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The Oncoming Storm

Post by apophis775 » 13 Dec 2015, 18:29

So for those unaware, here is this situation:
  • We are being targetted by the FFF because we are a "top server". They seek to use us as an example of a server that will either "cave" or as a cautionary tale.
  • I have negotiated a "truce". In a few days, someone will create a discussion topic about adding Tajarn or other furry races to CM as playable races. We will keep this discussion troll and grief free, and as respectful as possible. The goal will be to see if our community actually feels like Furry races should be added. The purpose of this is twofold:
    • This will hopefully show the FFF that they don't need to use violent griefing tactics in order to be taken seriously. Hopefully, they will give us the same respect we are giving them if the decision is made against them.
    • This will give me time. As many of you know, I am former Military Intelligence and we have a few staff that are former law enforcement and military. I have sent messages to some of my friends who are working in law enforcement and the government and I'm waiting replies. In case talks break down.
  • I fully expect the community to be against it, and I'm HOPING that they give us the respect and consideration we are giving them and move on and not continue to harass us. In case that fails, I am preparing defenses. I am not going to go into details, but I'm installing software to protect us on the VPS and alerted out hosting service to the threat.
  • I expect that we are going to have to weather a MASSIVE shitstorm. While I am taking precautions, there are always ways around. For every person who finds a way to prevent someone from doing something, 5 more find ways around it.
As a result, here are the actions I am currently taking for our defenses:

1. I am going to enable a time-lock on roles with access to explosives
2. I am working on an anti-spam automatic mute system for chat. basically, if the same phrase is broadcast more than 3 times or if more than 2 messages are sent in under a second, it will automaically mute the person from everything except ahelps (to prevent false positives)
3. I am going to adjust the rockets so they no longer function on the Sulaco at all, same with grenade launchers.
4. I am going to have process air automatically disable at the start of round, and remain disabled for the first 30 minutes of each round.
5. We have the "Multi-keyer" super-thead. ANYONE who think is multikeying to grief, put their name into that thread. This is a KEY part of our defense. If I am able to get enough IPs, I can correlate which VPN service they are using, and block that entire service.
6. They "claim" they have sleeper agents in several servers and working as mods and admin almost everywhere. We are going to lock our shit down. There will be an activity check soon and everyone will have 72 hours to reply to be removed from staff.


Actions YOU can take, and precautions you MUST take:
1. Adjust your password for the forums to be more secure. At least: 1 capital, 1 lower-case, 1 special character, 1 number and 8 characters long. I'm going to be being brute-force testing passwords for everyone sometime soon. If I can break your password, so can a hacker.
2. If someone breaches on the Sulaco or as grief, use Debug - Kill Air This verb *should* be usable by all levels.
3. I'm adding 2 new verbs, Fix Breach Floor and Fix Breach Wall. ALWAYS use floor first, then use wall on top of it. As a bonus, the turf will automatically generate air to repressurize the area.
4. If the FFF attack and start spamming, IMMEDIATLY turn off joining under the server controls. This will limit their ability to get back in while minimizing game impact. After about 10 or so minutes, turn joining back on. And repeat as necessary.
5. Tell them if this wish to negotiate or discuss demands, to contact [email protected], ColonialMarines the Byond key, or Apophis775 the Byond key. Noone other than myself, Skinner, and Rahlzel are authorized to negotiate any terms on behalf of CM.



We can take a unified stance and minimize the effects of their violent and cowardly actions, but we must be a UNITED FRONT and we must all WORK TOGETHER. This means, that we need admins to spend more time on the server and monitoring skype so they can be called quickly. You should all know how to contact me pretty much at any time of the day by now using: Skype, Steam, Byond, etc.

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Re: The Oncoming Storm

Post by Feweh » 13 Dec 2015, 18:35

Serious question, what the hell is FFF and why is this group so concerned with SS13?

Im not understanding the grand scheme of this other than to grief and troll.

Also suggestion, give Mods the ability to build walls. Probably help for any potential griefing.

