Setg'in Nanku (Deadly Alive)

[sirhelgate]

Byond ID:Sirhelgate

Marine Name (so we know who you are; if you play alien mostly, state that here): Alan Pendragon (plays a ton of xeno)

Name of the character you want whitelisted (The name your predator will use. This must match your in-game predator name): Setg'in Nanku

Are you familiar with the Predator Code Of Honor? Yes very familiar, Some would say I'm an enthusiast.

Character background (An ADEQUATE description and story of your predators background): A young hunter, seeking to gain glory and honor. He's come to the sector to join with the other's hunting. Setg'in aspires to collect many trophies, as this soon to be battleground is to be full of dangers, glory, and worthy prey.
But surely there is more to the tale of this Noble hunter. During his young years, he was trained with two others, Both more skilled, stronger, and fiercer than him. Where he lacked in direct strength he made up for in his intelligence. While they were sent on their first hunt, out into the wilderness of Yautja prime. They would plan their best way to close on their quarry the Quatza-Rij, the target of the Ceremonial hunt. Brief argument was observed amongst the group, whether the best course of action would be to attempt to overwhelm the beast with overwhelming force. Setg'in wished to lure it into a trap, but the other two believed attempting to wait, or chase the beast into a trap was a fools bargain. They all three resolved to attack the beast at once. During the attack the beast crippled one of their group, shattering his bones and crushing his arm. The Setg'in and the other managed to draw he Quatza-Rij's attention to them, then lured it further back until Setj'n partially blinded the beast with a lucky toss of his combi stick. Setg'in And the other, Kuj'la, Managed to corner the beast, using it's blindside to their advantage to score numerous blows on the Quatza-Rij, forcing it to bleed out it's Ichor to the point It couldn't move. After such, despite the failure to entirely work together on the hunt, The group were allowed to become hunters. Setj'in, wasn't happy how ever, He saw that the failure to entirely agree upon a plan and work as a unit cost one of them dearly.
It is at this point, that Setj'in sets out, to seek the quarry of the xenomorph, and to even encounter humans, and test their mettle.

How do you intend to play your predator (as in, describe HOW you will act/play your predator)?
Setj'in will likely prioritize hunting Xenomrophs over humans, probably giving humans a wide berth or using them as bait. He will still likely challenge humans that are alone and acting full hardy. Or even act in self defense. He will likely follow the behavior of similar elders he has seen in the area. Play it safe, watch the xenos, pick off strong xenos when they venture from the hive. Ensure the hunt lasts a while, gather many ancient skulls. Though he is willing to learn from more experienced hunters, as long as they don't mind sharing the hunting grounds.

Why should we whitelist you?
I am a long time player, from way back on the origional server. I am reachable on discord as Haresay #8866. I am a long time player on Ss13, and am quite happy to add to the already large community further.

Have you been banned from CM in the last month for any reason (we will check, and lies may result in immediate denial)? No

Are you currently banned from any other servers and if so, why? No

Do you understand that any player - donor or otherwise - can have their whitelist status revoked should they break our rules or disobey the Predator Code of Honor? Fully

[shyshadow]

1st post, application is meh. Playstyle is very standard. Nothing great. Also you couldn't even spell original?
Anyway, -1
Also, don't be a Xeno main if you want to be a predator. No one likes a murder boning Pred, and being a xeno main doesn't help the argument that you won't do that.

[sirhelgate]

1st post, application is meh. Playstyle is very standard. Nothing great. Also you couldn't even spell original?
Anyway, -1
Also, don't be a Xeno main if you want to be a predator. No one likes a murder boning Pred, and being a xeno main doesn't help the argument that you won't do that.

Sorry, I have a mild cold, and the medicine makes me a we bit clouded. Also, 1st post because I haven't felt the need to ever post on the forums. As I've been on the server for ages. Also, I don't only play a xeno main. I also do my best to try to be a surviver.
Playstyle is standard? Interesting as my human has taken as many prosthetic as I possibly can hold. Side note, backstory is 'meh' because I'm not going to write a hyper edgy backstory. I'm just going to write the standard 'new blood' kind of backstory. Backstories don't make characters epic, interactions do.

If you want me to 'Oh show me experience that you just won't murder bone' I'll say this. I used to play a ton of Paradise station, I often played a Vox Raider, that because of my skills most people assumed we were traders until we stole everything that wasn't nailed down. I hang out on 'High RP' servers more often than not.

[TehSpoderman]

Sorry, I have a mild cold, and the medicine makes me a we bit clouded. Also, 1st post because I haven't felt the need to ever post on the forums. As I've been on the server for ages. Also, I don't only play a xeno main. I also do my best to try to be a surviver.
Playstyle is standard? Interesting as my human has taken as many prosthetic as I possibly can hold. Side note, backstory is 'meh' because I'm not going to write a hyper edgy backstory. I'm just going to write the standard 'new blood' kind of backstory. Backstories don't make characters epic, interactions do.

Backstories arent meant to make characters epic, they exist to make your predator unique, personality-wise.

[sirhelgate]

Backstories arent meant to make characters epic, they exist to make your predator unique, personality-wise.

But a 'backstory' doesn't often portray a character's personality style.

