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Va'Ja Zakaath (Playful Stalker)

Post by emeraldmoonx » 27 Oct 2017, 03:53

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Marine Name (so we know who you are; if you play alien mostly, state that here): Elric 'Magic-Hands' Wolff

Name of the character you want whitelisted (The name your predator will use. This must match your in-game predator name): Va'ja Zakaath

Are you familiar with the Predator Code Of Honor? Yes, I've read it thoroughly.

Character background (An ADEQUATE description and story of your predators background):
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How do you intend to play your predator (as in, describe HOW you will act/play your predator)?
Va'ja takes much enjoyment in the hunt. He will choose a target and extensively follow them, terrifying them until he's satisfied, but not enough to break the prey's spirit. Simply put, Va'ja is saddistic and enjoys hunting way too much. Rarely does he consider a human worthy prey unless they have shown to be great warriors. To this regard, he will avidly watch humans until one peaks his interests and even then he will observe the human to see how worthy he really is. He will gladly fight a human in honor duels if it serves to further terrify them or he truly finds them worthy. Va'ja loves collecting trophies as well, it gives him great pride.

Why should we whitelist you?
I'm big on RP, I already have a synthetic whitelist. I don't play it often, as I mostly observe nowadays due to staff duties. I, however, love to RP, and I love how preds work, and the rules/honor code that they follow is really interesting and I'd have no issue following it. I'd never break any rules or the honor code intentionally and intend to follow it 100%.

Have you been banned from CM in the last month for any reason (we will check, and lies may result in immediate denial)? No, I've been banned once by Apophis, but this was a false ban as the ban was never applied fully.

Are you currently banned from any other servers and if so, why? Never.

Do you understand that any player - donor or otherwise - can have their whitelist status revoked should they break our rules or disobey the Predator Code of Honor? Yes.
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Re: Va'Ja Zakaath (Playful Stalker)

Post by taketheshot56 » 27 Oct 2017, 03:57

Very detailed and creative backstory I like it. +1
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Re: Va'Ja Zakaath (Playful Stalker)

Post by emeraldmoonx » 27 Oct 2017, 03:59

taketheshot56 wrote:
27 Oct 2017, 03:57
Very detailed and creative backstory I like it. +1
Thank you for the +1, happy you liked the backstory.
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Re: Va'Ja Zakaath (Playful Stalker)

Post by taketheshot56 » 27 Oct 2017, 04:01

I life the style you are going for alot
too many pred uncloak slaughter then run away. A pred who is focused on stalking his enemy until just the right moment would spice the game up alot.
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Re: Va'Ja Zakaath (Playful Stalker)

Post by Lumdor » 27 Oct 2017, 04:03

What type of fighting style are you planning on using with your pred? At what times do you plan on using your plasma caster; either against humans or xenos?
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Re: Va'Ja Zakaath (Playful Stalker)

Post by emeraldmoonx » 27 Oct 2017, 04:11

Mostly stalking. I'll stalk until I can find the opportunity when the prey is alone. The only time I'm gonna engage more than 1 is if someone gets in the way. I'll use the plasma caster occasionally when needed, probably to scare away humans, or cause some terror in groups, maybe cause them to split up as a result. So, I'll be cloaked most of the time, watching people, trying to determine who will be my target, then I'll observe that person, determine if they're "worthy", so if I see them kill Xenos and so on. I'm not going to waste my time with support roles, or passive marines since they wouldn't put up a fight. When I do fight, I'm not 100% sure as I've never played pred and I'm not sure how well I'd do with any of the weapons, so that would be something I'll evolve as I play it. Most likely use ranged weaponry at first to slow them down, then go closed ranged when they're weakened.
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Re: Va'Ja Zakaath (Playful Stalker)

Post by Lumdor » 27 Oct 2017, 04:16

emeraldmoonx wrote:
27 Oct 2017, 04:11
Mostly stalking. I'll stalk until I can find the opportunity when the prey is alone. The only time I'm gonna engage more than 1 is if someone gets in the way. I'll use the plasma caster occasionally when needed, probably to scare away humans, or cause some terror in groups, maybe cause them to split up as a result. So, I'll be cloaked most of the time, watching people, trying to determine who will be my target, then I'll observe that person, determine if they're "worthy", so if I see them kill Xenos and so on. I'm not going to waste my time with support roles, or passive marines since they wouldn't put up a fight. When I do fight, I'm not 100% sure as I've never played pred and I'm not sure how well I'd do with any of the weapons, so that would be something I'll evolve as I play it. Most likely use ranged weaponry at first to slow them down, then go closed ranged when they're weakened.
I asked about the plasma caster because I've seen many preds just spam the shit out of it and not use anything else. Your play style that you're talking about is good, and if you do get accepted I'd hope you would follow through with it.

You're a good mod, good marine, and a fun synth to play with. Take my +1, don't let me down if you become a pred ;) .

Story was also a good read.
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Re: Va'Ja Zakaath (Playful Stalker)

Post by emeraldmoonx » 27 Oct 2017, 04:27

Lumdor wrote:
27 Oct 2017, 04:16
I asked about the plasma caster because I've seen many preds just spam the shit out of it and not use anything else. Your play style that you're talking about is good, and if you do get accepted I'd hope you would follow through with it.

You're a good mod, good marine, and a fun synth to play with. Take my +1, don't let me down if you become a pred ;) .

Story was also a good read.
Oh yeah, I know what you mean. I see preds spam then too, annoying and OP.

Thanks for the +1 :].
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Re: Va'Ja Zakaath (Playful Stalker)

Post by shyshadow » 27 Oct 2017, 18:28

Okay, can I just say this before everything else. I kinda hate it when the applicant has to respond to every single +1. Like, there's no point in saying thanks to every single one. After like, IDK a week or two. Say thanks for all the support. It just fills the damn application with unnecessary responses. Unless someone gives a neutral or -1, there's no need to respond in my opinion at least.

Alright, literally in the 2nd paragraph I see a problem. There are only 4 clan members. One of them including you and the clan leader. Okay, okay, so you're telling me that there is a clan that only has 3 (excluding the clan leader) actual hunters? What in the actual fuck? Where did your fucking predator come from? Space? There's suppose to an actual populace, there can't be only 4 predators in a fucking clan! Like I know I'm acting aggressive but there's a lot of logical problems in this application.
Continuing on, I have to ask. Why is there a human on the hunting grounds they regularly go to? Did he just like blink into existence? There's no hinting on what caused them to be there, considering you literally said, "they're always hunting in the same hunting ground." So clearly there's a problem here. Call me a nit-picker but I'm calling out the amount of illogical and unrealistic shit there is in this backstory.
Apparently in the two weeks of having to wait for the human to heal up, not once did a Xeno come wandering around and instead just "happens" to come out of nowhere right when you're about to kill the human. I mean you said it yourself this is a normal hunting grounds, I would expect there would be a hive on this planet. And yet they kill the human? Instead of I don't know, capturing them? I mean they're alone, and the only one else there is a regular hunter that's always killing and hunting xenos. Also, apparently you're just able to "easily" dodge bullets. Even though he's a trained soldier, which I presuming considering you literally describe them as infact a soldier.

