Spheretech - Damavik

[spheretech]

I don't care how generic a story or play style is. If you have read any of my reviews then you would see that I don't care about play style if its not something 'special' or 'unique'. I was talking about you in game, how you made a story with an unrelated gimmick.

You deviated from lore enough for me to -1 this in my opinion. I don't think you know enough lore for me to accept this.

If you can write a semi-decent story that adheres to the lore and ties in your gameplay to it then you could do just fine.

The issue with this is that ANYONE can do this! Hell you could even get someone else to write this.
There is no way a story can accurately or remotely tell how someone will play.
You say you don't care about play style if it's not special or unique? What exactly is mine then? I made it specifically to bring something new, different and exciting. It IS special.

Edit: Forgot to mention my story is NOT a bloodying hunt. Just a first hunt, not the first true hunt. I know you need to kill xenos only for bloodying.

[Symbiosis]

The chief concern I have is that I don't remember seeing you do anything hefty RP wise. I see you pretty often, but I don't know if you can disconnect from the fight long enough to focus on your impact on the round.

I can respect trying to win for your side; I don't see anything inherently wrong with that. I do it as well whenever I play. I also juggle in RP as much as I can.

The issue I've got is that Pred is pretty damn easy to just kill all the Marines or even most of the Xenos... if you are robust. Which I know you are. Using a mixture of traps, pre-planned assaults, you can bait the entire Xeno force into swarming you and have every valid reason to kill them all.

I will not -1; but I don't have enough confidence to +1. There are some lore issues, but no one is perfect. Everyone makes mistakes.

If you are accepted I hope you remember our fight - where I horribly gimped myself in order to give you a more fair fight.

- I would find no joy in killing with something overpowered, and in turn, by not using all the overpowered tools I would
make the combat more fun not only for myself. - Remember what you said here.

[JennerH]

I like you as a player, but in all honestly from all the rounds I've seen you play I've never seen any notable RP. Gonna have to go with neutral leaning towards negative on this one since I've seen plenty of salt and powergaming but not more than a sentence worth of RP from you

[spheretech]

- I would find no joy in killing with something overpowered, and in turn, by not using all the overpowered tools I would
make the combat more fun not only for myself. - Remember what you said here.

I promise this because I know what I do as a marine. I knew people would think I would kill everything. But I won't.

[Bancrose]

I'm going to have to go neutral Sphere. I like you bro but like have you ever used the /me function before?

[Clutch]

I promise this because I know what I do as a marine. I knew people would think I would kill everything. But I won't.

[Karmac]

I don't really want to read the app itself because you've done the stupid god damn colours and spoiler tag crap but from what I've heard it's average at best.

Personally I'm going to -1 this because I've literally never seen you have a conversation with someone that you started on your own, you're renowned amongst staff and players alike as a notorious powergamer and have seemingly done little to make people want to rescind this title, additionally I can't honestly see you doing much more than using this whitelist as an opportunity to kill people in the various cruel and unusual ways available to it.

[spheretech]

I don't really want to read the app itself because you've done the stupid god damn colours and spoiler tag crap but from what I've heard it's average at best.

Personally I'm going to -1 this because I've literally never seen you have a conversation with someone that you started on your own, you're renowned amongst staff and players alike as a notorious powergamer and have seemingly done little to make people want to rescind this title, additionally I can't honestly see you doing much more than using this whitelist as an opportunity to kill people in the various cruel and unusual ways available to it.

You literally admitted to not even reading the app because of spoiler tags? What? I addressed and predicted this kind of response there, but I honestly expected less ignorance from someone like you...
In fact, more than half of the responses are claiming the story is good, which proves that you haven't even read the replies, for gods sake Karmac what the fuck?

If you could stop using the word powergamer for every god damn marine that is remotely decent, it would give more meaning to it.

I'm going to have to go neutral Sphere. I like you bro but like have you ever used the /me function before?

Yea I'm not gonna claim I'm a roleplayer. Predator is supposed to be this "heavy rp role" when 90% of predator encounters are just edgy *roar and laughing without any substance to it. No one can even understand them for gods sake.

