Rustarus' Pred App (Setg'in Hult'ah)

[Rustarus]

Byond ID: Rustarus

Marine Name (so we know who you are; if you play alien mostly, state that here):
Max Terry

Name of the character you want whitelisted (The name your predator will use. This must match your in-game predator name):
Setg'in Hult'ah (Deadly Spotter)

Are you familiar with the Predator Code Of Honor?
Indeed

Character background (An ADEQUATE description and story of your predators background):

Part 1: About Setg'in Hult'ah

Setg'in Hult'ah was at 7'0, which was rather short compared to the others, even fellow young-bloods. He trained himself days upon days on end, making sure that he would have the advantage, in any combat situation seeing as many of the blooded and young bloods combined saw him as.... different. See, his left hand had a severe injury while training one day. Since he never exactly trusted anyone, and wanted to stick to himself, his injury got worse and worse, until his left hand became nearly useless to holding weapons. This made it difficult to fight, and train, but his only dream was to hunt for honor. Years went by, and he grew to love the weapons offered to him during training. Commonly watching Elites using their moves, he grew to dislike the more trained, who commonly tried showing off during training, without actually trying. It offered little to no help to him watching them mock their foe, instead, he commonly watched young-bloods and blooded train to see the mistakes made and grew off of that, when he was exhausted from pushing himself to his limit. When trained, he was showing flaws of these. Setg'in Hult'ah often of times was absent minded, speaking to himself. He was also known for being blunt in his speech, with rudeness seeping right from it. Sometimes smug remarks, sometimes blunt, maybe both. It was almost childish. He is often, also paranoid of hunting in groups. He thinks of himself as a lone wolf, someone who does not need the help of others to get maximum honor. He feels that they will mess him up in some way or another. Even though he hates hunting in packs, he is not afraid to fight SMALL groups of oomans or serpents. Even though he would much rather lay down traps, he would gladly fight an enemy head on. Even though his left hand is always in extreme pain, he is able to hold lighter objects, such as medkits, or anything like that. But, he is unable to hold or use any weapons with it.

Part 2: The Hunt
Setg'in Hult'ah was set out, bringing only a combi-stick and his wrist blade. He also brought 3 traps with him, just in case. Sticking to the shrubbery, he ran until he was into the hunting grounds, which was pretty far from the area of the clan. Eventually, he started to climb up a tree and wait, on a path known for high traffic of both oomans or serpents. The path was unsecure but commonly used to get food from a colony, and there was also a serpent hive near. He took the stealthy patient route and waited.... commonly thinking of how this will work out. The breeze was swaying the trees, it was a gloomy night, and Setg'in Hult'ah was the only one to keep himself company... all of the sudden, Setg'in Hult'ah heard it... footsteps, off in the distance. He looked over, to his right to see only one ooman, easy prey.... the ooman had a weapon. He quickly climbed down the tree, making little noise as possible. Sneaking over to the path that was far infront of the ooman, and quickly uncloaked to see if it was hostile or not. The petty ooman was afraid, unsmart. A loud sound came from it, and gunshots flew to light up the night sky. Setg'in Hult'ah quickly cloaked again, now knowing the he was.... a bad aim, and afraid. Setg'in Hult'ah could not help but to quietly laugh, enough for the ooman to hear. At this point, Setg'in Hult'ah noticed the ooman was in distress, and wanted to run. Quickly, Setg'in Hult'ah uncloaked and ran up to the ooman. Setg'in Hult'ah was hit in the right arm, but this would not stop him. Quickly lashing out the right wrist blade, he sliced the oomans leg cleanly, and a scream erupted. Blood was all over the path, and bright green blood laid next to the bright red blood. Talking to himself, seeing the stupid ooman running around frantically gave enjoyment to Setg'in Hult'ah. Pain erupted. Was he hit more than once?! His right leg was bleeding badly, but this could not slow Setg'in Hult'ah down. Thinking of the honor he would get, skinning an ooman on his first hunt made him excited. He got medicine out of his bag, and patched up the bleeding and set off again, finding the ooman limping down the path. He uncloaked again, running up behind the ooman. He quickly turned around, and shot without thinking. Before Setg'in Hult'ah could get hit by more bullets, he quickly jammed his right wrist blade into the oomans stomach. Time felt like it froze. It was silence, and the a loud scream erupted from the ooman once again. This one loves to scream, but nothing would come from it. Setg'in Hult'ah set out his wrist blade, then swiftly jabbed him right blade into the oomans neck. He fell limp, and lifeless. Setg'in Hult'ah felt proud, but lights were coming. He quickly noticed that he was closer to the colony than he previously expected, and quickly dragged the ooman into the jungle... only leaving his gun behind.
How do you intend to play your predator (as in, describe HOW you will act/play your predator)?
I expect to be a smug, rude, and sarcastic predator, and not be afraid to fight. I want to commonly examine the area before I fight, and get as much honor as possible. I will be sure to not use my left hand with weapons, for it will be my gimmick as a predator. I want to make the round as fun as possible for both sides, commonly attempting to honor duel with each, and not choose one side over the other to help or kill until it is noticiable that the marines are losing, then I will hunt more serpents.

