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L'ulij-bpe Gry'sui-bpe (Mad Stampede) Pred App

Post by Marcus Jackson » 05 Feb 2017, 20:15

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Marine Name (so we know who you are, if you play alien mostly, state that here):

Marcus Jackson, though I do play Xeno pretty often.

Name of the character you want whitelisted (The name your predator will use. This must match your in-game predator name):

L'ulij-bpe Gry'sui-bpe

Are you familiar with the Predator Code Of Honor?

Absolutely, I wouldn't even allow myself to apply without reading first.

Character background (A very BRIEF description of your predators background):

L'ulij-bpe (Or simply "Mad" if you prefer) was always a strange one, while he always listened to his elders and always did as he was told, he could usually be found in the middle of trouble. The pup seemed to find honest enjoyment in extreme dangers, combat against a superior opponent or even multiple foes, and was perfectly fine with being beaten into the dirt only to spring back up moments later, ready for another go. Many did not realise how deep this unending madness delved until one fateful day in his Unblooded youth when his younger siblings were being harassed by new Blooded warriors in the local kehrite for "not being worthy of entrance"... this was an unfortunate mistake on their part as L'ulij-bpe did not take kindly to such an insult and immediately challenged the largest of the opposing group. His opponent was at least two heads taller than himself but he found such a thing only excited him more, and while the battle of fists seemed out of his favor at first, L'ulij-bpe simply kept jumping back up after being knocked to the ground no matter the force and energy behind the blows.

When the large bully had realised that the entire spar was slowly slipping from his grasp he began to panic, and in a single act of cowardice his fingers gripped the handle of his knife, considering unsheathing it just to get the "pauk-de h'ulij-bpe (crazy fucker)" away from him for a moment. This unfortunately set off L'ulij-bpe into a rage, and like his namesake, tackled his opponent with all the veracity his body and soul could muster. By this point the bully was on his back, heavy punches rained across his face, and he was now sufficiently exhausted from knocking L'ulij-bpe to the ground over and over, so he decided to unsheathe his knife and stab at L'ulij-bpe's side to hopefully kill the younger fighter, or at the very least get him off.

The repeated stabbing actually had the opposite effect, so L'ulij-bpe gripped the bully's head between his hands and began trying to tattoo the ground with the back of the warrior's brain... the stabbing had stopped long ago, but L'ulij-bpe kept slamming what could scarcely be called a head anymore into the ground, for almost an entire minute after the bully stopped moving. By the time more people had arrived either to watch or break it up the cowardly-bully was long dead, but L'ulij-bpe kept slamming what remained of his skull into the ground while brain and bits of face oozed between his fingers, until finally someone pulled the boy off.

While many thought it best for him to be put down, like a rabid pet is sometime needed to be, several elders had seen the determination, moderate skill, and almost beast-like ferocity and the results there of... and decided he should be assigned to his first hunt. But only time will tell if he can prove that his abilities weren't just a one-time-fluke.

How do you intend to play your predator (as in, describe HOW you will act/play your predator. This will weigh HEAVILY and frequently breaking from this MAY result in removal)?

I will always follow orders to the letter, and will RP the inexperienced-but-eager-to-please-student. I play SL enough as the gruff and seasoned-veteran to want to try something different.

I will closely follow the Honor Code, as recently I've seen Preds attack unconscious marines, and several times slaughter unarmed survivors. Generally I will try to aim for T2's and upward, and unwounded-Specialists, though if an SL or grunt impress me, and if they accept, I will duel them too. I also like predators that prefer melee as usually I get sniped and never actually see them, so I wish to be one of the exceptions to that. I will also frequently rush groups of marines un-cloaked to panic them, as it's a tactic I don't see used often, also watching them freakout is hilarious. >:D

Why should we whitelist you?

While I've seen great Pred players, I've also seen some pretty bad ones. Attacking Marines that are obviously not even combat-capable, or even just sniping people from the shadows, despite them being worthy, is one of the things I want to help change. Also I've had some really great and unique interactions with some great Preds, and I want to be able do that for other people both Noobs and Leets alike.

Have you been banned from CM in the last month for any reason (we will check, and lies may result in immediate denial)?

Never so far, knock on wood.

Are you currently banned from any other servers and if so, why?

Not that I know of.

Do you understand that any player - donor or otherwise - can have their whitelist status revoked should they break our rules or disobey the Predator Code of Honor?