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Post by NoShamNoWow » 13 Dec 2015, 18:37

Alright on the whole take on this FFF wanting Tajarans or "Furries" in game, I personally would not like this. CM is based off of the alien franchise and we try to stay lore friendly, and keep immersion good. It should also be known that there will be players that blatantly griefing another player simply for having the race that is Furry-related.
Its a bad decision whole if we implement this in game. There will be hate, salt, and all sorts thrown around about this.
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Re: The Oncoming Storm

Post by NoShamNoWow » 13 Dec 2015, 18:39

Feweh wrote:Serious question, what the hell is FFF and why is this group so concerned with SS13?

Im not understanding the grand scheme of this other than to grief and troll.

Also suggestion, give Mods the ability to build walls. Probably help for any potential griefing.
"FFF" Is called the "Furry Freedom Force". They are going around trolling servers and demanding furry races are put in the game. I don't get it, if you want furry races, just hop on paradise or something.
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Re: The Oncoming Storm

Post by HalfdeadKiller » 13 Dec 2015, 18:47

Any idea when uh, the activity thread will pop up?

Edit: Nevermind. I'm like, not fully awake. I'll just check new posts and stuff.

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Re: The Oncoming Storm

Post by Rahlzel » 13 Dec 2015, 18:51

What the fuck? You're actually taking this stupid shit seriously? This is one kid throwing out threats for attention. Playing his game is the same as encouraging it. Because you didn't ignore him, now we're a legitimate target that he gets to say "Hey, look who I affected!" to his imaginary friend.

Ignore him. Don't apologize. Don't say, 'Hey, I decided not to post that topic..'. Block him from everything and move on. If you're going to cater to these obscene idiots, then get prepared to throw money at him, because it doesn't stop. You don't deal with a sociopath by appeasing them. You cut their throats and be done with it.

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Post by coroneljones » 13 Dec 2015, 19:06

NoShamNoWow wrote: "FFF" Is called the "Furry Freedom Force". They are going around trolling servers and demanding furry races are put in the game. I don't get it, if you want furry races, just hop on paradise or something.
They actually targeted paradise i belive


Its actually quite moronic since paradise has alot of furry races
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Post by Westhybrid » 13 Dec 2015, 19:07

coroneljones wrote: They actually targeted paradise i belive


Its actually quite moronic since paradise has alot of furry races
They hit Paradise and Hippie, and the guy they're working with is allegedly the one who caused a lot of trouble for Yogs.
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Re: The Oncoming Storm

Post by Feweh » 13 Dec 2015, 19:25

I cant believe this is a serious thing.

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Post by NoShamNoWow » 13 Dec 2015, 19:46

Westhybrid wrote: They hit Paradise and Hippie, and the guy they're working with is allegedly the one who caused a lot of trouble for Yogs.
Seeing that it seems they also hit paradise and hippie, it just means these people are not really furries then, they are just a bunch of people wanting attention and are just using some fandom to give it a bad name. Seriously though, Raz is right. We should just "Ignore them" really and move on. Its not like they can keep this up forever.
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Post by Adjective » 13 Dec 2015, 19:58

I'm in favor of putting Tajarn gibs in the cryodorm to send them a message. But that's probably just me, it leaves a bad taste in my mouth when we give into the demands of less than civilized individuals.

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Post by Jack McIntyre » 13 Dec 2015, 20:18

Agreed with Vrai or we could make the xenos furries and just gun them down or have them in, but allow marines to kill them on sight, and just let them kill them on sight in cyro.

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Post by HalfdeadKiller » 13 Dec 2015, 20:54

I think it is less about actually wanting furries, and more about rallying behind the furry image, to troll. From what I understand, actual furries from the furry community, wouldn't do this. If these people -are- furries, then they are a small minority of that community.

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Post by Kyrac » 13 Dec 2015, 21:07

This is just stupid, it's childish that they'd actually consider going to such measures to prove a point.

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Post by Lostmixup » 13 Dec 2015, 21:46

Rahlzel wrote:What the fuck? You're actually taking this stupid shit seriously? This is one kid throwing out threats for attention. Playing his game is the same as encouraging it. Because you didn't ignore him, now we're a legitimate target that he gets to say "Hey, look who I affected!" to his imaginary friend.