Why should we whitelist you?
After being here for so long, and having my other pred apps denied, I noticed that I just needed time. People known me as being immature, and if you can BARELY get your commander app accepted, which is the easiest app to apply for, then you know you are doing something wrong. I gave myself time, re-wrote my old predator app that I had before, and I always wanted to become a predator on this server. I promise you, I will not let you down.
Have you been banned from CM in the last month for any reason (we will check, and lies may result in immediate denial)?
No
Are you currently banned from any other servers and if so, why?
Only yogstation, perma, because appearntly my toxins bomb went off randomly, and the logs said that I set it off somehow, even though I didn't do anything.

Do you understand that any player - donor or otherwise - can have their whitelist status revoked should they break our rules or disobey the Predator Code of Honor?
Yes

[TehSpoderman]

Theres no part 2! I want my money back. Anyway, I think the story was OK. It isnt top tier or anything but its passable in my opinion. I havent seen you RP in-game, though it might be because of my decreased activity. Im gonna wait until I see how you RP in-game before I vote either -1 or +1. Until then, its gonna be a neutral for me.

[Rustarus]

Theres no part 2! I want my money back. Anyway, I think the story was OK. It isnt top tier or anything but its passable in my opinion. I havent seen you RP in-game, though it might be because of my decreased activity. Im gonna wait until I see how you RP in-game before I vote either -1 or +1. Until then, its gonna be a neutral for me.

Whoops, good thing you told me under the hour mark, that would have been shit. None the less, I focused on my predators clan on part one, but I went in too much detail and it felt repetitive. Hopefully i'll see you in game!

[TehSpoderman]

Whoops, good thing you told me under the hour mark, that would have been shit. None the less, I focused on my predators clan on part one, but I went in too much detail and it felt repetitive. Hopefully i'll see you in game!

I feel like the word "ooman" was a bit overused in part 2. You can hit ctrl-F to see what I am talking about. Also, you used the word "human" rather than "ooman" in part 2. Its when you said "The petty human was afraid, unsmart."

[Rustarus]

Right, I fixed up some minor mistakes I found. It should be my final edit.

[Sneakyr]

Originally, I was going to use this space to post, but I feel as if it'd be wiser just to create a new one.

[Nicboone]

+1, this player is kind of a wild card, but i have generally positive interactions with them in, and their rp

[Breen]

+1 A stickler for the rules and always willing to respect other players and staff.

[Mook476]

He's a good player never causes trouble. I like the story as well it's decent, but try not to overuse Ooman to much. You're a good role player as well from what I've noticed in game, and you never really cause trouble. +1

[Rustarus]

He's a good player never causes trouble. I like the story as well it's decent, but try not to overuse Ooman to much. You're a good role player as well from what I've noticed in game, and you never really cause trouble. +1

Yeah my bad on the Ooman part. Usually mistakes like this wouldn't happen when writing, but... I tried to cut down on them before my edit timer was up. My bad.

