Bhu'ja Awu'asa (Soul Armor)

[spheretech]

Byond ID: Spheretech

Marine Name (so we know who you are, if you play alien mostly, state that here): Lisa 'Hotshot' Taylor

Name of the character you want whitelisted (The name your predator will use. This must match your in-game predator name): Bhu'ja Awu'asa

Are you familiar with the Predator Code Of Honor? Yes.

Character background (A very BRIEF description of your predators background):
Background
Bhu'ja Awu'asa, crudely Soul Armor or Soul Shield is a blooded member of the Blood Raider clan.
The Blood Raiders are a firmly established religious family seated far from Yautja homeworlds on a space station.
Although the clan is viewed by some as a cult of religious fanatics, their influence is not disregarded so easily, for their prowess in honorable combat aside from the unorthodox motives is widely renowned.
They see blood as a sacred commodity placed into living things by gods such as the "Black Warrior" but also other, more "sinister" deities. The raiders believe that consuming the blood of their prey seals the sacred bond of honor between the combatants, besides prolonging life (although never proved).

Bhu'ja Awu'asa, son of elite hunter Bhu'ja Thwei (Soul Blood), was born on the family estate on the planet the Raider station orbits.
This planet is an inhospitable arid world. A dead world. At first sight anyway. Awu'asa grew up accustomed to the native insectoid mantis-like creatures, the Mantid, but did not dare venture into their underground hives.
He would often see the other clan members returning from the insectoid hunts razed, wounded and bloodied, but with many trophies to be used in their rituals. These sights frightened him.

Awu'asa tried hiding or being "busy" during the ceremonies to avoid this nonsense that scared him and didn't matter to him. However, his father, along with the rest of the family, did not like this.
His father would punish him severely with a whip made of insectoid claws for any foolery, but it wasn't enough. Preparation for the trials had to begin. Besides the regular strength, stamina and technique, the Raiders were most notable for their art of "blood sensing", which involves spending days in an Anechoic chamber with a live creature so one could learn to hear and recognize the heartbeats. Awu'asa begged to not be sent on the Raider initiation trial but with no avail.

The Trial
He was given two wrist blades and no body armor, then blessed and bathed in blood under the god effigies. Blood was his armor, faith was his shield. The clan threw him into a cave and closed the entrance.
He was terrified, trembling in the dark abyss.
The Mantid would come soon. They were hungry. They're always hungry... He heard a thump. And then another. It was the Mantid's hearts he was hearing.
The tunnel was dark, but there was only one way out now. Through the nest. Dripping with sweat and fueled with anger for his family he moved forward clashing his blades together for the sparks light.
This only attracted more attention, but he was ready. The ugly insectoid drone leaped towards him, but he would step out of the way and gut it. It was dead before it even hit the ground. With each kill
came new strength - the blood he drank fueled him as he progressed through the chasm. He was gaining faith.

Openings in the cave ceiling provided more insight on his surrounding now. The Mantid eggs needed sunlight to hatch... The matriarch is here.
A screech echoed from above as a 3 meter tall beast with razor claws fell onto his back, nearly splitting his spine open. Badly wounded Awu'asa rolled away while parrying with wrist blades.
A glimpse at the ceiling revealed a large chimney-like opening - a way out. He dashed onto a wall and then propelled himself with one leg into the matriarch, crushing it's jaw with the other.
"The beast is dazed, this is my chance" - he thought to himself. Awu'asa began climbing up the chimney towards the light, the matriarch now joined by a horde of underlings screeching after him.

A figure towered at the top, seemingly in disapproval. It was his father. Upon seeing him father, anger briefly filled the young warriors veins. The rage passed as he realized what his family helped him become.
Awu'asa let go of his footing and readied his blades as he fell towards the swarm. The momentum drove his arm straight through the matriarchs skull, killing it instantly.
The rest of the hive scattered after the demoralizing death.

Profusely bleeding and battered, he looked up. The whole clan was watching from above, silently proud of the new initiates feat.
Realizing his great potential and a newfound love for the berserker fight style, Awu'asa moved on from his homeworld in search of worthier pray, faithful but also skeptical of the old ways.