I can go on, and on. About how much shit there is that just does not make sense. I mean apparently you have like a bazillion hunting weapons on you. Like a Scimitar, a spear gun, a combi-stick. Like what the fuck man, are you a walking arsenal? And I know you aren't talking about wrist-blades, considering you actually say you have regular wrist-blades. Also, there are quite a bit of typos in your backstory. Which I don't care too much about but still throwing it in there.

You add too many unnecessary details, a lot of it is filler. You don't have to describe the human "that" much, it's just...augh. Also, why do you call Xenomorphs...Xenomorphs? it'd be better to just call them serpents, considering this is infact a pred app. But meh.

Also, your play-style is quite...well bland. There's not really any original concepts in your play-style. It's extremely standard, and well unless your backstory is exceptional. I don't really think it's great to be standard.

There are problems with every application, but this one has been my most. "Huh" inducing. I'm certain you can improve, but as of now. I don't find this application acceptable, I recommend you pull back in this "Ultra Snowflakey" shit. Like honestly, 4 predators...in one clan...ridiculous.
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Re: Va'Ja Zakaath (Playful Stalker)

Post by emeraldmoonx » 27 Oct 2017, 18:59

shyshadow wrote:
27 Oct 2017, 18:28
Okay, can I just say this before everything else. I kinda hate it when the applicant has to respond to every single +1. Like, there's no point in saying thanks to every single one. After like, IDK a week or two. Say thanks for all the support. It just fills the damn application with unnecessary responses. Unless someone gives a neutral or -1, there's no need to respond in my opinion at least.

Alright, literally in the 2nd paragraph I see a problem. There are only 4 clan members. One of them including you and the clan leader. Okay, okay, so you're telling me that there is a clan that only has 3 (excluding the clan leader) actual hunters? What in the actual fuck? Where did your fucking predator come from? Space? There's suppose to an actual populace, there can't be only 4 predators in a fucking clan! Like I know I'm acting aggressive but there's a lot of logical problems in this application.
Continuing on, I have to ask. Why is there a human on the hunting grounds they regularly go to? Did he just like blink into existence? There's no hinting on what caused them to be there, considering you literally said, "they're always hunting in the same hunting ground." So clearly there's a problem here. Call me a nit-picker but I'm calling out the amount of illogical and unrealistic shit there is in this backstory.
Apparently in the two weeks of having to wait for the human to heal up, not once did a Xeno come wandering around and instead just "happens" to come out of nowhere right when you're about to kill the human. I mean you said it yourself this is a normal hunting grounds, I would expect there would be a hive on this planet. And yet they kill the human? Instead of I don't know, capturing them? I mean they're alone, and the only one else there is a regular hunter that's always killing and hunting xenos. Also, apparently you're just able to "easily" dodge bullets. Even though he's a trained soldier, which I presuming considering you literally describe them as infact a soldier.

I can go on, and on. About how much shit there is that just does not make sense. I mean apparently, you have like a bazillion hunting weapons on you. Like a Scimitar, a spear gun, a combi-stick. Like what the fuck man, are you a walking arsenal? And I know you aren't talking about wrist-blades, considering you actually say you have regular wrist-blades. Also, there are quite a bit of typos in your backstory. Which I don't care too much about but still throwing it in there.

You add too many unnecessary details, a lot of it is filler. You don't have to describe the human "that" much, it's just...augh. Also, why do you call Xenomorphs...Xenomorphs? it'd be better to just call them serpents, considering this is infact a pred app. But meh.

Also, your play-style is quite...well bland. There's not really any original concepts in your play-style. It's extremely standard, and well unless your backstory is exceptional. I don't really think it's great to be standard.

There are problems with every application, but this one has been my most. "Huh" inducing. I'm certain you can improve, but as of now. I don't find this application acceptable, I recommend you pull back in this "Ultra Snowflakey" shit. Like honestly, 4 predators...in one clan...ridiculous.
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Okay, little aggressive there, I'll answer your review. Nowhere does it say a clan has to be heavily populated, it's entirely up to the clan leader how many predators are part of the clan. A small clan is just as likely considering how powerful predators are, there's no need for a huge clan. This is my choice and really I don't see it as being an issue. Also, I answer to every person to give my appreciation for their review and the time taken, you're so far rude for no reason. If you're not here to give constructive criticism, don't bother.

Humans are regularly brought to hunting grounds as prey, it's been done many times before, and as I said he's been surviving when I found him. When I said the same hunting ground I mean when they do hunt, they hunt together in the same area but split apart. Not in the literal same planet every single time, that's your misinterpretation. The Xeno was planted there to test me, there isn't a hive on the planet, and it was deliberately set up that way to see how I would react. Predators are well-trained soldiers, they're able to move much faster than humans are the human who was shooting wasn't trained to handle the physical capabilities of predators. I'm able to move fast and he's not able to catch up as he wasn't prepared for the agility of a predator. Also, it was never specified what caste the Xeno is. I never said it's a drone, and most likely since it went straight for the kill, it's a lone Xenomorph. It kills because it has no hive, no queen, and thus no reason to breed.

To move on a young blood has a complimentary of weapons, the fact that you even question this shows your lack of knowledge of predator equipment and weaponry. In actuality, the weapons I've mentioned were only about half of what the predator is capable of using. I really only mentioned 3 weapons, which is more than realistic for a predator to carry. They're called xenomorphs because the story isn't done in first person perspective of my character and reads more like a story. So I decided to call them xenomorphs over serpents.

Playstyle wise, I didn't believe I needed something crazy or snowflakey... Predators are hunters that have been hunting for eons and train their young using methods and techniques learned and refined over countless years. The fact is, most predators will fight similar, as they all have similar technology. It's like having soldiers in say the Navy and expecting every single one to fight totally different when each one had the same training.

Simply put, I gladly accept criticism. You, however, are seemingly extremely aggressive, and rude. You don't offer any criticism and simply choose to spit on any effort I've put. I don't pretend my application is good, or even perfect, hell no. However, many of your points are moot and seem like you're just ranting. Also a note on grammar, my grammar isn't perfect. I write pretty fluently and I tend to stick with what I write then double-check my stuff. My grammar isn't bad in any way either. The story is long, I tried to put many details, yet you're saying I'm lacking in certain areas, and I've added too many "fillers". I'm aware the story is long, and yes it probably has too much stuff, but that's how I wrote it. You say my playstyle is bland and I need more details, yet my application is "ultra snowflakey'... right.