[Mook476]

Yeah my bad on the Ooman part. Usually mistakes like this wouldn't happen when writing, but... I tried to cut down on them before my edit timer was up. My bad.

All good hero

[Sneakyr]

Backstory:
A bit chunky in flow, but it tings the right bells and gives a reason for why your character has his gimmick as well as a few other pieces of his hunting style. The content is quite good and I like it, and even though it is difficult to read due to how you wrote it and my personal stupidity what I did get was exactly what I, personally, feel is needed from this section.

Playstyle:
Oh boy. While the gimmick is interesting and I'm willing to +1 for the creativity, I don't think that you should actually *do* it. Restricting yourself to one hand is going to be exceptionally tough, since there are times where you'll need to plasma caster away those who interfere while also hunting your target with an honorable weapon.

Why you should be whitelisted:
Here, you seemed to focus more on making up for perceived flaws rather than giving a solid reason.

Personal player experience:
Max Terry is a fun guy to be around as a marine. Besides that, though, my memory is foggy since there are so many Max-es.
Besides that, I'm sure that he's able to be trusted to not abuse the role and to, at very least, take it seriously.

Verdict:
+1. The creativity of the app is what I'm judging, and even though I don't think that your gimmick is viable it is unique and shows effort.

[Rustarus]

-snip-

Thanks man! I understand that the one handed gimmick might be a bit tough, and I will most likely wind up giving myself a bit of leeway, using it to get enemies away in a tough situation, then RPing it out after the combat. Besides that, hope to see ya on the field!

[Gnorse]

throughout my time on the server, I don't thunk i've had any problems with rustarus' character. He's also robust and can RP pretty well.
+1

[Challenger]

The story is very meh, with the grammar, punctuation, flow just frankly pretty bad and painful to read. Also you just kinda describe your pred but don't really use any of his personality in the hunt other than him talking to himself, which kind of defeats the point of telling a story. The gimmick is neat though. Reminds me of an IRL amputee who said it's more of a disadvantage in life to be left-handed, than to be missing your left hand.

My problem's with your maturity and ability to follow codes. Just a couple of days ago you nearly battlefield executed me, an MP, as the CO because I confiscated the CL's handgun round start on code green, which goes kind of into a long-term pattern I've seen with you as a CO - you can't keep yourself up to date on the basics of marine law and the rules, so I have doubts about your ability to do that with the honor code as a pred. Other than that I don't recall anything negative about your character.

[Rustarus]

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I can agree, the story gets choppy at some points, and I wish I could have fixed it, but it does show what I am going to be like, well enough at least. As for the "Execution" part. No. Legit I have no idea why you think that, but I remember the situation vividly. Assuming I am thinking of the right one, I saw the CL hand you the gun, and you walked off with it out of his office. Once you did, I stopped you, asked you why the CL handed you the gun, and you said "Because it's an illegal weapon". It was the mod, which every CL starts out with. I told you 5 times to hand it back, and you started saying that you needed the CMPs permission, or that i'm not above marine law... excuses like that. I called the CMP over, and FINALLY after he told you about 2 times to hand it back, you FINALLY handed it back. Not once did I pull out my gun, besides when you decided to pull out a taser randomly in my direction, you said it was by mistake, and I said that next time you do that i'll "Pull out my gun by accident, and be sure to pull the trigger too".

Of course, I had no intent to actually kill you, it's just that after holding me up for about 5 minutes over something simple really got in the way, and pulling out a taser towards the CO does not help the situation.

Assuming you are the guy in this, that's my side, but honestly? I didn't even pull out my gun so I have no clue how you could think I wanted to kill you. A threat because you hold up the CO for little to no reason, even though you should really know that the CL has a permit for the mod, does not equal BATTLEFIELD EXECUTION!

I would argue my point about the other time you are talking about, but i'd rather not make it look bad trying to defend myself on such an old topic. But the reason why, is because it was my first execution, I did everything correctly besides misreading the marine law, thinking that COs could be able to participate inside of executions. Little did I know, it was my bad, but it was deemed an IC issue by multiple staff members. But everyone has their own sides to the story, so... that's just mine. Thanks for the review!