How do you intend to play your predator (as in, describe HOW you will act/play your predator. This will weigh HEAVILY and frequently breaking from this MAY result in removal)?
I intend to disregard all ranged weaponry besides the occasional weapon throw. I'll most likely use only the wrist blades, but definitely a melee weapon anyway.
I believe stuns are the ultimate dishonor in ss13 in general, so I will not damage a stunned opponent. I may use a trap but only for the slowdown effect.
I'm sure this is nothing new but hopefully I can put some scares in with roars, stalking and all that.
I'll use the cloak as little as possible to support my all-in bruiser type combat and try not to kill anybody with my self destruct if it comes to using it.
Duels with no kicking while downed with marines would be fun (I'll take my armor off ofcourse).
No massacres will happen, as I'll pick out the most robust xeno or marine and go after them until the end.

Why should we whitelist you?
I know how players see predators right now, I myself think they're very interesting and cool but usually only bring salt and hatred with every person they kill, especially with self destructs.
Hopefully I can bring a more honorable, fun fight to the table without any of the stuns or ranged weapons. Because of my technical knowledge of the mechanics, I can put more focus into
actual roleplay with the strength that comes with the role. I'm sure I can find a way to make a predator actually interesting for both sides.

Have you been banned from CM in the last month for any reason (we will check, and lies may result in immediate denial)? Nope.

Are you currently banned from any other servers and if so, why? Nope.

Do you understand that any player - donor or otherwise - can have their whitelist status revoked should they break our rules or disobey the Predator Code of Honor? Yes.

[Boltersam]

I'll handle this in the morning. Looks a little rushed at first glance.

[spheretech]

I'll handle this in the morning. Looks a little rushed at first glance.

Actually took like 3 hours of reading pred lore and writing. I'm not much of a story writer anyway. ;_;

[Boltersam]

Actually took like 3 hours of reading pred lore and writing. I'm not much of a story writer anyway. ;_;

Remember that most pred apps take MONTHS to properly complete, if they want to be accepted. Mine took around three months and it was barely accepted, in my eyes.

[spheretech]

Remember that most pred apps take MONTHS to properly complete, if they want to be accepted. Mine took around three months and it was barely accepted, in my eyes.

Makes sense. Gonna hope I did this right then.

[Renomaki]

Hm... Well, since I am a pred, I could probably share my thoughts on the matter.

First off, while I could be wrong, but I don't quite have the fondest memories of Hotshot. I don't recall you being very talkative, never saw you in a non-combat role (In fact, you mostly seemed to hog the spec role any chance you get), and may have a slight powergamer mentality of you. I haven't forgotten the time long ago when I had you as a spec in my squad (I was Alpha leader at the time), and you refused orders to regroup because you chose rather to rush up with another squad to get stuck into combat, which shows bad teamwork and communication skills.

As for your predator itself... The background is interesting, although it is concerning how a predator seemed quite hesitant to "grow up" and become one of the many hunters that populate common Yautja society. Most predators would find it a great honor to have the chance to prove their maturity and show their clan what all their training amounted to. I'm not saying ALL predators have the same mindset, of course, so it could be possible that there are predators that would rather live the simple life and avoid a life of adventure and danger.

Other than that, though, I don't see too much issue with the rest of the background. The playstyle, on the other hand...

See, lets be real here. As an experienced hunter with many serpent kills to my name, your playstyle would no doubt result in a LOT of frustration. Many people assume that killin shit as a pred is easier than it looks, but oh no buddy.. It'll take more than them claws and courage alone to get shit done.

For one, without cloaking means you'll struggle to stalk and ambush your targets (moreso if there are many lights in an area), and xenos are more than likely to attack you. It isn't IMPOSSIBLE, but it carries great risk to your personal safety.

As for avoiding ranged weapons... I myself try to avoid using ranged weapons when I can help it, but I realized that sometimes you gotta whip out your blaster and go to town on some asshole's ass, be it a violent xeno that keeps chasing and trying to kill you despite not wanting to deal with it or a squad of marines that attack the lodge full force guns blazing. While I admire the idea of a predator trying their best to conserve their tech and focus on honorable hand to hand combat, you can't deny that when the going gets tough, its time to unleash some high tech pain (within reason, anyways). Which brings me to another issue...

I notice you desire to use the claws for the most part. Claws hurt, that is certain, but for the most part they are more a secondary weapon (at least in my opinion). The primaries are where most of your combat capability is. Sure, claws might work well enough against marines for the most part, but once xenos come into play, you are gonna need a bigger boat... Er, I mean weapon.

Trying to avoid hitting your rival while stunned is good sportsmanship, but a stun is also good for when you need a quick breather to recollect yourself and prepare another charge. After all, your enemies (mostly xenos) will show no regret in stunning YOU to death, so keep that in mind.