Overall you're making too many assumptions, and you seem misinformed on many things. You should be careful to give advice to people when you clearly are lacking in knowledge yourself. I'm respectful to those who deserve it, and your attitude tells me you clearly have none. I in no way have a grudge towards you. I accept that anyone and everyone is allowed to give criticism. I'm willing to accept criticism as long as it's exactly that, criticism. You did have good points in parts, some parts simply felt like you shitting all over something, and being disrespectful at the same time.

Thanks anyways.
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Post by Shyguychizzy » 28 Oct 2017, 00:22

Before I do fully go indepth just from looking at it, it does look quite well made application. How recent were you a staff or becoming noticed a Full Staff? It may sound a bit oddish asking but not assuming however unsure if this is known to many others or those unaware. "Just a disclaimer not necessarily rule law or words, just to clarify just something that has popped or has happened, and been in consideration." Its highly frowned upon for brand newish staff or recent accepted staff as you know, despite rank and yada yada won't help with getting the role presumably already knew however not assuming just became staff for pred. Due to past issues regarding staffs becoming staff then becoming predators, not basing of bias but has been something as Predo and previous staff experience and experience of many apps just for consideration.I do wonder what's you intake on this, for time being I necessarily won't be giving a negative one but will be at later note thoroughly look through this app...at a later note that is.

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Re: Va'Ja Zakaath (Playful Stalker)

Post by emeraldmoonx » 28 Oct 2017, 00:58

Shyguychizzy wrote:
28 Oct 2017, 00:22
Before I do fully go indepth just from looking at it, it does look quite well made application. How recent were you a staff or becoming noticed a Full Staff? It may sound a bit oddish asking but not assuming however unsure if this is known to many others or those unaware. "Just a disclaimer not necessarily rule law or words, just to clarify just something that has popped or has happened, and been in consideration." Its highly frowned upon for brand newish staff or recent accepted staff as you know, despite rank and yada yada won't help with getting the role presumably already knew however not assuming just became staff for pred. Due to past issues regarding staffs becoming staff then becoming predators, not basing of bias but has been something as Predo and previous staff experience and experience of many apps just for consideration.I do wonder what's you intake on this, for time being I necessarily won't be giving a negative one but will be at later note thoroughly look through this app...at a later note that is.

(Any others may expand on this matter whether higher ups or their thoughts)
I got accepted as a trial mod on the first of October. I'm currently still a trial. I'm very well aware that my rank will not give me any special privileges to be being accepted, and I'm totally fine with that. I did my best to make my app, and whether I was a player or a mod, I'd have put the same amount.

I only started my application now, I've been playing CM for a long time, and I've been hesitant to even try. I'm aware that predator is highly scrutinized, so I've finally got the courage to apply. As a reference, I did apply for synthetic before I was a mod, and got accepted. So this isn't an issue.

If I'm denied, it won't matter no matter my rank. I guarantee you that Feweh/Apophis doesn't give a shit about my rank when it comes to whitelist and will be entirely unbiased.

Here's my synthetic app if you're interested as a reference, I'll also link my staff app, so you can check the dates. If you have anything else to add/ask about, go ahead. I understand your concern.
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Re: Va'Ja Zakaath (Playful Stalker)

Post by shyshadow » 28 Oct 2017, 01:45

Youch, didn't know being abrasive is disrespectful.
Seriously though, you're honestly telling me that the soldier didn't land a single shot? From short range? I don't know man not like you're invisible, like preds are fast but I didn't know this was the matrix. More than not other applicants have been criticized for having for having this kind of stuff happening in their backstory. It'd be unfair not to point it out, predators are fast, don't get me wrong. I know my shit, but no way is someone that inaccurate. Enough to dodge a barrage of bullets? No way, sorry but I'm telling you. No. At least one would hit you. Ain't no protagonist protection should exist in your backstory.

Also, while I accept the misinterpretation. I still have a problem. How did they get a xeno? Same goes for the human. While yes, predators do some F'd up shit, do you mean to tell me your clan of 4 captured the human without your pred knowing about it? Not only do they need to capture the human, they also have to breed a xeno. Which again, I'd have to assume your "clan" would only have a migratory ship considering there's only like 4. So it'd be nearly impossible for you to not know they planned to test you. I just feel like that there's very little certainty when you wrote this backstory. Too many questions pop into my mind which I dislike from backstories.

Also, if you REALLY want to drop the lore bomb. You're criticizing someone that spent an entire month editing and researching for my app. I know what I'm talking about. I'm not saying I can't be wrong, but you're insulting me when I know for a fact, I'm not "lacking" as you put it. I'm defending what I know; while I admit that I kinda just threw the number of weapons. I don't think a Young-Blood should be allowed to bring two Combi-Sticks, I mean he's basically armed with shit that'd make his first hunt easy. Which it shouldn't, nor should the xeno finally appear at the precise moment you're about to kill the human. Which is super cheesy, even for me. I still have to ask, does he have regular wrist blades or scimitars? Because it says he like unsheathes his wrist blades or what not, but then he uses a scimitar. And if it's the scimitar blades, well I doubt they'd allow an unblooded to have them. And if you REALLY want to get real, I was told by a fellow Pred that unblooded aren't even allowed to have any other melee weapons except their wrist blades. And I didn't really question it considering he's quite experienced, though they're an Ex-Pred now due to inactivity; Nonetheless, I'd believe his statement.

Another thing that leaves me questioning, why is the human injured in the first place? He clearly hadn't had a run in with the xeno, because well he'd be dead. If your clan leader planned to test you why not tell you? It's just an odd tradition, like that's why I said "Ultra Snowflake" you're bound to be questioned on these questionable things within your clan. Not only based on lore, but logicality of it. While I get being different is good, don't overextend it, unless you're certain to your very core that it's legitimate. In all honestly, I very much disliked liked your attitude towards me. I very much dislike that you went full of "Don't be rude". I was aggressive and annoyed by how much I had to think of ways to explain your inconsistencies. I was "shitting" on you're app because it made me think too much.

You're the damn applicant, if someone is being passive aggressive, fucking deal with it. You're the applicant, so you have to face the fact that the reviewer doesn't revolve around you. I don't have to conform to you because I could give a penny to how much I care. But then, you go off on the "You're making too many assumptions" that's like...why? No shit I'm gonna making assumptions, I'm analyzing your backstory and making sure it ain't broke. It's not my fault that I'm assuming the phrase "they're always hunting in the same hunting ground" that's like. How could not misinterpret that? It's not clear as day, the wording is off and that's why I said your grammar was off. There are a handful of mistakes that I saw, a lot of them were word choice and typos. Also, when I said too many details, I meant that it just made the story longer than it needed to be. Like it was unnecessary, while I have no problem with lengthy backstories it was just info that didn't add a whole lot to the story. It's like explaining the plot of a book, you don't add EVERY detail, just the overall idea and shit.