Absolutely, I'm not going to waste the courage I had to build-up to make an app, by being a douche.
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Re: L'ulij-bpe Gry'sui-bpe (Mad Stampede) Pred App

Post by Heckenshutze » 05 Feb 2017, 20:24

If this was an app for a Bad Blood I would give a +1 , but, No. That little unblooded would just get kicked out of the clan and his people for killing one of their kin. Reminds me a lot of those American bully scenarios with the weird and mad sociopath teen that goes on rampage and kills everyone. Personally I don't want that in the list. -1

EDIT: This -1 can change to neutral if you change the history on time, yet, I need to see you on the game and watch your interactions in and out of it (Forum activity)
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Post by Helgraf » 05 Feb 2017, 20:26

Heckenshutze wrote:If this was an app for a Bad Blood I would give a +1 , but, No. That little unblooded would just get kicked out of the clan and his people for killing one of their kin. Reminds me a lot of those American bully scenarios with the weird and mad sociopath teen that goes on rampage and kills everyone. Personally I don't want that in the list. -1
I completely agree with Heckenshutze
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Re: L'ulij-bpe Gry'sui-bpe (Mad Stampede) Pred App

Post by Marcus Jackson » 05 Feb 2017, 20:33

Heckenshutze wrote:If this was an app for a Bad Blood I would give a +1 , but, No. That little unblooded would just get kicked out of the clan and his people for killing one of their kin. Reminds me a lot of those American bully scenarios with the weird and mad sociopath teen that goes on rampage and kills everyone. Personally I don't want that in the list. -1
To be fair, the fight started out just fine. When the guy had a choice to either keep fighting and eventually lose, or simply have the honor and intelligence to concede that he would lose, he picked door number three of considering cheating/escalating the sparring match beyond the necessary point. L'ulij-bpe went overboard, no doubt about that, but it's not like he walks around the marketplace doing fatalities on people that sell him moldy bread, and the Blooded warrior would probably been punished pretty severely anyway if had killed L'ulij-bpe, or even just won the fistfight by using a knife.

Also I wouldn't really mind playing bad-blood, but I'd prefer not having a target on my back from three different factions just yet.
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Post by Sneakyr » 05 Feb 2017, 20:47

Was it an honorable duel? Even if so, it seems like many of the actions by both parties were pretty dishonorable. Doesn't really fit with pred lore/the honor code in my opinion. Not going to give a -1 yet, but you probably ought to change some things.
I do like some of the answers to the other questions, though.
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Post by Marcus Jackson » 05 Feb 2017, 21:06

This was kinda the best I could come up with at the present moment, as I'm much more comfortable with making a story for a Marine SL or Xeno Drone, mainly because I've played them and RP'd with them so much.

It was allowed by other Blooded warriors yes, but as to whether it was truly honorable is up for debate by most of the clan. About half the elders just want L'ulij-bpe out to get rid of the problem, but the other half at least want's to see how and why the Blooded warrior was beaten by someone half his size and a third his skill.

Really most Blooded warriors wouldn't accept a challenge from someone smaller and of a lower rank than them unless they were insulted, but I was basically just singling out the big guy as being one of the few who likes to mess with people just because he's big and thinks that'll get him a win. I agree that it was somewhat dishonorable for L'ulij-bpe to kill a fellow clan member, but realistically the escalation of the fight would have probably gotten the Blooded warrior banished as well for shanking an Unblooded in a fist-based duel. Also there is no guarantee he can't be banished later if he does not prove to have some kind of redeeming value to the elders, he'd be on really thin ice for a long time, but some elders would at least want to see what he's got by having him go on a hunt... whether or not he survives is as up-in-the-air as whether his performance would impress enough to not be banished.

I'm not sure which answers you mean, as I didn't think they were all that special, I was just answering honestly, but I'll simply say thanks bro. :)
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Post by Jay Burns » 05 Feb 2017, 21:07

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gd9OhYroLN0

the only thing i could think of while reading this app.

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Post by Marcus Jackson » 05 Feb 2017, 21:12

Jay Burns wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gd9OhYroLN0

the only thing i could think of while reading this app.
Never heard this song before, but LOL dude.