In the case of being hesitant to use your bracer bomb? Don't. It is considered a great dishonor to let the valuable tech of your people fall into the hands of humans. Impaling a throwing spear into someone is merely a loss of that spear, but losing your high tech mask to them? A great offence that could be punished dearly. Show no remorse in blowing your bracer if you are on the brink of death, and remember that in Yautja culture, the more you get in your blast, the more glorious your death.

And to end my rambling... The idea of avoiding massacres is a kind thought, but you must be aware that bloody battles are not started by you, they are started by your prey. Be it a xeno swarm coming to attack the lodge, or a full compliment of marines barging into your lodge and trying to kill everyone and/or steal everything you have. Defending the lodge is something every hunter will end up doing at some point with various degrees of success, but in the end, a dozen or so foes may die in the process, and it'll be their own fault for trying to attack the lodge out of greed or hatred of your people.

I try very hard to provide good roleplay for both the living and the dead, and have had quite a few interesting adventures, glorious battles and fine hunts... But in the end, no matter how much you amuse some people, others will always be upset of their deaths at your hands... The same sort that no doubt would feel no regret if they killed YOU without much provocation. Care little about what people think of predators, and simply just enjoy the hunt and try to keep things in moderation... And if things get bloody, at least try to make it interesting for the dead men and women watching.

[SagaSword]

Renomaki just said everything, your bio is very interesting indeed but your playstyle is a bit...let's just say poor.
Undoubtly you are a good player but yea, I don't see you much in combat roles. I will say neutral leaning to -1

[spheretech]

Hm... Well, since I am a pred, I could probably share my thoughts on the matter.

First off, while I could be wrong, but I don't quite have the fondest memories of Hotshot. I don't recall you being very talkative, never saw you in a non-combat role (In fact, you mostly seemed to hog the spec role any chance you get), and may have a slight powergamer mentality of you. I haven't forgotten the time long ago when I had you as a spec in my squad (I was Alpha leader at the time), and you refused orders to regroup because you chose rather to rush up with another squad to get stuck into combat, which shows bad teamwork and communication skills.

As for your predator itself... The background is interesting, although it is concerning how a predator seemed quite hesitant to "grow up" and become one of the many hunters that populate common Yautja society. Most predators would find it a great honor to have the chance to prove their maturity and show their clan what all their training amounted to. I'm not saying ALL predators have the same mindset, of course, so it could be possible that there are predators that would rather live the simple life and avoid a life of adventure and danger.

Other than that, though, I don't see too much issue with the rest of the background. The playstyle, on the other hand...

See, lets be real here. As an experienced hunter with many serpent kills to my name, your playstyle would no doubt result in a LOT of frustration. Many people assume that killin shit as a pred is easier than it looks, but oh no buddy.. It'll take more than them claws and courage alone to get shit done.

For one, without cloaking means you'll struggle to stalk and ambush your targets (moreso if there are many lights in an area), and xenos are more than likely to attack you. It isn't IMPOSSIBLE, but it carries great risk to your personal safety.

As for avoiding ranged weapons... I myself try to avoid using ranged weapons when I can help it, but I realized that sometimes you gotta whip out your blaster and go to town on some asshole's ass, be it a violent xeno that keeps chasing and trying to kill you despite not wanting to deal with it or a squad of marines that attack the lodge full force guns blazing. While I admire the idea of a predator trying their best to conserve their tech and focus on honorable hand to hand combat, you can't deny that when the going gets tough, its time to unleash some high tech pain (within reason, anyways). Which brings me to another issue...

I notice you desire to use the claws for the most part. Claws hurt, that is certain, but for the most part they are more a secondary weapon (at least in my opinion). The primaries are where most of your combat capability is. Sure, claws might work well enough against marines for the most part, but once xenos come into play, you are gonna need a bigger boat... Er, I mean weapon.

Trying to avoid hitting your rival while stunned is good sportsmanship, but a stun is also good for when you need a quick breather to recollect yourself and prepare another charge. After all, your enemies (mostly xenos) will show no regret in stunning YOU to death, so keep that in mind.

In the case of being hesitant to use your bracer bomb? Don't. It is considered a great dishonor to let the valuable tech of your people fall into the hands of humans. Impaling a throwing spear into someone is merely a loss of that spear, but losing your high tech mask to them? A great offence that could be punished dearly. Show no remorse in blowing your bracer if you are on the brink of death, and remember that in Yautja culture, the more you get in your blast, the more glorious your death.