I'm honestly not feeling your type, because I didn't really say anything literally negative towards you. It's not like I said "This is fucking garbage" I was using emphasizing words to get how much I am confused. Also, I hate how you used "disrespectful." Like, dude. Respect? I know I'm coming off as a dick, but there was another application quite similar in quality to yours. And the applicant responded to a reviewer, and it was nearly identical to your response, the reviewer was a lot more passive aggressive than I was. Know what happened to them? Full U-turn on everyone's opinion on the applicant. Just please man, like think for a good minute about what I said. I wasn't going after you on a personal level, it's just your application genuinely annoyed me. I mean hell my 2nd app had a lot of loose ends but I learned from it, it made sense in my own head at the time. But as I reflect, it was kinda stupid.

Also, originality! When I say your hunting style is bland, it's just not insanely different from many others. Predators do this all the time, if anything you should just say you're going to be pretty standard in terms of hunting. And there's nothing wrong with that but yet again. I have to say, "As long as you got a really solid backstory, I'm fine with it. If it ain't well..." Not only that but your pred is meh in regards to personality. Like, you think humans aren't that interesting. Okay? It's not really too special, a lot of predators think humans are scum. So it's just mush. Even if "coming with a new fresh way to hunt is difficult" it doesn't matter. You're the applicant, deal with the difficulty of being accepted.

I respect your effort, I really do. But just claiming the reviewer is incapable of reviewing rather than providing a counter claim and leaving it at that. Is just, why? It makes you out to be sensitive and lame. You should just acknowledge them and provide an explanation to their arguments to try and persuade them, or at least put them at ease. But you clearly put a lot of blame of my points onto me.

I still don't think you're ready for the hunt.
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Re: Va'Ja Zakaath (Playful Stalker)

Post by emeraldmoonx » 28 Oct 2017, 02:09

shyshadow wrote:
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Youch, didn't know being abrasive is disrespectful.
Seriously though, you're honestly telling me that the soldier didn't land a single shot? From short range? I don't know man not like you're invisible, like preds are fast but I didn't know this was the matrix. More than not other applicants have been criticized for having for having this kind of stuff happening in their backstory. It'd be unfair not to point it out, predators are fast, don't get me wrong. I know my shit, but no way is someone that inaccurate. Enough to dodge a barrage of bullets? No way, sorry but I'm telling you. No. At least one would hit you. Ain't no protagonist protection should exist in your backstory.

Also, while I accept the misinterpretation. I still have a problem. How did they get a xeno? Same goes for the human. While yes, predators do some F'd up shit, do you mean to tell me your clan of 4 captured the human without your pred knowing about it? Not only do they need to capture the human, they also have to breed a xeno. Which again, I'd have to assume your "clan" would only have a migratory ship considering there's only like 4. So it'd be nearly impossible for you to not know they planned to test you. I just feel like that there's very little certainty when you wrote this backstory. Too many questions pop into my mind which I dislike from backstories.

Also, if you REALLY want to drop the lore bomb. You're criticizing someone that spent an entire month editing and researching for my app. I know what I'm talking about. I'm not saying I can't be wrong, but you're insulting me when I know for a fact, I'm not "lacking" as you put it. I'm defending what I know; while I admit that I kinda just threw the number of weapons. I don't think a Young-Blood should be allowed to bring two Combi-Sticks, I mean he's basically armed with shit that'd make his first hunt easy. Which it shouldn't, nor should the xeno finally appear at the precise moment you're about to kill the human. Which is super cheesy, even for me. I still have to ask, does he have regular wrist blades or scimitars? Because it says he like unsheathes his wrist blades or what not, but then he uses a scimitar. And if it's the scimitar blades, well I doubt they'd allow an unblooded to have them. And if you REALLY want to get real, I was told by a fellow Pred that unblooded aren't even allowed to have any other melee weapons except their wrist blades. And I didn't really question it considering he's quite experienced, though they're an Ex-Pred now due to inactivity; Nonetheless, I'd believe his statement.

Another thing that leaves me questioning, why is the human injured in the first place? He clearly hadn't had a run in with the xeno, because well he'd be dead. If your clan leader planned to test you why not tell you? It's just an odd tradition, like that's why I said "Ultra Snowflake" you're bound to be questioned on these questionable things within your clan. Not only based on lore, but logicality of it. While I get being different is good, don't overextend it, unless you're certain to your very core that it's legitimate. In all honestly, I very much disliked liked your attitude towards me. I very much dislike that you went full of "Don't be rude". I was aggressive and annoyed by how much I had to think of ways to explain your inconsistencies. I was "shitting" on you're app because it made me think too much.

You're the damn applicant, if someone is being passive aggressive, fucking deal with it. You're the applicant, so you have to face the fact that the reviewer doesn't revolve around you. I don't have to conform to you because I could give a penny to how much I care. But then, you go off on the "You're making too many assumptions" that's like...why? No shit I'm gonna making assumptions, I'm analyzing your backstory and making sure it ain't broke. It's not my fault that I'm assuming the phrase "they're always hunting in the same hunting ground" that's like. How could not misinterpret that? It's not clear as day, the wording is off and that's why I said your grammar was off. There are a handful of mistakes that I saw, a lot of them were word choice and typos. Also, when I said too many details, I meant that it just made the story longer than it needed to be. Like it was unnecessary, while I have no problem with lengthy backstories it was just info that didn't add a whole lot to the story. It's like explaining the plot of a book, you don't add EVERY detail, just the overall idea and shit.

I'm honestly not feeling your type, because I didn't really say anything literally negative towards you. It's not like I said "This is fucking garbage" I was using emphasizing words to get how much I am confused. Also, I hate how you used "disrespectful." Like, dude. Respect? I know I'm coming off as a dick, but there was another application quite similar in quality to yours. And the applicant responded to a reviewer, and it was nearly identical to your response, the reviewer was a lot more passive aggressive than I was. Know what happened to them? Full U-turn on everyone's opinion on the applicant. Just please man, like think for a good minute about what I said. I wasn't going after you on a personal level, it's just your application genuinely annoyed me. I mean hell my 2nd app had a lot of loose ends but I learned from it, it made sense in my own head at the time. But as I reflect, it was kinda stupid.

I respect your effort, I really do. But just claiming the reviewer is incapable of reviewing rather than providing a counter claim and leaving it at that. Is just, why? It makes you out to be sensitive and lame. You should just acknowledge them and provide an explanation to their arguments to try and persuade them, or at least put them at ease. But you clearly put a lot of blame of my points onto me.