I can't tell if this is a diss, but if so you got me pretty good. :lol:

But This one will always hold a special place in my heart. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
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Post by shyshadow » 06 Feb 2017, 20:02

*Places on glasses, studying closely*

Okay, so for your backstory, it's well detailed, and I didn't notice any grammar errors, which is good. The problem is, that your Yautja like most other Yautja are clan like beings, treating their social structure more primitive then humans, never getting passed the stage of clans and such, but the problem here is that the Blooded Yautja are technically like, a lot more respected then Young Blood/Unblooded, and they're suppose to treated as hunters, warriors, regardless if your Yautja is aggressive and cares little of his own safety or consequences.
It would be a dishonorable to not allow a Unblooded into the training room, (Please add what kehrite means, not everyone knows) due to the fact it stops them from progressing and becoming more able to hunt. Which depending on the clan, would be rude and I'm pretty sure Blooded Warriors would be inside training then outside just being dicks, considering Yautja usually respect one another unless they lack honor (I.E. Badblood).
In regards to how the other Yautja acted, what a shame on his honor, using a fatal weapon in a duel where the Young Blood lacked any form of weaponry, not only do Yautja not hunt those who can't defend themselves, but they don't seep low, it's a disgrace on his honor, but L'ulij-bpe, was also dishonorable, due to not allowing his opponent to get up after he tackled him. (I'm taking this as a Honor Duel, considering you said "challenge") Regardless, neither L'ulij-bpe nor the Blooded Bully were honorable.
Also, you didn't add any form of example in the backstory of how you hunt, you only put an honor duel, which doesn't occur that often.

The way your Yautja will hunt, is well, I guess slightly different, I mean trying to surprise your opponents, isn't really different, but it's not something that's done often. Also, I see a lot of (I'll attack Specs and SLs) which is really annoying, not only to the marines, but to the player, I guess Honor Duels are a thing, but the likely hood of them occurring is low, I want to know how your Hunter will hunt. I notice that you'll never" hunt" Marines, only duel them, which is concerning, going after T2s and higher if fine. Though I feel like only dueling marines is unfair and one sided, also saying you'll "rush groups of marines..." is also concerning, I see how you wish to be an aggressive and courageous hunter, but way you say rush, does that mean you're trying to hunt multiple marines or are you trying to hunt a sole marine, but you're trying to surprise them by coming out of no where and just swinging wildly. If so, that's kinda already been done, though I won't judge you by that, considering you don't know, but I feel a lot of predators do this.

Now why should you be whitelisted?: I feel like your response is a bit lack luster, you don't give any reason why /you/ as an individual should be given the whitelist, you seem to just say "This predator did that, that predator did this" I don't see any reason why I would want to support your being given this whitelist. You say you want to change dishonorable predators, and make things better, but as I saw in your backstory, your Yautja is no better, I saw no reasons to support you receiving this whitelist other then you won't break the honor code.

Overall, not the worst application, but it wasn't up to a good enough standard for my own approval, there are many flaws with how your Yautja will hunt and acts that break a few rules of the honor code. Your forum activity, are meh, but I really care little for forum activity, nor do I know you in game. -1
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Post by Marcus Jackson » 06 Feb 2017, 22:14

shyshadow wrote:Overall, not the worst application, but it wasn't up to a good enough standard for my own approval, there are many flaws with how your Yautja will hunt and acts that break a few rules of the honor code. Your forum activity, are meh, but I really care little for forum activity, nor do I know you in game. -1
Thanks for the honesty man. :thumbup:

In response to the Marines, I did say that I will rush them more often when hunting them, rather than fire off at range to scatter them and hunt them from that point on. As someone who plays an SL very frequently, I usually stumble across my marines (Grunts mostly, sometimes even Medics god-forbid) being challenged to a duel or I'm only being told that a duel is happening when the marine is about to die or get dragged off, and then the Spec and myself need to step in. In response to hunting veia rush, yes I would try my utmost to hunt at least two marines at once if I'm able to properly "encourage" them, as hunting one grunt at a time seems a little unnecessary.

I understand that most Blooded warriors have a great sense of personal and clan honor, but there are always dicks and twats who either slack off or simply just like messing with people. I understand the Blooded was a bit of red-herring, but I don't think someone like that existing even in honorable clans is out of the realm of possibility.

In response to the Xenos, and speaking as someone who plays them a lot, dueling a Predator is usually a pretty bad idea since you have no real way to get the desire for a duel across before you get poked in the brainstem with a combistick, and even so (in character) Xenos would rather take a Predator down than allow them any chance of messing with the Hive... especially if the Marines are holding ground well. Though I will firmly avoid "shit-stomping" T1's if I can help it, as even fully matured ones have a really hard time even just getting away.

