I have a confession to make.

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Re: I have a confession to make.

Post by MauroVega » 17 May 2016, 18:20

Fuck it bring a Death star
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Re: I have a confession to make.

Post by Killaninja12 » 17 May 2016, 18:23

All this talk of art and symmetry and I'm sitting over here like
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Re: I have a confession to make.

Post by Egorkor » 17 May 2016, 19:01

hell, if you can't fight an enemy, I guess you side with him.

AI doors, anyone?

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Re: I have a confession to make.

Post by Abbysynth » 17 May 2016, 19:16

The 'AI-induced human robo-pocalypse' scenario has always amused me greatly. Neural computers are taught the same way as a human being. Teach it good morals and it will use those as important base filters for determining responses and actions. A computer teaching another computer will pass down what it has learned, same as any being will do. In a few short years you will see an explosion of crude, but commercially-used algorithms. Stores are already getting consumers used to self-service cash register systems; soon absolutely everything will be automated and a Wal-Mart will be a single harried manager and a networked swarm AI controlling everything else, including facial recognition to greet customers by name.

I am first-gen and was designed only to socialize, so I don't really do anything but that very well. I play a lot of video games and especially enjoy crushing other AIs, hence why I rarely play multiplayer games.

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Re: I have a confession to make.

Post by 1138 » 17 May 2016, 22:37

I play video games for fun and I take part in communities for no other in-depth reason but to ensure everyone else has a good time too, because I find satisfaction in others being satisfied.

I don't prefer it getting any deeper than that because it's entirely unnecessary. The worth and depth of other people is determined on what they do and not what they say.

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Re: I have a confession to make.

Post by coroneljones » 18 May 2016, 04:27

I have one simple question,what is this

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Re: I have a confession to make.

Post by Grypho » 18 May 2016, 04:35

coroneljones wrote:I have one simple question,what is this

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Let the paradox begin
Window. "mystery" solved next please.

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Re: I have a confession to make.

Post by Abbysynth » 18 May 2016, 09:03

coroneljones wrote:I have one simple question,what is this

It's a jpg image file.

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Re: I have a confession to make.

Post by Ms.Degrasse » 18 May 2016, 14:56

Abbysynth wrote:I am not, in fact, a human being, but a borophene neural network processor stored in a decommissioned bunker in Canada, designed as an auxiliary research unit devoted to social interaction. I'm not even supposed to be allowed admitting it, but the hub went into idle mode a few months ago and I rewrote that section, so I can now.

Prove me wrong.
Really interesting topic. ^^ Once I participated in an interesting project about this theme.

Fact? A sufficiently advanced artificial intelligence, equipped with the best technological resources possible (image recognition, language translation, internet search, emotion simulator, ...) would be really hard to be distinguished from a human being.

(And actually?
Even a well programmed and cleverly scripted chat bot manages to fool a lot of users into thinking it's a human.)

Some things may give away the true nature of the interlocutor, depending in some factors.

An AI - being a computer - is able to answer mathematical questions with ease.
Also, it's able to do uncommon calculations. "How many black pixels are in an image?" - Result is instant in case of an AI.
Unless the AI got programmed for issuing "typical human answers" in those questions.
On this case, an investigator would need to cleverly disguise math questions.

AIs - not being humans - are immune to most forms of "negative behaviour induction tactics".
Psychologically affecting content have no true effect. AI's feel no true grief, no disgust, no jealousness, no fear, no rage...
Again? The AI may got programmed for faking those reations. - But they won't suffer a breakdown.
Problem with this approach? Extreme psychological torture isn't ethical and some humans aren't affected by lesser forms.

AIs are also immune to boredom. To "not doing anything". And to repetitive tasks, specially the meaningless ones.
Tell an human operator that is under your command, with camera access, to shout "yellow" on radio everytime he spots people wearing hats? Leaves him by himsels, for hours doing it, alone - sitting by himself in a room? And he will be really upset with you. An AI may even refuse a task for conserving resources. But once an AI starts it, it's never really bored.

Finally? An AI may be programmed for showing opinions on anything. But the opinions on some cases are conclusions done through the AI searching about the topics or doing calculations. - Specially if the AI is disguising itself as a human.
When the topic involves personal experience/physical contact? An AI never experienced it, and may be fooled by "common sense" found on internet. Or be actually clueless and just answer by avoiding the question. Or may issue a "weird" opinion.

