Alien: Covenant.

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Re: Alien: Covenant.

Post by Crab_Spider » 04 Jun 2017, 10:32

So I came up with a bit of a theory:

-The Neomorphs were failed experiments because Engineer was too rapid as a catalyst. Evidence? Well there's a big correlation between your time of development, and your qualities. While typical xenomorphs are smart, powerful, and very proficient in what they do, the neomorphs were dollar store versions of that; they had power, but they didn't have what was necessary for them to continue. They were Runners without a Queen/Drone. Notice how in Alien 3 the sole Runner was going off of instinct rather than strategy? It came from a dog, and dogs (pretty much any other non-sapient animal on Earth, arguably) are the way they are because of many generations of natural selection (from wolves) and many years of artificial selection, they have a pre-determined intelligence based entirely on their genetic code; instincts.

The Runner, like the Neomorphs, was born fully developed, but it got to safety and molted in an isolated location. It wasn't capable of going into combat, but the neomorphs were up and kicking in a span of EIGHT MINUTES. What does that have to do with anything? Well remember what Engineer did to its hosts — it assimilated DNA, while also changing the wiring of your brain. You were at a genetic level, a killing machine. But every host the Engineer infected, was pretty mindless. Can someone debunk this?
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Re: Alien: Covenant.

Post by DrPng » 04 Jun 2017, 22:15

After just recently seeing the movie and reading the wiki for a bit more information, what I thought at the time was that these "Neomorphs" as you say, are highly agressive and based purely off of instinct. The problem with them, however, is that their eggs spawn from the black goo or liquid and how that liquid is produced is unknown. So it's entirely feasible that they do not have the intent to expand. To the subject of how they are "mindless", I really don't know. Xenomorphs are pretty intelligent, I'd say to the intelligence of an ape with bee/ant like behaviors to it. In the move, xenomorphs eggs were supposedly created by David, that was what I saw at the time. So what I tend to believe is that those little eggs with the microscopic spores only had instructional capabilitie to wipe out, maybe the engineers were trying to completely destroy humans? Or maybe, looking at the wiki, they were created as a weapon against the Yautja to stop them. There is too many gaps and too little information at the time. This is all what I think, entirely opinion based.
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Re: Alien: Covenant.

Post by danmax67 » 06 Jun 2017, 19:25

Honestly, I thought the movie was okay.

But I'm waiting for another Colonial Marines movie, no I'm not joking either. I just want to see more muhreens in action, because I've always considered them the coolest kids in the series.

Or maybe a movie about the colony or space station falling apart, like, watching how things slowly unfold on the station, and the muhreens arrive and board the station/land on the colony and they get like booty blasted by the ayyliens. y'know, your average SS13 Xenomorph round.

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Re: Alien: Covenant.

Post by DrPng » 06 Jun 2017, 20:05

I'm really hoping for another AVP game or Colonial Marines game that is up to speed and AAA, high quality made.
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Re: Alien: Covenant.

Post by Crab_Spider » 03 Aug 2017, 06:49

It was awful. They expand on absolutely. Fucking. Nothing. Ridley Scott you are a talentless hack now, and I wish you could return to your roots, just as I wish I can direct my own films. You have us think through the entire film, and our thoughts are "this person is an idiot" and "but why?". I have nothing original to say, because 1) I'm too tired 2) most of the film was wasted potential 3) I can't think.
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Re: Alien: Covenant.

Post by xywenx00 » 08 Aug 2017, 21:51

I liked the Action and Atmosphere of the movie. It had great horror elements. The Story was eh, but overall I liked the movie.
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Re: Alien: Covenant.

Post by Wubs4Scrubs » 04 Sep 2017, 16:35

I liked the movie, it had the Prometheus problem where it raised a lot of questions that we're probably not going to get answers to. So as a tie in movie with the aliens franchise I didn't like it, but as an action thriller/horror movie I thought it was pretty great. The first encounter scene where the alien "bursts" out the dude's back while they're in quarantine had my heart rate going. I know for a fact when that scene happened I had my hands over my face like a teenage girl during one of the conjuring movies.
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Re: Alien: Covenant.

Post by solidfury7 » 04 Sep 2017, 16:45

I really liked the rehash. I totally thought the film was going a different direction.

overall, it played a little too safe but I enjoyed it.
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Re: Alien: Covenant.

Post by immaspaceninja » 05 Sep 2017, 10:46

>Engineer's ship got xenos engraved on it's doors

>Covenant is telling us that David was the one who created them

So yeah, the movie looks pretty, but it's characters are dumb and not memorable to me.
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Re: Alien: Covenant.

Post by Wubs4Scrubs » 05 Sep 2017, 10:54

immaspaceninja wrote:
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>Engineer's ship got xenos engraved on it's doors

>Covenant is telling us that David was the one who created them

So yeah, the movie looks pretty, but it's characters are dumb and not memorable to me.
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Re: Alien: Covenant.

Post by NescauComToddy » 21 Sep 2017, 17:23

The Engineers have created black goo, which eventually makes a living being mutate into a specific type of xenomorph. David only perfected this biological weapon with the structure of a human that would be Shawn's. In short, it was not David who created the xenomorph itself.
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Re: Alien: Covenant.

Post by Tidomann » 24 Sep 2017, 07:37

Read Fire and Stone comic series.

Apparently does a better job than the movies as tying in the engineers to the xeno universe than the movies did.

Black goo acts more as an accelerant for biological change. If xenomorph are the peak of biological adaptation for survival, then it makes sense that anything under the effects of the accelerant becomes xeno-like

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Re: Alien: Covenant.

Post by Wubs4Scrubs » 24 Sep 2017, 09:29

Tidomann wrote:
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Read Fire and Stone comic series.

Apparently does a better job than the movies as tying in the engineers to the xeno universe than the movies did.

Black goo acts more as an accelerant for biological change. If xenomorph are the peak of biological adaptation for survival, then it makes sense that anything under the effects of the accelerant becomes xeno-like
But like, sometimes it just acts as a weapon that melts people, in Prometheus it was used to apparently create life but it was already ingested by an engineer. Black goo memes are complicated ones.
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