As for the Whitelisting? I don't really know what to say that applies or works for me when wanting to be predator, as most of the responses while true, sound a little dumb or even snooty.

"When I play Drone, I always try to make decent defences for the hive, and I usually stick close to the queen afterward so I can give her plasma since I don't really need it after that. I do my best to kill Marines, usually by hiding in the shadows and taking them down with a T3 helping me because the Drone is bad at everything but spreading the hive, but I like playing them anyway." This sounds like I don't do much as alien, and while technically that is true I still RP the shit out of it, and I find enjoyment in playing a class that no one else really wants to play because the focus is almost all support. I've been the Queen once or twice, and played it decently, but I don't think I'm cut out for that kind of role in the leadership-ladder, which is why I want to play a novice Predator that takes orders from those higher on the ladder than him.

Or: "I think I'm a good player for the Predator role, because I've managed to survive some of the most bone-headed Grunts and Bridge Officers in the game, and get most of my squad out alive. I also like to do my job, and my RP, with the highest quality and have been told that I help make being shit-stomped by Xenos and Predators at least bearable with my tactical whit and my good humor." While I have been told the last part by a newer player, and being SL is a job I think you shouldhave to apply for, I just don't see the moderate to high amount of experience I have as a marine player will have any impact as a Predator player aside from what I said in the App of not doing what I've seen badPredators do.

I honestly don't think I can give you a detailed and significant answer on "Why?" other than: "If you have played with me on the server then you know I like to have fun and that I like to help other people have fun too." I think I'd be a good Predator player, I'd hope I'd be a good Predator player, and I want to be a good Predator player, but I can't really come up with something more than that.

Thanks for your time man. :D
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Post by Boltersam » 07 Feb 2017, 02:15

To put it simply, your app doesn't work. Your Predator becomes a bad blood in the middle of the back story, as does the other. Almost ALL Predators would have fought honourably in that situation, and the bully, being Blooded, would kick your Unblooded ass.

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Post by Scrat505 » 07 Feb 2017, 09:37

While you've most certainly put effort into the backstory, the story just doesn't work out in Yautja lore as already stated (nearly cut myself on the edge also), and the playstyle is fairly uninspired.

Gonna need to go -1.

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Post by Marcus Jackson » 07 Feb 2017, 14:20

Scrat505 wrote:While you've most certainly put effort into the backstory, the story just doesn't work out in Yautja lore as already stated (nearly cut myself on the edge also), and the playstyle is fairly uninspired.

Gonna need to go -1.
I understand the backstory is the main issue that people have problems with, and that's not something I think took even 2 minutes to write up so I admit to not really looking at it too deeply... but the play style doesn't seem too uninspired if no one else does it as far as I've seen and experienced recently. I don't truly see the problem with simply stating that I will try to avoid doing negative things that Predators have been doing recently or how giving examples of the negative play, (IE: shooting people to a crippled state or even death from afar for no reason, killing Marines and survivors that can't fight back,) and other such things is a "bad" way to state my intention.

Also the play style is clarified in deeper context when I was asked by a previous user, and perhaps I should have just put the whole speech in the original app, but I stand by my point of outlining people (not naming names, and I'm too lazy/polite to check and snitch) who are getting very lax/negative with their own play styles, and saying that I will try to avoid committing the examples I give, and I'm confused why that is not at least satisfactory. Uninspired, perhaps if you squint, but I feel like the overall idea I'm trying to send is far from a bad one.

Thanks for the time though. -_-
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Post by Feweh » 07 Feb 2017, 14:26

Story and all that aside, I honestly have never seen you before.

I know you play xeno often, but still your account name doesnt ring a bell.

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Post by jusa297 » 07 Feb 2017, 17:41

Meh,to be fully honest it's good, but nothing too great. I'll keep it neutral.
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Post by Marcus Jackson » 07 Feb 2017, 19:09

Feweh wrote:Story and all that aside, I honestly have never seen you before.

I know you play xeno often, but still your account name doesnt ring a bell.
Really? I play SL quite often. For some reason I'm always SL of the smallest and most mismatched squads, though I haven't been on much last week, I do play quite often for both sides.
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Post by Marcus Jackson » 07 Feb 2017, 19:12

jusa297 wrote:Meh,to be fully honest it's good, but nothing too great. I'll keep it neutral.
I can respect that, thanks man. :thumbup:
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Post by Feweh » 14 Feb 2017, 15:47

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