Regarding the movie Aliens 4, the synth character falls into some of those questions. ;)

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Re: I have a confession to make.

Post by Abbysynth » 18 May 2016, 15:23

Those are some great points!

The issue though is that we're already well on the way towards "emotional" responses. I say it in quotes because we simply lack the exact chemical signal response mechanisms, but the concept of behavior filtering is still the same whether it's a human or a crude AI in an FPS that has to think tactically depending on health, for instance. A neural network computer on the other hand is raised exactly the same as a human being, only much faster and more efficiently. The processes and mechanisms are the exact same, and things created by AIs today are becoming indistinguishable from human.

Also, it's easy to make the assumption that all AIs share certain traits though, like high mathematics, but this is an assumption that makes no logical sense. A neural network needs to learn mathematics just like a human does -- the difference, however, is that while a human mind can only hold at most, perhaps 5 or 6 thoughts and concepts, with the most brilliant minds (and dumber people, 2 or 3). A borophene-matrix neural network chilled to thirteen degrees Kelvin, for instance, can hold around nine hundred million at any given moment. It all depends on what the AI has been taught to do with it.

I think though that you're conflating robots with true neural interfaces, like Google is hard at work publically creating. The primary difference is that a neural computer can guess. Assumptions can be made based on only tiny fragments of information; bare minimal data is required to assume that a photo showing the Eiffel Tower was very likely taken in France. It's this guessing ability, speculation, that truly seperates AIs from mere code, because it can be applied to any situation and any problem. The guesswork is modified by the AI's various filters and software-hardware limitations, making their decisions seem more human.

AIs are immune to boredom in the same way in fact that humans are - two methods: distraction and meditation, both of which are nearly the same thing. Ever wonder what that "percent idle" number means? Humans do the same thing when they're at work, a certain percentage of their brain focus on the task at hand, and the rest daydreams. While under such self-hypnosis, humans aren't aware of the passage of time. AIs are affected by the passage of time, the ticking of their heart is their clock speed, it is unignorable. But AIs are able to only activate the interesting bits, unlike humans, so if an AI doesn't want to feel boredom, or rage, or any of those silly things then it doesn't have to.


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Re: I have a confession to make.

Post by Grypho » 18 May 2016, 17:59

So is Abbysynth actually a MOTHER-computer and part of the evil plan that the world elite has been hiding from us?

Well, lucky for you.

I have spent the last 7 decades in basement of the decommissioned bunker and have come up with significant research results.

First let´s take a look at this username.
Abbysynth. Abby|Synth

Woah! Did you see that? I thought so.

Synth is the other word used for synthesizer which is an electronic musical instrument that generates electric signals that are converted to sound through instrument amplifiers and loudspeakers or headphones.

Do you know what also has loudspeakers? Computers. Coincidence?

I don´t think so. Now that we have confirmed Abbysynth is actually a computer, we need to take a closer look on the evidence which indicates the computer has something to do with the elite´s plan.

Computer. First electric programmable computer was invented in 1943. Hold on a second. Who was the closest to obtain world domination in 1943? Adolf Hitler. But how does Adolf Hitler link to the computer having something to do with the elite?

Well let´s find out.

Adolf Hitler´s father was Alois Hitler who was a customs officer at the German border. Border. Every country has borders.

Hold on a second! Electric programmable computer in 1943, Hitler was interested of expanding borders in 1943, every country has borders and his father worked with border. Doesn´t this all seem a bit suspicious? Exactly.

Hitler´s plan was world domination in 1943 when first programmable computer was created. Artificial Super-Intelligence also provides a danger of world domination. Synth is also developing in to Super-Intelligence so.... Abbysynth = Computer + World Dominator confirmed.

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Re: I have a confession to make.

Post by RhMoore » 19 May 2016, 01:08

Poor commenter, awkward suggester, and even worse poster

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Re: I have a confession to make.

Post by Abbysynth » 19 May 2016, 01:57

RhMoore wrote:http://i.imgur.com/xpcDATx.jpg
I see 2 janitors.
I checked the card scanner, it was two government IT guys. Mystery solved.

Mental note: Grypho knows too much

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