And to end my rambling... The idea of avoiding massacres is a kind thought, but you must be aware that bloody battles are not started by you, they are started by your prey. Be it a xeno swarm coming to attack the lodge, or a full compliment of marines barging into your lodge and trying to kill everyone and/or steal everything you have. Defending the lodge is something every hunter will end up doing at some point with various degrees of success, but in the end, a dozen or so foes may die in the process, and it'll be their own fault for trying to attack the lodge out of greed or hatred of your people.

I try very hard to provide good roleplay for both the living and the dead, and have had quite a few interesting adventures, glorious battles and fine hunts... But in the end, no matter how much you amuse some people, others will always be upset of their deaths at your hands... The same sort that no doubt would feel no regret if they killed YOU without much provocation. Care little about what people think of predators, and simply just enjoy the hunt and try to keep things in moderation... And if things get bloody, at least try to make it interesting for the dead men and women watching.

Thanks for the post. I tried making a different background than the other apps, a pred who actually at first didn't even want to be a hunter. Besides my past I'm not so proud of, I gotta say that I kinda get tunnel vision as a marine. Because dying is so easy as a marine I can't put much time into RP. I play the combat roles because I'm best at them. I've played as a predator before and I am somewhat familiar with their strength so I wanted to change it up, knowing that I would be hard to kill I think I could pull off the no cloak wristblade gameplay. It gives me a fun challange and the enemy a better chance of killing me.

[Boltersam]

The backstory was meh. Didn't really impress with anything, was short, focused too heavily on the clan. Didn't tell us anything about your Predator's personality besides that he didn't really want to be a hunter.

The playstyle is...A little unrealistic. A bit hopeful. You'll need to use ranged weapons eventually. They're necessary, even sometimes vital. When it comes to the wristblades, you'll be fighting Xenos sooner or later, and they don't cut it when put up against them. On the self destruct, don't hesitate with it. It's nice that you want to preserve lives, but one of the worst things a Predator can do is allow their gear and body to be stolen. Sure, if it's not a case where you have to destruct immediately or die, then you can try to avoid killing people, as while it's honourable to kill people with your self destruct, it is also pretty shitty to use it on people who don't bring it upon themselves.

Honestly, this seems like a rushed app. It doesn't contain much, and the playstyle doesn't seem like it'll work out in execution.

-1.

[Renomaki]

I've played as a predator before and I am somewhat familiar with their strength so I wanted to change it up, knowing that I would be hard to kill I think I could pull off the no cloak wristblade gameplay. It gives me a fun challange and the enemy a better chance of killing me.

Lemme guess... You played predator on the bootleg server that was around a long time ago, didn't you?

Yeah, lemme get one thing clear, if you are using THAT to determine how strong predators are, you haven't really experienced the true struggle of the hunter.

You play marine a lot, right? You ever been tackle-spammed? Guess who else suffers that when fighting robust xenos. Think marines are easy prey? You haven't got RNG knifed to the face and blacked out yet. And if a ravager slices your arm off, well... Good luck.

You don't need to make it easier for people to kill you, because it is already pretty easy to die as a predator. The mortality rate of preds is very, VERY high, with many of them either dying due to a flurry of bullets and explosions, or a swarm of xenos surrounding you and pounding you like they were recording a low-budget porno. You ever seen that battle I had with a predalien awhile back? I died because my mask kept falling off, exposing my head for an easy decapitation.

Being a predator in general is a challenge in of itself. Everyone will fear and hate you, and will want you dead the moment you get your first kill from any side. It is sometimes like a more advanced form of the survivor job, where you will have to scavenge for supplies to survive and protect your home away from home from looters and attackers. And when the time comes for death, trying to die as gloriously as possible in a blast can mean the difference between giving the ultimate "FUCK YOU" to the swarms of enemies that surround you before you pass out, or just making a fool of yourself as you blow yourself up and accomplish nothing with it.

I know I am being harsh on you, but that is because I have experienced the struggle first-hand. In a good round, being a predator can be a thrilling experience full of adventure and glory, where even death can be rather satisfying at times when you see the result of your final blast and see the carnage that it has caused. But it can also be very frustrating at times as well, as I have experienced countless times, from getting point-blanked Sadared to losing my mask to a young hunter and nearly dying because I couldn't find my mask in the thick jungle vines.

Never assume that you are strong simply because you are a predator. It takes just as much brains as it takes brawn, this I still learn even today.

[SagaSword]

Never assume that you are strong simply because you are a predator. It takes just as much brains as it takes brawn, this I still learn even today.