Ignore him. Don't apologize. Don't say, 'Hey, I decided not to post that topic..'. Block him from everything and move on. If you're going to cater to these obscene idiots, then get prepared to throw money at him, because it doesn't stop. You don't deal with a sociopath by appeasing them. You cut their throats and be done with it.
We're mainly only complying because these assholes hack servers and such, and unfortunately at the current time the hacking they're doing is a little past apup's level. It's also not just like one person, it's like a small group of people as far as I know that just mass grief servers and shit.
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Re: The Oncoming Storm

Post by Caryl » 13 Dec 2015, 21:57

S-s-s-s-sleeper agents?!?! *Stares at TR-BlackDragon*

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Post by Rahlzel » 13 Dec 2015, 22:35

Doesn't matter if they're a group of 1 or 100. There will always be hackers, haters, and DDoSers. The moment you identify that they're anything more than attention-hungry children, they win.

"The oncoming storm." Psh. Compared to what will happen if we acknowledge them, any "storm" they blow at us will feel like a fart in the wind. The only thing we NEED to do is ignore them and deal with consequences of doing so. We treat them like any other pathetic fuckwads, because that's what they are. The alternative, which is what we're considering now, WILL cause a storm that will affect us and other server hosts. It won't stop with an inane vote topic. And once you get on that wagon it doesn't stop until it crashes.

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Post by Minijar » 14 Dec 2015, 02:46

I have to agree on rahlz on this one, by even publicly acknowledging them we're giving them the attention they crave. Simply set up defences and brace for whatever it is they think they can do.

Also as others have stated, just like Isis who claim to be Muslim, these people are not furries and believe me I'd know (hint hint) they're using the image of furry to troll and then build hate torwards the fandom. It has nothing to do with us not having furry races. They simply want to induce further hatred towards a group they disagree with, by doing anything they propose we are inadvertently supporting this.

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Post by Ordukai » 14 Dec 2015, 03:45

On the one hand, acknowledging would give them some of what they want, IE attention. On the other hand, straight up ignoring the fact that they exist isn't such a good idea. I'd rather we take preemptive measures against them, because no matter how stupid their cause is if they have the ability to damage the server or the player's enjoyable experience, they should be taken seriously.

We can afford to lose on the "Acknowledge them as a problem" ground if it lets us win on the "Actually dealing with the problem" ground, attention-hungry children or no. I have no doubt that the existence of a poll will not dissuade them from their stupidity in the slightest. If it loses, they continue as planned. If it wins, they claim victory. According to Apop, whether the poll succeeds or not, he is making good use of the time the delay gives us, which is good enough reason to have the poll in my books.

And why not just take this as an opportunity to up security on the server/forum anyways. I'm not 100% certain how having the air disabled for the first 30 minutes of the round would help, though. Wouldn't that just make the eventual chaos all the more potent because it all happens at once? A plasma canister here, a breach there. Suddenly, 30 minutes in, fire and vacuum, like a terrible vortex of grief springs up everywhere. Yes? No?
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Post by Feweh » 14 Dec 2015, 13:23

Ordukai wrote:On the one hand, acknowledging would give them some of what they want, IE attention. On the other hand, straight up ignoring the fact that they exist isn't such a good idea. I'd rather we take preemptive measures against them, because no matter how stupid their cause is if they have the ability to damage the server or the player's enjoyable experience, they should be taken seriously.

We can afford to lose on the "Acknowledge them as a problem" ground if it lets us win on the "Actually dealing with the problem" ground, attention-hungry children or no. I have no doubt that the existence of a poll will not dissuade them from their stupidity in the slightest. If it loses, they continue as planned. If it wins, they claim victory. According to Apop, whether the poll succeeds or not, he is making good use of the time the delay gives us, which is good enough reason to have the poll in my books.

And why not just take this as an opportunity to up security on the server/forum anyways. I'm not 100% certain how having the air disabled for the first 30 minutes of the round would help, though. Wouldn't that just make the eventual chaos all the more potent because it all happens at once? A plasma canister here, a breach there. Suddenly, 30 minutes in, fire and vacuum, like a terrible vortex of grief springs up everywhere. Yes? No?
Im in agreeance with Ord here. Might as well take delayed chance that this a serious issue and up our own defenses. All we have to lose is our pride really, which is something you should always sacrifice for the betterment.

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Post by TR-BlackDragon » 14 Dec 2015, 22:55

Really caryl lol anyway I'll have my laptop with me at work tomorrow so if anyone needs me just skype me

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