I still don't think you're ready for the hunt.
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I did admit you had some good points, but I still regardless feel you were rude and some of your points weren't solid. Your original response was very aggressive, read it and realize that. It made too much use of swear words and exclamations. Your overall way of writing came off as that way.

Now for the first part, indeed I didn't think about the shooting. I didn't take much effort as it would've added more story/content to an already long story. You're indeed right, a predator is quick but this isn't the matrix. I agree with you on this.

A lot of details were added without explaining too much as this would once again, add more to the story. I'm already at 8 paragraphs, and made the choice to try and limit details to not go overboard. I understand the plot holes and questions in your mind. Of course there's things that were explained, "how did the xeno suddenly appear" and so on. I can personally clarify for you if that's what you'd like once you respond to me. I can come up with more details. For now, unfortunately it is what it is.

Unblooded predators have more limitations to their equipment compared to young bloods. They're different, and have different equipment. A young blood is allowed the use of most equipment, while a unblooded for example is not allowed the use of scimitars or plasma caster. In my story, Va'ja is a young blood, so he is authorized to use it. Regarding the capture of a xeno/human, once again, I didn't add details to this, as it would've required a significant amount of extra details to be added to my story. I didn't 100% think it through when I chose the size of the clan, and I'm assuming that for even a single pred, capturing a human is easy work. With a small clan of 4 [minus Va'ja, as he didn't know], it wouldn't be too hard to apprehend a lone xeno either. All they had to do was capture on of each and bring it to the hunt site.

The status of the human is unknown. It IS a jungle world, filled with natural wildlife. Potentially he was harmed by a natural predator and managed to survive. I don't think this requires much explaining or much of a backstory for it. I don't mean to insult you, but you also insulted me yourself by making your own accusations. I also did research, and I didn't choose the weapons for Va'ja simply cause I could. I carefully considered what a young blood COULD use, and what he would realistically be able to carry. In this case, I chose that he'd have wristblades, 2 combisticks, a scimitar, and mines. This isn't crazy to assume a predator would bring so much, is it? It's a safe bet to bring surplus equipment in the hunt, to be careful.

Once again you're deciding to be rude. Look here, just cause you're reviewing someone, you don't get to be a dick. It's common sense to have some decency and respect for the person you're reviewing. You don't NEED to shit on people for their hard work. I don't care if you had to "think" too hard, suck it up. If you're unable to review without being a dick, don't bother. I don't have to kindly bend over and take whatever you give simply cause I'm applying. I owe nothing to you, I'm an applicant, yes, and who the hell are you? You're simply a forum user, reviewing my application. Seems to me you think you have a right to be rude, well you don't.

I have no issue dealing with criticism, even if its bad. However, I DON'T have to deal with your piss poor attitude and your complete lack of respect. Any lack of respect on my side is directly due to your attitude in the first place. If you don't like my response, you shouldn't have started an issue originally. Change your attitude or don't bother coming here, I would have never said anything remotely rude if you had shown me respect in the first place. Being a reviewer doesn't give you special rights, understand that.

Change your attitude or I'll be making a report. I may have been a dick, but I'm only responding to the BS you're feeding me yourself. You want to give me criticism? I welcome it but do it in a better way. I'm in no way sensitive, but I'm a big believer of respect. If someone lacks respect, then I literally see no more reason to give any to that person.

NOW, I can forgive any attitude/lack of respect you've had towards me. I can be an adult and move on, I hope you can forgive any lack of respect on my part too, and anything I've said to insult you. I make myself very clear in these matters. I hope we can move on from this. I have no more interest in arguing further, it's petty of us to have come to this point and it really paints us in a bad picture.

I respect your opinion as a user on this forum, and if you wish to give constructive criticism, then I'm here. I have no issue with failing this predator application. Indeed as you say, it has many plot holes and it might need to be refined for the next time. If you'd like for me to add details to any part, I'll be able to do so when you ask for it.

Once again, I apologize for where this has led us, and I hope we can move on and that you hold no ill-will towards me.
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Post by Shyguychizzy » 29 Oct 2017, 23:21

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28 Oct 2017, 02:09
I did admit you had some good points, but I still regardless feel you were rude and some of your points weren't solid. Your original response was very aggressive, read it and realize that. It made too much use of swear words and exclamations. Your overall way of writing came off as that way.

Once again you're deciding to be rude. Look here, just cause you're reviewing someone, you don't get to be a dick. It's common sense to have some decency and respect for the person you're reviewing. You don't NEED to shit on people for their hard work. I don't care if you had to "think" too hard, suck it up. If you're unable to review without being a dick, don't bother. I don't have to kindly bend over and take whatever you give simply cause I'm applying. I owe nothing to you, I'm an applicant, yes, and who the hell are you? You're simply a forum user, reviewing my application. Seems to me you think you have a right to be rude, well you don't.

I have no issue dealing with criticism, even if its bad. However, I DON'T have to deal with your piss poor attitude and your complete lack of respect. Any lack of respect on my side is directly due to your attitude in the first place. If you don't like my response, you shouldn't have started an issue originally. Change your attitude or don't bother coming here, I would have never said anything remotely rude if you had shown me respect in the first place. Being a reviewer doesn't give you special rights, understand that.

Change your attitude or I'll be making a report. I may have been a dick, but I'm only responding to the BS you're feeding me yourself. You want to give me criticism? I welcome it but do it in a better way. I'm in no way sensitive, but I'm a big believer of respect. If someone lacks respect, then I literally see no more reason to give any to that person.

NOW, I can forgive any attitude/lack of respect you've had towards me. I can be an adult and move on, I hope you can forgive any lack of respect on my part too, and anything I've said to insult you. I make myself very clear in these matters. I hope we can move on from this. I have no more interest in arguing further, it's petty of us to have come to this point and it really paints us in a bad picture.

I respect your opinion as a user on this forum, and if you wish to give constructive criticism, then I'm here. I have no issue with failing this predator application. Indeed as you say, it has many plot holes and it might need to be refined for the next time. If you'd like for me to add details to any part, I'll be able to do so when you ask for it.

Once again, I apologize for where this has led us, and I hope we can move on and that you hold no ill-will towards me.
This be very true, ShyShadow's reviews are quote serious but has valid points though seems rough/ rude as you may put it. Even from stand point of a experience predator or just a oldie or even average player, the reaction even if lengthy, severe, rude, harsh, or whatever it may be it is your job of course to a certain extent react. However, the approach or reaction quite is off putting. Though quite sincere with an apology to look over such, why include the harsh remark? It seems rather redundant if i am honest, its good there's an apology but really? It seems off putting just reading that remark, indeed review might be rude, harsh or just nonsense but it is a review. Honestly, just from reading this little interaction from Shyshadow was majorly of putting and reconsidering due to the reaction. From what I am getting from this you just insulted the reviewer for giving their input despite its lengthy, dickish, rude, quote on quote "Pissy Attitude" as you word it. All applications will have these regardless, negative reviews or positives, this was first negative of an honest from their critique or their thoughts.