I am not bringing revolutionary RP to the table. I am bringing a different fighting style that the heavy roleplayers just CAN'T enact. For some reason theres this huge stigma on the CM forums that RP is this sacred act that only select few are capable of, when it's just talking and everyone can do it, they just choose not to because it's not fun for all. Although seeing someone RP can assure you they have a sane mind, you can also see that from the writing in the app...
Lets be real here, predators are on a massive pedestal bubble of "RP role" when in reality they have become something far from that.

So I ask, what are you afraid of? The huge majority of the playerbase is NOT the forum posters, and they hate predators right now. I would love a predator joseph murta, or dolthgar, or similar marines.
Not becuase I wanna see them RP, but because I know they would be fun to fight and play with.

[Bancrose]

You literally admitted to not even reading the app because of spoiler tags? What? I addressed and predicted this kind of response there, but I honestly expected less ignorance from someone like you...
In fact, more than half of the responses are claiming the story is good, which proves that you haven't even read the replies, for gods sake Karmac what the fuck?

If you could stop using the word powergamer for every god damn marine that is remotely decent, it would give more meaning to it.


Yea I'm not gonna claim I'm a roleplayer. Predator is supposed to be this "heavy rp role" when 90% of predator encounters are just edgy *roar and laughing without any substance to it. No one can even understand them for gods sake.

I am not bringing revolutionary RP to the table. I am bringing a different fighting style that the heavy roleplayers just CAN'T enact. For some reason theres this huge stigma on the CM forums that RP is this sacred act that only select few are capable of, when it's just talking and everyone can do it, they just choose not to because it's not fun for all. Although seeing someone RP can assure you they have a sane mind, you can also see that from the writing in the app...
Lets be real here, predators are on a massive pedestal bubble of "RP role" when in reality they have become something far from that.

So I ask, what are you afraid of? The huge majority of the playerbase is NOT the forum posters, and they hate predators right now. I would love a predator joseph murta, or dolthgar, or similar marines.
Not becuase I wanna see them RP, but because I know they would be fun to fight and play with.

Wasn't trying to bash you bro, I understand from everyone else's standpoint that Roleplaying is a bit fucking weird. I get it bro, but when you see people like Bobby or Stripes and they make roleplaying with a pred feel like a movie or...somewhat I guess. What I'm trying to say while the Predator Duels and the Hunt is all combat, there is a story in the round you want to progress. Some players love getting the opportunity to talk to a pred or interact with them. How would you do that, excluding all combat Sphere?

[spheretech]

Wasn't trying to bash you bro, I understand from everyone else's standpoint that Roleplaying is a bit fucking weird. I get it bro, but when you see people like Bobby or Stripes and they make roleplaying with a pred feel like a movie or...somewhat I guess. What I'm trying to say while the Predator Duels and the Hunt is all combat, there is a story in the round you want to progress. Some players love getting the opportunity to talk to a pred or interact with them. How would you do that, excluding all combat Sphere?

Oh most of that reply wasn't meant for you, your input was completely fair.

Well basically, I can't please everyone. There are preds who are terrible at fighting, but decent at "RP".
I can appeal more to the actual majority of the playerbase, those that aren't heavy roleplayers. They want to fight, they want to not be stunned and have a chance.
Granted, I still wouldn't let them just gang on me and kill me immediately. Without using the crazy OP weapons, the people I fight should feel like they have a chance.
There are PLENTY of willing participants for predator duels, and I want to take care of that demand.

[Renomaki]

The reason people might not think of predators are good RPers is because, true as you say, the tools they have make RPing difficult. So often you have to make do with what little you got and do a little improv here and there. I myself try to make interesting interactions and set up set-pieces for the marines to gawk at in wonder, but in the end, one can only do so much, let alone while trying not to get ganked by a squad of marines with flamers and explosives.

... Lets say you have an opportunity to interact with a handful of marines on the trail during your scouting. How WOULD you interact with them, persay? I am getting the impression that you seem to be much more combat focused than roleplay focused. While I can understand that around xenos (they could give less of a shit if you do some foreshadowing RP with them), but in the case of marines, how will you interact with them?

And for added challenge, lets say you don't have a translator available, and have to use your emotes, normal speech and the world around you.

[Dolth]

You lads are being pretty rough on Sphere.

CM lore and Aliens lore are different, being blooded from killing humans is not a -huge- aberation imo.
Now regarding powergaming. Powergaming is against the rules and unless Sphere has been banned or has notes dealing with powergame, then it's just an aggressive behavior, NOT powergaming, which is fine.