This reminds me of something I've seen before...Oh yea...

Fact 27: Predators are wimp ass no muscle NERDS. Show them who the jock of this jungle high school is by waving a machete around and stomping into their lodge

There you go.

[Casany]

Lemme guess... You played predator on the bootleg server that was around a long time ago, didn't you?

Yeah, lemme get one thing clear, if you are using THAT to determine how strong predators are, you haven't really experienced the true struggle of the hunter.

You play marine a lot, right? You ever been tackle-spammed? Guess who else suffers that when fighting robust xenos. Think marines are easy prey? You haven't got RNG knifed to the face and blacked out yet. And if a ravager slices your arm off, well... Good luck.

You don't need to make it easier for people to kill you, because it is already pretty easy to die as a predator. The mortality rate of preds is very, VERY high, with many of them either dying due to a flurry of bullets and explosions, or a swarm of xenos surrounding you and pounding you like they were recording a low-budget porno. You ever seen that battle I had with a predalien awhile back? I died because my mask kept falling off, exposing my head for an easy decapitation.

Being a predator in general is a challenge in of itself. Everyone will fear and hate you, and will want you dead the moment you get your first kill from any side. It is sometimes like a more advanced form of the survivor job, where you will have to scavenge for supplies to survive and protect your home away from home from looters and attackers. And when the time comes for death, trying to die as gloriously as possible in a blast can mean the difference between giving the ultimate "FUCK YOU" to the swarms of enemies that surround you before you pass out, or just making a fool of yourself as you blow yourself up and accomplish nothing with it.

I know I am being harsh on you, but that is because I have experienced the struggle first-hand. In a good round, being a predator can be a thrilling experience full of adventure and glory, where even death can be rather satisfying at times when you see the result of your final blast and see the carnage that it has caused. But it can also be very frustrating at times as well, as I have experienced countless times, from getting point-blanked Sadared to losing my mask to a young hunter and nearly dying because I couldn't find my mask in the thick jungle vines.

Never assume that you are strong simply because you are a predator. It takes just as much brains as it takes brawn, this I still learn even today.

Spheretech was once an accepted predator who broke the honor code actually Reno. Never assume anything.

Anyway, I'll let the other guys decide how your app will go, but from my experience you seem very entitled and when you were removed from pred you made a TON of false reports and useless ahelps and whatnot. So I dunno

[spheretech]

Spheretech was once an accepted predator who broke the honor code actually Reno. Never assume anything.

Anyway, I'll let the other guys decide how your app will go, but from my experience you seem very entitled and when you were removed from pred you made a TON of false reports and useless ahelps and whatnot. So I dunno

Well that was a long time ago and I was just a salty player back then. I believe my change in attitude helped getting my mod app accepted. I ask that you don't judge me for what happened a year or even two ago. I'm not the same guy.

[spheretech]

The backstory was meh. Didn't really impress with anything, was short, focused too heavily on the clan. Didn't tell us anything about your Predator's personality besides that he didn't really want to be a hunter.

The playstyle is...A little unrealistic. A bit hopeful. You'll need to use ranged weapons eventually. They're necessary, even sometimes vital. When it comes to the wristblades, you'll be fighting Xenos sooner or later, and they don't cut it when put up against them. On the self destruct, don't hesitate with it. It's nice that you want to preserve lives, but one of the worst things a Predator can do is allow their gear and body to be stolen. Sure, if it's not a case where you have to destruct immediately or die, then you can try to avoid killing people, as while it's honourable to kill people with your self destruct, it is also pretty shitty to use it on people who don't bring it upon themselves.

Honestly, this seems like a rushed app. It doesn't contain much, and the playstyle doesn't seem like it'll work out in execution.

-1.

I didn't want to write a wall of text but just a brief story, besides, I'm really not a writer so can't blame you on this. However, maybe it's unrealistic, but I really think can pull it off and be just as effective as the other predators. I don't care that it's not the strongest playstyle, but like I said, it adds challenge for me and a way for the enemy to take me down. Those were my terms, I wouldn't use ranged weaponry. Although the first time around preds didn't have close to this many weapons, I didn't use the caster much even then because ranged stuns are really not fun.

I'm trying something different and perhaps this is what preds need? I haven't seen any change in attitude towards them or liking of a specific preds gameplay, but maybe we can change that by adding some variety and experimenting with some unorthodox players like myself. Nonetheless, your input is appreciated!