Another factor, its a bit more rude to openly just say well aware of your position but such remark as so threatening to make a player report because a singular post was maybe honest or just for you dickish or too much? Don't wanna rub off as a rude guy but all reviews can and be valid but to threaten a reviewer though brash or rough, its off putting. We don't just judge applications you do realize that right? Its additionally the reaction how the applicant as brutal honest or as harsh they may seem still in fact have a say in the matter. Their negatives still add up despite harshness or whatnot of what may been the concern.

I do agree Shyshadow's remark may be quite rude but you do realize you can choose to just accept rude remarks and go on? Can disagree but doesn't mean have to fight rude with ruder remarks. Its like someone goes in with fire and burns you, what do you do? Bring even more fire to counter their fire? Nope. You simply resolve it that's it. You chose to become remotely rude or reacted to it likewise. Don't have to bend over to Shyshadow's will or follow in their ways but gotta respect the fact they are your reviewers despite their rude remarks or respect. Just gonna leave that bit for there.

The whole four man clan thing as for me is questionable but rather not go further on that. Might make sense hunting party matter but eh.

From this little interaction, and just responses I am have concluded and decided -1 for time being, and for such a response, and reaction. Story might been really in depth and detailed but the attitude really threw me off.

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Re: Va'Ja Zakaath (Playful Stalker)

Post by emeraldmoonx » 29 Oct 2017, 23:38

Shyguychizzy wrote:
29 Oct 2017, 23:21
This be very true, ShyShadow's reviews are quote serious but has valid points though seems rough/ rude as you may put it. Even from stand point of a experience predator or just a oldie or even average player, the reaction even if lengthy, severe, rude, harsh, or whatever it may be it is your job of course to a certain extent react. However, the approach or reaction quite is off putting. Though quite sincere with an apology to look over such, why include the harsh remark? It seems rather redundant if i am honest, its good there's an apology but really? It seems off putting just reading that remark, indeed review might be rude, harsh or just nonsense but it is a review. Honestly, just from reading this little interaction from Shyshadow was majorly of putting and reconsidering due to the reaction. From what I am getting from this you just insulted the reviewer for giving their input despite its lengthy, dickish, rude, quote on quote "Pissy Attitude" as you word it. All applications will have these regardless, negative reviews or positives, this was first negative of an honest from their critique or their thoughts.

Another factor, its a bit more rude to openly just say well aware of your position but such remark as so threatening to make a player report because a singular post was maybe honest or just for you dickish or too much? Don't wanna rub off as a rude guy but all reviews can and be valid but to threaten a reviewer though brash or rough, its off putting. We don't just judge applications you do realize that right? Its additionally the reaction how the applicant as brutal honest or as harsh they may seem still in fact have a say in the matter. Their negatives still add up despite harshness or whatnot of what may been the concern.

I do agree Shyshadow's remark may be quite rude but you do realize you can choose to just accept rude remarks and go on? Can disagree but doesn't mean have to fight rude with ruder remarks. Its like someone goes in with fire and burns you, what do you do? Bring even more fire to counter their fire? Nope. You simply resolve it that's it. You chose to become remotely rude or reacted to it likewise. Don't have to bend over to Shyshadow's will or follow in their ways but gotta respect the fact they are your reviewers despite their rude remarks or respect. Just gonna leave that bit for there.

The whole four man clan thing as for me is questionable but rather not go further on that. Might make sense hunting party matter but eh.

From this little interaction, and just responses I am have concluded and decided -1 for time being, and for such a response, and reaction. Story might been really in depth and detailed but the attitude really threw me off.

- Ka'Torag-na Halkrath
Indeed, I reacted poorly and shouldn't have done so. That's why I apologized after. I had no intention to continue arguing and it was immature of me to react like so. The review itself wasnt the issue and he has the right to pick apart my application. I just didn't like the attitude so I responded in kind. I did apologize, but what do you mean by the harsh remark? I ask you consider ignoring my past attitude as this was a mistake and I apologized to him twice. I can be defensive as I tend to take a "take no shit from anyone" stance often.

I'm aware 100% I should have been more calm and would like to apologize to shyshadow again for my poor reaction. I'll also apologize to you and anyone else who read the argument. It wasn't the place for it.

The reporting part had nothing to do with my position and would have been done officially if the issue kept going in. It's a mistake to mention something like that in my last response to him. You'd be surprised to know that I edited the 2nd message quite a bit after as it was way ruder than it is now.

I do respect his opinion, and I understand he has a right to judge me as well. I didn't have the right mindset and realized this myself shortly after. Hence my originally apology and this reply as well.

I'm not 100% sure on the clan size. Looking back it might be too small, but now it's done and I stand by my choice.

I hope you can accept this response and apology and change your mind. I don't want to offend or be a dick to anyone. I plan to be here for a long time. Whatever you choose, I'll understand and respect that opinion.

Thanks.
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Re: Va'Ja Zakaath (Playful Stalker)

Post by Shyguychizzy » 29 Oct 2017, 23:49

emeraldmoonx wrote:
29 Oct 2017, 23:38
Indeed, I reacted poorly and shouldn't have done so. That's why I apologized after. I had no intention to continue arguing and it was immature of me to react like so. The review itself wasnt the issue and he has the right to pick apart my application. I just didn't like the attitude so I responded in kind. I did apologize, but what do you mean by the harsh remark? I ask you consider ignoring my past attitude as this was a mistake and I apologized to him twice. I can be defensive as I tend to take a "take no shit from anyone" stance often.

I'm aware 100% I should have been more calm and would like to apologize to shyguyshadow again for my poor reaction. I'll also apologize to you and anyone else who read the argument. It wasn't the place for it.

The reporting part had nothing to do with my position and would have been done officially if the issue kept going in. It's a mistake to mention something like that in my last response to him. You'd be surprised to know that I edited the 2nd message quite a bit after as it was way ruder than it is now.

I do respect his opinion, and I understand he has a right to judge me as well. I didn't have the right mindset and realized this myself shortly after. Hence my originally apology and this reply as well.

I'm not 100% sure on the clan size. Looking back it might be too small, but now it's done and I stand by my choice.

I hope you can accept this response and apology and change your mind. I don't want to offend or be a dick to anyone. I plan to be here for a long time. Whatever you choose, I'll understand and respect that opinion.