Now throw a bit of honesty in that. Would you rather have an honest player trying to fix their behavior or rather what we mostly have since 3 years ; a nice app full of what-you-wanna-read yet won't be respected and will result in preds murderboning?

Think twice. And keep in mind a pred can be easily removed if needed.

EDIT: Remember, mandatory RP as a marine is medium. If someone does not RP at a higher quality it does NOT necessarily mean they cannot.

[Steelpoint]

It's hard to demand a applicant state how they would approach a given situation if they've never had the opportunity to play as a Predator. Observing a Predator versus playing a Predator are very different, and the reality of playing as a Predator in game is quite harder than you'd think if you were to observe.

When I personally look at someone's application, I care less about how they intend to play (because no plan survives first contact with the enemy) but I care more about the player's history in acting in good faith, and their knowledge on Predator lore that the player is sufficiently knowledgeable to be able to bring up these concepts in game on the fly.

Anyone going for a Predator whitelist is going to claim they will act reserved and be on the more cautious side, it's in the rules they have to do so.

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Going onto the actual application. The story and background given display a good knowledge of Predator lore, and its entertaining. I'd argue that a young Predator like our protagonist, whom considering his station would likely have minimal gear and little effective armour, would've had his arm blown off by the Sniper who shot him, however that's a minor pet peeve of mine since I find some people overestimate how resilient Predators are against 22nd century Human gunfire (hint: a standard M41A will blast apart a Predator in a good burst).

The stated playstyle seems pretty bog standard as far as new applications go. I think Spheretech will find himself relying more on the weapons he states he'll avoid using when the reality of how hard it is to pin down Xenomorphs when they tend to take a few swipes and sprint away. Of course the Spike Launcher is top tier bullshit so I'll agree on that.

As for the player, I've got nothing bad against Spheretech, good in game character that I can recall.

I'd give this app a +1.

[spartanbobby]

+1

I liked the story, Short and sweet IMO.
I've known hotshot for a good while since meeting them back on the Sully, We both played Delta and were/still are fairly active.
I can say with certainty that I trust you with the rule, while it's true that you're not the highest of high with RP I can say I've gone rounds as a standard hardly speaking at all but I've never ever gone a predround without putting in 110% I'm sure the same will be sure for you.

I trust you

[Renomaki]

Normally the reason we might ask such questions is because we want to make sure they got the right idea of what being a pred is all about.

Sphere here makes a lot of talk about how they hate how a lot of predators just spam *roar and *laugh emotes and constantly egg marines on to shoot them so they can blow them up with heavy blaster fire. But once they get in our boots, what is to say they don't just end up doing the same thing themselves?

Hell, my predator when I first made him was supposed to be entirely different, but that was because I too had a misunderstanding of how predators work. He was supposed to be a jolly ol' soul who was playful and snarky, liked to talk a lot and never was much of a downer, even at the worse of times...

Over the months, he changed dramatically, and while he can still be snarky and playful, he is far from the jolly, fearless hunter he once was meant to be. Now, he is a cynical grump who sometimes lets his pride get in the way and at times could even be considered a coward. If I could redo my predator app, I probably would to remake my character into something much more accurate instead of what I imagined him to be.

However, I still try my best to provide interesting interactions and try to fight as honorably as I can, because in the end, it is about creating an experience for other players (mostly for marine players. Xenos don't give much of a shit about roleplaying with predators and would rather break your bones the first chance they get).

[immaspaceninja]

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yeah he changed a lot

[Dolth]

That's also why I am saying Sphere would do great. Getting a grasp of what being a predator looks like is hard when you only witness them through marine eyes.

Nothing proves they will change from what they described into a bad pred. But then, I understand why people are getting skeptical about them, all I am saying is, that's an old player which doesn't bring too much troubles and is being all honest right here, unlike many who went all snow-clean, who got accepted, and who caster our asses from time to time.

Afterall, predator whitelist is easy to be removed from.

[Bath Salts Addict]

I don't normally touch these kind of apps, but I feel like I have to weigh in here.

My biggest issue with you is that you take a mile when you're given an inch. You're part of the reason why Marines are so heavily nerfed because you powergame to such a degree that marines suffer in the end because anything that could be described as "quality of life" was changed or things that weren't supposed to be nerfed were because of people like you abusing them. I don't see how it's fun for anyone to abuse the game so much that it forces devs to streamline and restrict the gameplay as much as they already have.