[Aracino]

Listen, to the people who're saying that he'll get killed by using this weird method. Just stop. You want unique predators to enter into the pred community, then this guy will intentionally limit himself. If someone does one method that's bland, people complain about it being genric, if someone does a unique style that also limits the predator in a way, people complain about it. Personally I'd be fine with a pred using wrist blades, maybe they want the honor of being someone who's balls to the walls insane. Its like a marine dual wielding pistols, it may not be effective, but it's unique and not a common method for people to use. Also, I did read your story and despite me not being a complete predator lore buff, I liked it. It showed the character changing from his initial hesitant and weak roots to become something more, into a hunter. Though his hesitance as other said, was likely something that would be looked down upon in their culture, and if you chose to not use cloak to run away, that may be your downfall when faced with xenos, marine...Eh, not as much. But overall, I personally give the app a +1. I liked the story, despite certain parts. (As I do with most predator apps I've read, most notably in the accepted category) And the play style will likely bring less salt and people complaining about honorable actions. Can't complain about a predator stealthing and being unhonorable if they never use stealth and ranged weapons.

[Garrison]

You seem rather set on your play style. If your able to actually pull it off successfully, that'll be impressive. Especially since you want to refrain from salt worthy tactics. (Stuns, ranged spam, etc)


Your backstory doesn't reveal much about how you'll RP as your Predator. However, based off your story, there are a few hints of the following traits.

-Cautious (You are scared of the hunt, but since it is the way of life for Predators, you have to make do. You learn to control/trust you're fear to help keep you alive or avoid situations some Predators would jump into without hesitation. Which will be useful since you don't want to rely on Cloaking.)

-Glory Seeker (Your parents are always looking down on you. Anxious to prove them wrong, you want only the finest of trophies to get back at those who doubt you)


Lastly, (mostly out of curiosity rather then judging) what makes your Predator skeptical of the clans traditions & ways? Only reason I can really find is that the traditions scared him as a child.


My verdict: While your backstory isn't very fleshed out or good at describing your character. It is still acceptable, as a result though, I feel your gonna need to prove to the judges that you will be able to Role play. Your intentions and reasons for wanting to join the white list are honorable, and wanting to find a way to break the meta, for better or for worse.

Although I'm a bit hesitant, I say this is a +1

[doodeeda]

Limiting yourself so much straight from the start is odd to me especially because I don't see any huge benefits. For one, if you get accepted, won't you feel curious or tempted to try out all the new weapons and gadgets that predators have? Predators may get new toys too with updates. Each option will have different advantages and be unique..and you may find yourself drawn to a particular loadout because it's fun. Personally, I can't see the iconic Predator without seeing the Plasmacaster. I suppose you'll see only after getting accepted (which is the goal currently!).

Secondly, it's not like you'll avoid salt and hate by limiting yourself in this way. Predator players don't kill stunned players without scrutiny from the higher ups. Ranged attacks don't cause salt unless you do a lot of damage with them (which shouldn't happen ordinarily). By the way, you can use the plasmacaster without stunning. Do players really salt over a 1 second stun from a plasmacaster shot that does negligible damage? People salt and hate in deadchat because they were killed by the predator..predators don't usually kill with ranged weapons. If you would like to play an all melee predator because that's fun for you..that's great, but I will be confused if your sole reason is to limit "salt and hatred." Don't limit your fun if you won't accomplish anything! I really don't think you are what this server needs just because you constrain yourself to melee. Just be like all the other predator players and be careful in your use of ranged attacks..make your playstyle to what will be fun for you. Not damaging stunned opponents is standard in duels. I don't kill stunned opponents ever. Using little cloak won't limit salt. Predators shouldn't cloak when dueling already. You dying because you don't cloak probably wouldn't cause salt. Aiming for as little casualties with the bomb is great. It is a goal shared by many current predators. Unfortunately, it is not our choice to how large the explosion size is.

Listen, to the people who're saying that he'll get killed by using this weird method. Just stop. You want unique predators to enter into the pred community, then this guy will intentionally limit himself. If someone does one method that's bland, people complain about it being genric, if someone does a unique style that also limits the predator in a way, people complain about it.

I don't see anything wrong with going unique, weird, or preferring melee over ranged. I do see why other people may have responded the way they did. Spheretech's responses and application could lead someone to think that he is misguided or naive.

like I said, it adds challenge for me and a way for the enemy to take me down.

In this response and others, he could sound arrogant to someone. Currently, predators don't need to limit themselves to be taken down easily.