Thanks.
Now that's a response, do acknowledge the apology which in hindsight is good thing and another thing mentioning you of staff that wasn't the reference i tried referring to due to your position. Just the threat of player report got to me. Do accept this response but still stand by on my Negative One however.
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Post by emeraldmoonx » 29 Oct 2017, 23:52

Shyguychizzy wrote:
29 Oct 2017, 23:49
Now that's a response, do acknowledge the apology which in hindsight is good thing and another thing mentioning you of staff that wasn't the reference i tried referring to due to your position. Just the threat of player report got to me. Do accept this response but still stand by on my Negative One however.
Thank you. The report was taking it too far. I won't delete or alter my post to cover my ass. Not who I am. I respect your rating and it's understandable. Have a good day.
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Post by Blade2000Br » 30 Oct 2017, 12:53

I was reading through the apps and wanted to comment, but then saw this...

Moonx, no offense, but you are on the wrong here. You threatned someone making a critique on you, even though the amount of dickish was not necessary you can't simply do that in a app.

Imagine if you were applying to mod, and a mod wanted to test you by being a dick in your app and you treated him like that? This would look bad to you.

The one that is critising have all the right to act as he see fit, is the applicant that gotta avoid the bait to not get caught in a situation like this.
I will be real, if you acted like that to one peraon that is critising, I imagine how you would deal with a entire playerbase that hates you as a predator, that harass you IC and OOC just for being there.
Meta targetting and even powergaming to see you fall.

Honestly, I like you as a person and nod, but don't think you can be a bredator just yet. Maybe sometime to cool off would be good. -1 from now. Sorry.
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Post by emeraldmoonx » 30 Oct 2017, 14:42

BladeBr wrote:
30 Oct 2017, 12:53
I was reading through the apps and wanted to comment, but then saw this...

Moonx, no offense, but you are on the wrong here. You threatned someone making a critique on you, even though the amount of dickish was not necessary you can't simply do that in a app.

Imagine if you were applying to mod, and a mod wanted to test you by being a dick in your app and you treated him like that? This would look bad to you.

The one that is critising have all the right to act as he see fit, is the applicant that gotta avoid the bait to not get caught in a situation like this.
I will be real, if you acted like that to one peraon that is critising, I imagine how you would deal with a entire playerbase that hates you as a predator, that harass you IC and OOC just for being there.
Meta targetting and even powergaming to see you fall.

Honestly, I like you as a person and nod, but don't think you can be a bredator just yet. Maybe sometime to cool off would be good. -1 from now. Sorry.
I am in the wrong, no doubt. I regret threatening him, it was totally out of line and my attitude/reaction to his original review is way off. No worries man, I like you too, don't gotta be sorry. You're right, and it's fine that you're choosing to -1. Thank you for looking at my app regardless, appreciate it.
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Re: Va'Ja Zakaath (Playful Stalker)

Post by Emeraldblood » 30 Oct 2017, 20:25

This application sure has some ups and downs. Now as a disclaimer, I know Moon as a fellow staff member and I helped teach him about being a moderator so there is possibly an underlying bias towards him but I'll attempt to be as honest as possible about this (though you can't dodge the bonus points for being a fellow Emerald :cutewink:). I'm not here on request and am looking through predator application on my own time, as I'm looking into applying in the future. I'm also not a Yautja-connoisseur so I may make lack some more common knowledge on the subject, though I have been reading into the lore. Onto the review itself.

So the application itself was pretty good in my opinion. The story had a few plot holes but I'll only touch on one to keep it simple. I don't really understand why Va'Ja Zakaath is hunting in a place that lacks both Human and Xeno in it. Being he was doing his hunt to possibly become blooded, you would think he would have been sent to a place that at least had the possibility for worthy prey in it. I assume it was so he could do his hunt that the clan prepared without too many external forces? It had a few other things but for the most part, I feel like it's solid enough for the application. The clan seems pretty small, but I don't see why it's really a problem, personally. I mean a clan could start out small and grow over time and it would still be able to function at a smaller size. I also like the notion of inciting fear in his prey, though I don't know how legit Yautja toying with their prey is, I still think it's cool.

Well onto the elephant in the room, the debate between Moon and ShyShadow. While I'd agree that Shadow was voicing his concerns in a rather rude and insulting way, I think Moon should have just ignored him for the most part. There are always going to be people who are rude about stuff you do and the best thing you can do is just push them aside and ignore them. While the first response can be seen as more of a knee-jerk response, which is understandable when someone is attacking something you put a good deal of effort into, it really should have ended after the first response. The second response is what pushed this into dangerous terrain. While Shadow still kept his snarky comments, this isn't valid grounds to try to strong-arm him into apologizing. Moon did say sorry for his actions and he owned up to his mistakes so I will give him that.

So far, I like the application itself but the debate as a whole weakens the application a good deal. I don't want to place a negative vote as of now as I feel like Moon can still redeem this. So @Emeraldmoonx, what's a strong reasoning that I should give you a positive vote for being able to play as a predator on the server?
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Re: Va'Ja Zakaath (Playful Stalker)

Post by emeraldmoonx » 30 Oct 2017, 22:12

To respond to the plot part first. I mentioned somewhere in my story that the clan leader doesn't particularly like how Va'ja hunts. He thinks that predators should be more calm and logical in their actions. Va'ja is almost blood-thirsty and gets a sick joy out of torturing his prey. Like a cat playing with the mouse before killing it [can't think of anything else]. This has led to the clan leader withholding to let Va'ja complete his initiation ritual like most young blood eventually go through. Although I didn't add this in the story, eventually the clan leader does decide to test Va'ja but doesn't let him know. Their normal hunting ground is often seeded by the Zakaath clan, bringing new humans and rarely, Xenos as well. They're not a big clan, so they don't need a densely populated hunting ground, and they often visit this one. It's uninhabited, and no other clan comes there to challenge the territory, so it's ideal for a tiny clan. In the case of the instance where Va'ja is brought alone, this was just a way to test how Va'ja would fare versus a soldier and a Xeno at the same time. Kel'to wasn't expecting Va'ja to succeed in killing the Xeno and was surprised upon his return with the head of the Xeno he'd slain. In a way, you're right, they are training him to hunt alone. A small clan such as theirs will often be split and unable to cooperate if they're all hunting individually. So Va'ja must be strong and able to fight on his own.

The part of inciting fear is a pretty common aspect of predator hunting styles. It helps separate groups, and make the prey easier to target. Va'ja just likes to go a little further [if possible] and tortures his prey with mental warfare.

Now on to the pressing issue. Indeed the issue should have been ignored, I got overly sensitive to his attitude and responded in a way that is unbecoming of what a staff should be. That's why I tried to apologize quickly after, I started to realize I'd gone too far. I did apologize to shyshadow 2 times, then apologizes to the people reading twice as well.