[Challenger]

I don't mind the events that spawned my player report from a while ago, it's been long enough that I can ignore it if there's improvement, or even just a continuous record of not making the same "mistake" again. But you did repeat kind of the same mistake recently and it influences whether I want you as pred or not pretty heavily so I'm going to elaborate.

So here's the problem. It's pretty clear that the CL can't have a pistol on code green. It's like, one of the "really obvious" things about Marine Law:

Code Green - Authorized Weapons may be carried by deploying marines, security (non-lethals only), the Acting Commander, XO, Staff Officers, and Requisitions Officer.

And in the CL special rules part of the server rules:

You can have a pistol at all times. However, this does NOT supersede Marine Law. So don't have it in the open if you value not being arrested.

There's also this rule:

Unless you are part of the Military Police, you should not be enforcing Marine Law. You may receive a job-ban if you do. If there are no MPs you should Admin Help the situation to see what to do.

And this RP guideline:

You are a "reasonable person" - Preventing MP arrests verbally or arguing is OK, interfering is NOT. (Unless you have a VERY good RP reason and "MPs are shitlers" or "He's my best Bro" are not good reasons).

And in Marine Law it says you can arrest people interfering with an arrest, and the CO isn't an exception to this.

All put together, it would have been valid to arrest you for interfering with the CL's arrest there. So why did you pull out a Mateba when I accidentally unholstered my taser by pressing h before the text-box came up, and then threatened to shoot me if I unholstered it again? This is what makes me think you'd nearly have battlefield executed me there had I gone through with it. You might've been confused by the CMP erroneously siding with you there, and I don't mind the effect on the round there, but you are certainly responsible for your own actions as a predator and if this is how you behave as a CO I don't think you should be whitelisted until you improve.

[Rustarus]

Ah fuck here we go.... I hate arguing with these things, but look, when I walked up to you, you legit said it was ILLEGAL for the CL to have the pistol. You never said he had it out. I thought you were taking it without any reason, and even past that, you must give a warning to the CL before you take the gun. As CO, I must ensure that stances with W-Y are... optimal to say the least. Having an MP take the CLs gun, randomly, as I seen from your explanation was flat out not acceptable. Furthermore, saying that I cannot prevent arrests is fine, because you weren't arresting him, you were taking his fucking gun randomly, with little to no defense. I said that I would "Execute" you the next time you did that because you were WASTING my time, then pull out a taser. I'm not just going to ignore the fact that you did, and of course, I wouldn't have actually shot you because you decided to pull out a taser without firing it. I really don't see the problem there, but I really don't want to argue on this factor more. So... we'll just leave it at that...

[Challenger]

But it IS illegal for the CL to have a pistol. You ARE supposed to confiscate it "without reason" if you see it in their possession, at minimum. There's pretty much no way to misinterpret an MP walking away from the CL in the CL's office taking the CL's handgun - he's clearly removing it from their possession as he should.

Marine Law, the server rules, and common sense clearly all forbid the CL having a gun, yet within two minutes of you waking up as the CO you end up in a situation where you're pointing a gun and threatening to kill an MP because he had his taser out while enforcing some pretty simple laws that you interfered in.

Being ignorant of marine code as a CO isn't really the main issue here anyway. I'm sure there's accepted preds who've only skimmed past it, it's mostly common sense. But you were basically about to kill an MP because he was "wasting your time" even though you have nothing to do with Marine Law in the first place and had no reason to be there yourself, and not only that but made incorrect assumptions as well, and finally didn't even at least ahelp for clarification. Making assumptions and having this self-justified outlook is a massive problem if you become a predator.

[Rustarus]

I really just wanted this to end and argue it out in mchat, but fucking hell. It was a MINOR weapon violation not an unauthorized weapon. Unauthorized weapon means a weapon you are not allowed to have, such as an MT having a shotgun. He has no permit, and it would be an unauthorized weapon. However, the CL has a CLEAR permit to have it, but cannot have it out, such as a marine having out his guns on board, unless it is an emergency. So, seeing as this is the situation, you taking the CLs weapon after still, yet again, you are not admitting that he had it out. You NEVER said that he did, you said that it was illegal for him to have. You are ignoring that. Furthermore, I never bloody took out my gun in the first place as CO, i'm pretty sure. IF I did, it would have been after you decided to take out your taser, which I thought you were going to use on me, for some reason... and once you put it away and admit that you mistakenly taken it out, I decided to threaten you, just in case you thought of taking it out and tasering me again.