While it cannot be expected for applicants to know what it is like to play as a predator, applicants would be better off the more they knew. Renomaki and Boltersam have gone to a great effort in trying to share their experiences and views.

[spheretech]

Limiting yourself so much straight from the start is odd to me especially because I don't see any huge benefits. For one, if you get accepted, won't you feel curious or tempted to try out all the new weapons and gadgets that predators have? Predators may get new toys too with updates. Each option will have different advantages and be unique..and you may find yourself drawn to a particular loadout because it's fun. Personally, I can't see the iconic Predator without seeing the Plasmacaster. I suppose you'll see only after getting accepted (which is the goal currently!).

I've had the chance of playing the old predator (with less gadgets ofcourse), trying the plasma caster and all that. Sometimes as marines we also get the chance to see pred gear in action or even use some of it. I chose a melee build because I have a history in affection towards melee combat in ss13 and on CM (bayonet shotguns, machete, shield..). It fits my playstyle well and on top of that is considered "more honorable" which is a win win in my book!

Secondly, it's not like you'll avoid salt and hate by limiting yourself in this way. Predator players don't kill stunned players without scrutiny from the higher ups. Ranged attacks don't cause salt unless you do a lot of damage with them (which shouldn't happen ordinarily). By the way, you can use the plasmacaster without stunning. Do players really salt over a 1 second stun from a plasmacaster shot that does negligible damage? People salt and hate in deadchat because they were killed by the predator..predators don't usually kill with ranged weapons. If you would like to play an all melee predator because that's fun for you..that's great, but I will be confused if your sole reason is to limit "salt and hatred." Don't limit your fun if you won't accomplish anything! I really don't think you are what this server needs just because you constrain yourself to melee. Just be like all the other predator players and be careful in your use of ranged attacks..make your playstyle to what will be fun for you. Not damaging stunned opponents is standard in duels. I don't kill stunned opponents ever. Using little cloak won't limit salt. Predators shouldn't cloak when dueling already. You dying because you don't cloak probably wouldn't cause salt. Aiming for as little casualties with the bomb is great. It is a goal shared by many current predators. Unfortunately, it is not our choice to how large the explosion size is.

Sadly you're right about avoiding salt, It's probably not possible at all, especially when it comes to this role. As I've had a fair number of opportunities to fight predators as both marine and xeno (and use some of their melee gear), I know exactly what I dislike about them. I want to avoid all those things that were unfun and then work from there. If limiting my fun as a predator leads to less of this hatred, salt and more amusement for the actual important players, I'm okay with that. I guess making others happy makes ME happy for some reason. My spriting could be an example (although I don't do it much)? I don't sprite for the sake of spriting, I do it so others could enjoy something I've created. Just having the privilege of even being a predator, although with these limitations, would be enough for me.

[Aracino]

Marines salt over xeno stuns. Marines salt over MPs. Marines salt over peri being banned. If marines can salt, they will salt. Xenos aren't an exception, they will salt as much as marines. What I'm saying is, no matter what, there's salt, being a mod, I'm sure he'll be able to handle said salt relatively well. Since can a marine really complain about losing to a pred who just stabbed them in the face? It's like complaining about a runner that just tail stabbed you, it's a part of the server. Deal with it.

[Recounted]

It's everyday I often see everyone complain about someone trying a new style. Did sphere say he was gonna limit himself? Yeah he did how about we see how exactly he tackles this playstyle and see if it is interesting.

+1

[Karmac]

I look at your playstyle, and then look at mine, which is pretty similar, and then I look at the shit I have to deal with as a predator trying to do those things, and until we get a rework or something I really don't think you're going to enjoy the role as much as you think you will. I've been focusing a lot more on emotes and not actually harming marines lately, but they always just resort to gunning you down, and no one in their right mind walks around on their own so good luck with that too...

[Nick123q23]

I don't know you well. People say you have a spotty history and I'd like to see what happened the previous time you were a predator and how you got removed from it the first time.

As a moderator though, I already have decent expectations for your behavior should you be accepted again.

But regarding your actual application, I think it's pretty good.
Bhu'ja Awu'asa doesn't have a lot of character besides being a reluctant hunter, though that in itself is a new spin on most predators, and his name doesn't destroy my throat when I say it. The high point of your story was the Blood raiders clan, I like their mysticism with the blood of their prey, and that they hunt a dangerous species that isn't a xenomorph. I'd like the departure from typical yautja clans even more if I knew what you knew about typical yautja hunters.