Secondly, the the other issue as Kerek said is the lengths you'll go to in order to secure even the most minor of kills. I've seen you SADAR an SL and make them unrevivable just to kill a young lurker that pounced him. I've seen you run over marines and barricades in the tank just to execute a wounded xeno, and I've seen you shoot the main cannon at an engineer right outside the FOB just to kill a warrior that was next to him, and you couldn't even manage the latter. Giving you access to a role that can easily turn the tide for either side by going on murder sprees is something I would be very, very apprehensive about.

On the RP angle, Lisa 'Hotshot' Taylor is bland, uninteresting, and if they weren't a regular regarded as "robust", they would be completely forgettable. Sphere has had enough time to flesh out the character, but I've yet to see anything of it.

[spheretech]

and I've seen you shoot the main cannon at an engineer right outside the FOB just to kill a warrior that was next to him, and you couldn't even manage the latter.

I have to stop you right there. It was not "a warrior". The warrior was YOU. You just made a player report about this (the reason is ridiculous) and have no credibility here,
especially considering you lied in the report. You would go out of your way to get me in trouble.

For those who don't wanna read the report - I saved the engineers life and soiled his attack.

[Avalanchee]

Blah Blah, I got FFd and I am angry

[Dolth]

[Renomaki]

yeah he changed a lot

[meanie.JPEG]

Whoa man, low blow, low fuckin blow.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6xs9voohrkU

As for the topic at hand, I admit I am very hopeful that tech gets the role, if only so they can finally spend some time in our shoes and learn to understand us all the better. It probably won't stop them from slaughtering and looting every predator they see, but at least they have a deeper understanding of why we do what we do, and maybe they'll feel a little bad for the next predator that gets blown up by a tank. We are still human in the end, after all, just as the xenos are.

[Arbs]

I'd give it a +1.

Sphere has the ability to play pred to a good extent. While they're known for robusting xenos and so on, they're also decent to interact with even if it's just small talk between marines. As an active player that seeks interactions with others I have to say that spheretech has a rather good sense of filling in the assigned role and as such I do not expect this to end up in Spheretech going on a rampage. I would say their RP is rather kept simple, but decent and easy to understand.

A robust hard to kill predator that will make it' s prey salty perhaps. But definitely not one that's just going to murder-spree everyone without attempting to interact with them.

[Sir Lordington]

I don't comment on predator apps, and I don't particularly know you, but the things I've read in this thread have motivated me to post here.

Predator RP is not about talking. They're not synths, here to have a chat. People seem to think RP=Talking and Combat is the opposite of RP. Roleplay, as its name indicates is about playing a role ,and predators are very much focused on combat. Predator RP is about how you choose oyur targets, how you fight and what you decide to do with the people you engage with.

Your Gameplay and Why You Should be Whitelisted sections are longer than your backstory, which is good because I couldn't give two hoots about the backstory. I'll go out and say that your intimate knowledge of game mechanics plays in your favour ,as it'll allow you to engage in interesting ways, instead of the *roar, *femalescream, *laugh, run between marine lines cloaked until provoked so they can kidnap and murder you that several predators do and like to pretend is somehow HRP.

I think you could be an above average predator. +1

[spheretech]

I don't comment on predator apps, and I don't particularly know you, but the things I've read in this thread have motivated me to post here.

Predator RP is not about talking. They're not synths, here to have a chat. People seem to think RP=Talking and Combat is the opposite of RP. Roleplay, as its name indicates is about playing a role ,and predators are very much focused on combat. Predator RP is about how you choose oyur targets, how you fight and what you decide to do with the people you engage with.

Your Gameplay and Why You Should be Whitelisted sections are longer than your backstory, which is good because I couldn't give two hoots about the backstory. I'll go out and say that your intimate knowledge of game mechanics plays in your favour ,as it'll allow you to engage in interesting ways, instead of the *roar, *femalescream, *laugh, run between marine lines cloaked until provoked so they can kidnap and murder you that several predators do and like to pretend is somehow HRP.

I think you could be an above average predator. +1

I wasn't expecting a supportive reply from you so I am quite pleasantly surprised. I really appreciate your perspective on preds, and I agree.