Seeing that you are changing the situation DRASTICALLY from what it was, and what a MINOR situation it was, showing that "I don't understand marine law" when you clearly just said in your own text,

You can have a pistol at all times. However, this does NOT supersede Marine Law. So don't have it in the open if you value not being arrested.

The CL is ALLOWED to have the pistol at all times, unless being detained. HOWEVER, seeing as this is the case, if he had it out, it would have been a minor one, meaning you only needed to issue a warning to him. Sadly, I couldn't know this, because at the time you just said "The CL having this weapon illegal!" and legit didn't explain anything beyond that. I had things to focus on, and maybe if you explained to me the situation beyond that, the situation would have gone better.

Edit: After remembering the situation, I THINK I may have pulled out the gun when you decided to take your taser out towards me, but I put it away once you put your taser away, if I remember correctly.

[Challenger]

It's illegal for him to have.





The rule we're quoting makes it clear that he's allowed, by the rules, to have a gun, but not by IC marine law.

[Rustarus]

If he is not allowed to have it ICly, then MPs would be able to take it even if he didn't do anything. If the rules suggest that he's allowed to have it, then it would be interpreted that he has a bloody permit for it ICly in marine law. Now we're just nit picking at the tiniest fucking list in the corner of pages.

[TehSpoderman]

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[Rustarus]

ALRIGHT, so after about an hour of studying marine law, asking around mchat, and ahelping, I admit defeat on the CL subject. Challenger had the right to do what he was doing, it is an unauthorized violation. Bravo to you... sorry about all the arguing, 'twas just a simple misunderstanding. Thanks for your review!

[shyshadow]

Okay. Okay. While I don't want to keep up this argument. I do want to point out that incidents regarding being a Commander does matter. I believe though that it shouldn't develop into an argument on the application.
But I'd like to point out, that both of you are wrong in the side of who's right and wrong. If I remember correctly Challenger, you've been one to involve yourself over zealously when it comes to marine law.

You removing your taser from your holster is in terms, a form of insubordination. While not direct, it's a form of hostility and under mining his word. If I was Rust, you would bet your sorry ass you'd end up at the barrel of my Metaba.

He threatened to field execute you, as a form of fear tactic. He wants you to cut the shit. As an MP you cannot arrest him for threatening to field execute you. While yes you are allowed to defend yourself as an MP if you are being field executed, you shouldn't be trying to incite this kind of shit with the fucking Commander of the ship. You can act out as a MP if it's your character, and you can do dumb shit. But if it leads you to the end of the Commander's Metaba, then that's your fault.

It's quite simple Challenger, according to Rust. He never pulled out his Metaba, yet you unholstered your taser before him? Know what that sounds like? Sounds like a insubordinate MP that doesn't respect my authority. Anyway.


Regarding the application. In my opinion, it was kind of....meh. Like, your predator likes keeping to himself, that's okay? I guess. Your personality is basically just being a dick, but as a pred. Ummm, playstyle is honestly quite boring. Don't get me wrong, nothing is wrong with being standard. But the application. Just doesn't cut it for me, Rust, you as a person aren't bad. I mean, I don't always remember interactions with you. They're pleasant though, but quite honestly. Everything about this application, just does not speak outstanding. The application is moderate, playstyle is extremely standard (Being handicapped isn't necessarily unique, in my opinion), the applicant? They're good.

I just don't believe this is top-quality application. Applications don't have to be perfect, but when backstory cannot out-weigh the standard playstyle. It's just not great in my opinion, but if a playstyle is unique and the backstory is decent. Then it's acceptable to the point where I don't think it's lacking too much. But, I'm sorry Rust.

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