To defend my side as you've asked. This incident is a rare occurrence for me. I don't usually let people affect me, and I'm usually the most chill guy you'll ever meet. I don't get riled up, and I'm really hard to anger. I'm normally always calm and nice 99% of the time. Fact is, I'm a good player, a good person, and in my opinion a good staff member. I love this community and have no intention of dirtying my name with arguments such as these. I was immature in my reaction, and I shouldn't have even touched upon the subject. I've always wanted to be a predator since I first started seeing them a while ago. I thought they were amazing and they're such a unique RP opportunity. I love to RP, I'm already whitelisted as a Synth and it's a really unique experience to play as one. I know I'd absolutely love predator, all their rules and the code of honor makes for a totally different style of gameplay compared to anything else CM has to offer.

To simply put, this won't happen again. I definitely won't let anyone down as I've never broken rules [on purpose] and I always play with other people in mind. I love to RP, I always have, these whitelist roles are just a better/more fun way of achieving it.

I hope anyone else who posts after can bear this in mind, and move on from my petty argument.

Thank you.
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Re: Va'Ja Zakaath (Playful Stalker)

Post by Symbiosis » 01 Nov 2017, 10:14

emeraldmoonx wrote:
30 Oct 2017, 22:12
To respond to the plot part first. I mentioned somewhere in my story that the clan leader doesn't particularly like how Va'ja hunts. He thinks that predators should be more calm and logical in their actions. Va'ja is almost blood-thirsty and gets a sick joy out of torturing his prey. Like a cat playing with the mouse before killing it [can't think of anything else]. This has led to the clan leader withholding to let Va'ja complete his initiation ritual like most young blood eventually go through. Although I didn't add this in the story, eventually the clan leader does decide to test Va'ja but doesn't let him know. Their normal hunting ground is often seeded by the Zakaath clan, bringing new humans and rarely, Xenos as well. They're not a big clan, so they don't need a densely populated hunting ground, and they often visit this one. It's uninhabited, and no other clan comes there to challenge the territory, so it's ideal for a tiny clan. In the case of the instance where Va'ja is brought alone, this was just a way to test how Va'ja would fare versus a soldier and a Xeno at the same time. Kel'to wasn't expecting Va'ja to succeed in killing the Xeno and was surprised upon his return with the head of the Xeno he'd slain. In a way, you're right, they are training him to hunt alone. A small clan such as theirs will often be split and unable to cooperate if they're all hunting individually. So Va'ja must be strong and able to fight on his own.

The part of inciting fear is a pretty common aspect of predator hunting styles. It helps separate groups, and make the prey easier to target. Va'ja just likes to go a little further [if possible] and tortures his prey with mental warfare.

Now on to the pressing issue. Indeed the issue should have been ignored, I got overly sensitive to his attitude and responded in a way that is unbecoming of what a staff should be. That's why I tried to apologize quickly after, I started to realize I'd gone too far. I did apologize to shyshadow 2 times, then apologizes to the people reading twice as well.

To defend my side as you've asked. This incident is a rare occurrence for me. I don't usually let people affect me, and I'm usually the most chill guy you'll ever meet. I don't get riled up, and I'm really hard to anger. I'm normally always calm and nice 99% of the time. Fact is, I'm a good player, a good person, and in my opinion a good staff member. I love this community and have no intention of dirtying my name with arguments such as these. I was immature in my reaction, and I shouldn't have even touched upon the subject. I've always wanted to be a predator since I first started seeing them a while ago. I thought they were amazing and they're such a unique RP opportunity. I love to RP, I'm already whitelisted as a Synth and it's a really unique experience to play as one. I know I'd absolutely love predator, all their rules and the code of honor makes for a totally different style of gameplay compared to anything else CM has to offer.

To simply put, this won't happen again. I definitely won't let anyone down as I've never broken rules [on purpose] and I always play with other people in mind. I love to RP, I always have, these whitelist roles are just a better/more fun way of achieving it.

I hope anyone else who posts after can bear this in mind, and move on from my petty argument.

Thank you.
Hate to echo or pile on you here - but the story does seem pretty unusual for a Predator. That and your response to Shy (Who granted is very much abrasive, but that's not a bad thing.) have me leaning towards -1.

As I read through your story and then the follow up responses I do have a very critical question.

Why would a clan of only four send in a valuable member of the clan -expecting- them to fail? I understand that you said your clan leader wasn't fond of you, but since they're so bent on tactical/logical decisions, sending a QUARTER of your clan on a mission that you expect/hope them to fail seems emotionally driven rather than logically driven. They would've trained him until they felt he was ready - mentally and physically.

This last bit here causes me to provide you with a -1. You're not a bad writer - this particular story just seems to miss the mark.
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Re: Va'Ja Zakaath (Playful Stalker)

Post by emeraldmoonx » 01 Nov 2017, 13:55

I specifically said that the clan leader is sending Va'ja in as a test. In no way did I ever say he'd hoped he would fail. Regardless if Kel'to doesn't like Va'ja as much as the others, Va'ja is still apart of his clan. There's no way he would send a clan member to die. The hunting area was seeded with 1 human and a lone Xeno. Kel'to was expecting him to survive, or else he would have never done so. Remember, in my story I mention that Va'ja has had his chance to become bloodied, delayed. He's much more experience than other young bloods, so a lone Xeno and a human would not be enough to defeat him. Kel'to has been sending Va'ja on hunts that didn't include any fierce enemies. This was to see if Va'ja would eventually move on from his less than desirable traits, or if he would hold to his personality and not falter. Eventually Kal'to just decides to send him, to test him a final time. If Va'ja were to be a coward and dishonor the clan by running from his first worthy opponent, then things would have been different.

If you choose to remain at -1 for my attitude this thread, despite my apologies and explanations, that's fine. Otherwise, look beyond that and look at my above response. If you have questions for my story, then I'm happy to explain my side.

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Re: Va'Ja Zakaath (Playful Stalker)

Post by NescauComToddy » 01 Nov 2017, 14:12

Every backstory (background) is of great importance to an application, but it is not the main factor. When head staff is evaluating an app, they will certainly look at the story created by the player, but what really matters is the player's ability to perform the role, how he behaves in-game, his playstile and the reason by which he should be whitelisted. Your background has some plot holes, but it's nothing that can't be tolerated.

When you threatened to report on Shyshadow's behavior, you acted in an immature way. He was always a dick about various things, but you shouldn’t have acted the way you acted.

Shyshadow was previously warned about how he behaves when he was banned, but that's another matter that will be solved on another occasion that won't be in the whitelist thread. I'll have to give you a -1, but it's not because of your response to Shy, or your backstory, but because I don’t think you're ready to take control of such whitelisted role.

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