No one really sticks completely to their playstyle once they get accepted, because nobody can make a playstyle without knowing what CM predators have, what they don't have, and what they can do because we still don't have everything ever mentioned in AVP lore, yet we still judge you on the playstyle most of all anyway. It's more about the intention. But for all these naysayers here telling you that you've gotta PLAY HARDBALL OR YOU'LL DIE IN FIVE SECONDS, is completely true. Predators at the time of writing are very weak to everything. something that we shouldn't be telling everyone but whatever who really cares
So right now everyone does the same things so that they don't die in five seconds. There's not a lot of variety, variety that we could be using to spice up the rounds.

However, if you could stick to your playstyle and pull it off, you'd get a lot of brownie points for being something new and original.


Your reasons to be whitelisted are remarkably similar to a dozen other's peoples. You can say you want to improve predators in the eyes of the playerbase, but what will you do to help the problem?

You will suffer. That is guaranteed. This role isn't about going on a powertrip, it's about suffering for fun and making other people have fun besides the fact that you're much like a survivor with a malfunctioning guille suit, a dull knife, and a hydrogen bomb.


I want your response before I give you my support.

[spheretech]

I don't know you well. People say you have a spotty history and I'd like to see what happened the previous time you were a predator and how you got removed from it the first time.

As a moderator though, I already have decent expectations for your behavior should you be accepted again.

But regarding your actual application, I think it's pretty good.
Bhu'ja Awu'asa doesn't have a lot of character besides being a reluctant hunter, though that in itself is a new spin on most predators, and his name doesn't destroy my throat when I say it. The high point of your story was the Blood raiders clan, I like their mysticism with the blood of their prey, and that they hunt a dangerous species that isn't a xenomorph. I'd like the departure from typical yautja clans even more if I knew what you knew about typical yautja hunters.

No one really sticks completely to their playstyle once they get accepted, because nobody can make a playstyle without knowing what CM predators have, what they don't have, and what they can do because we still don't have everything ever mentioned in AVP lore, yet we still judge you on the playstyle most of all anyway. It's more about the intention. But for all these naysayers here telling you that you've gotta PLAY HARDBALL OR YOU'LL DIE IN FIVE SECONDS, is completely true. Predators at the time of writing are very weak to everything. something that we shouldn't be telling everyone but whatever who really cares
So right now everyone does the same things so that they don't die in five seconds. There's not a lot of variety, variety that we could be using to spice up the rounds.

However, if you could stick to your playstyle and pull it off, you'd get a lot of brownie points for being something new and original.


Your reasons to be whitelisted are remarkably similar to a dozen other's peoples. You can say you want to improve predators in the eyes of the playerbase, but what will you do to help the problem?

You will suffer. That is guaranteed. This role isn't about going on a powertrip, it's about suffering for fun and making other people have fun besides the fact that you're much like a survivor with a malfunctioning guille suit, a dull knife, and a hydrogen bomb.


I want your response before I give you my support.

Thanks for your input bud. I don't remember exactly when this was but it had to do with attempting to get surgery on Sulaco after a extremely annoying lung puncture. I failed to do this and got swarmed and tackled by aliens, having to self destruct which made a breach. There weren't many preds back then and the rules weren't really fleshed out at all so it was kinda hard to know what was within boundaries. I assume this was the reason because I got removed after this round.
However I am not proud of my behavior in general at that time so that was probably a big factor.

As for the playstyle, I am prepared to suffer. The challenge itself should be enough for me. Undoubtedly I will have to use the self destruct probably even more often than the other preds.

I don't think there's much anyone can really do to improve the predators reputation but we gotta start somewhere.

[jusa297]

The lack of ~Snip~s in this thread pisses me off. I'm all for unique playstiles, or maybe I'm just happy to see someone succeed in the same area as I failed, but I'd love to see your pred in game. +1

[Renomaki]

You know, I think the "getting surgery on the Sulico" part is probably a part of the reason why you got removed.

I don't know if it is allowed or not, but for the most part it is most certainly HEAVILY frowned upon for predators to go to marines for medical help. I lost an arm once and considered asking the marines for help on the matter... But then I thought long and hard about it, and realized it would bring a great stain to my honor if I resorted to such a desperate thing.

So I committed suppuku to regain what honor I had left and die with some shred of dignity on our main ship, instead of returning home as a cripple (since if I heard correctly, cripples tend to be turned into slaves in Yautja society.)

You can't even do surgery on fellow preds anymore, since it has been considered a bad thing now. If you get a popped lung, you keep hunting till you die.