It'd be more apt to have a section that says Personality:
Sly, tends to think more about waiting for a prey than charging in. Sees humans as someone that is more comparable to a child on their first hunt. And may often in odd circumstances return a weapon that a marine dropped to them if it was a valuable weapon. He's far more likely to suddenly intervene on humans if one human has been trying to go up against a crusher with a knife, so the human doesn't die when he gets downed. Because that human is doing something far more impressive. As for how he is, he's a freshblood, so he's likely to target older prey and attempt to secure a name for himself by targeting the 'ancients and elites'. Insert target on the back of an Ancient Sentinel meme here. But because of his experiences on his first hunt, he's far less likely to let one hunter rush off on their own with out having a good exit strategy or back up plan devised if they wish to go after the largest prey.

[shyshadow]

Well...alright? I have like no damn clue as what you mean by "Interesting as my human has taken as many prosthetic as I possibly can hold," I'm gonna come off as rude. But what, the, fuck, does, that, mean? Like what does that have to do with being standard?

Also, I don't like you attitude. Like at all. You come off as someone who can't take criticism. I mean, literally you put (I play tons of xeno) what the fuck do you mean you aren't a xeno main? Not only have I never seen you in-game, I've never seen you on the forums. Regardless of being on the server for a very long time, being a member of the community is a very large aspect of being accepted.
You don't get to become manager of a store just by applying. You have to have experience with that role and you have to get a good word from those whom are reviewing you.

Seriously, take criticism like it's meant to be taken. It's suppose to be taken well. You come off as a smart-ass TBH.

Also, yes. Your playstyle is very generic and it isn't supported by a strong understanding of lore nor understanding of a unique personality.

Also, I'd like to point out how you can't accept that people are looking for personality in the backstory. You are attempting to argue that it doesn't matter from the looks of it but regardless it does matter.

[sirhelgate]

Well...alright? I have like no damn clue as what you mean by "Interesting as my human has taken as many prosthetic as I possibly can hold," I'm gonna come off as rude. But what, the, fuck, does, that, mean? Like what does that have to do with being standard?

Also, I don't like you attitude. Like at all. You come off as someone who can't take criticism. I mean, literally you put (I play tons of xeno) what the fuck do you mean you aren't a xeno main? Not only have I never seen you in-game, I've never seen you on the forums. Regardless of being on the server for a very long time, being a member of the community is a very large aspect of being accepted.
You don't get to become manager of a store just by applying. You have to have experience with that role and you have to get a good word from those whom are reviewing you.

Seriously, take criticism like it's meant to be taken. It's suppose to be taken well. You come off as a smart-ass TBH.

Right, you've never seen me as a xenomorph. I rarely talk in OOC on the server. But the fact that you claiming you play xenos primarily as well, 'and have never seen me around'. GEEE I wonder why, I wonder why that number plastered across our name bar instead of a name is what we know the other xenos as. I'm saying that I play an equal balance of Xeno and Survivor.
Side note: What does it mean to take all of your limbs as cybernetic limbs as a human/marine. Well it makes it so you have interesting roleplay aboard the ship. It means when there's no engineers and no one able to repair you you make your way back to the ship, if your squad leader lets you head on off. It means you're reliant on repairs from torches and wires, besides the normal medicine and bandages. The reason I reacted negatively to your post is because you come off as a "Oh, this backstory wasn't Edgy enough for me, this standard 'he's a new blood' style doesn't fit my battle hardened, I need every single last new predator app to have detailed how they single handedly killed a xeno-queen, and then fist fought a Jockey and won. I need a story about how with just a human bayonet the pred overcame a ravager.' That's how you come off, and why I'm getting pointed with you.

'Strong understanding of lore' Mmmm I could quiz you all day on Lore. Example 1: When do predators get plasma casters, You'd probably say 'they all have them' When no they only get them after their initial hunt of a xenomorph, or during a trial. Anyone who writes that their first hunt took place anywhere other than Yautja Prime doesn't understand lore, because ALL Yautja hunt on their home world first, they hunt the Quatza-Rij to be considered hunters and allowed to go off and hunt. The xenomorph hunt is done to earn the title of blooded so they can carry a plasma caster.
I could go on and on and on, because I read books and comics all the time. And being told 'You don't understand lore' IS an insult. Backstories aren't a definition of personality, so me pointing out that the reason the back story doesn't display much personality is because it's a short backstory. Because the directions in the post told me to give 'A short backstory'.

ALSO I am ALLOWED to address Criticism am I not? Or are you some kind of tribunal judge who gets to sit on their high horse and hand down their opinions. If you fail to see the hints of personality in the characters actions in he backstory, then I'm sorry that you can't get a feel for the characters fairly clear motivations and thoughts.

[shyshadow]

-snip-

Ummm, okaaay? I know how the hell prosthetic limbs work, I was asking why it's relevant.

Okay, seriously dude. I don't know where the hell you think "edgy" and "battle hardened" comes from. But one thing I do know is that it has to have personality and quality. You provided like two paragraphs. Nothing else about your predator other than that he's not as strong as his fellow preds and that he's what else? Oh wait, nothing. He's literally standard, he's the most standard a predator can get. I know what's acceptable and unacceptabled. And what's unacceptable is your attitude. I personally could give two shits about your opinion on me. But you should care about what I think about you. Considering I'm a predator myself.

Also, yeah. That's the fucking point of why I'm pointing out I never see you. I don't recognize you because you're a xeno main. So I have no idea about how you are in-game, nor on the forums. But now I do. You act like a sarcastic person and I in no way would enjoy you as a person on the hunt with the rest of us.

[sirhelgate]

Ummm, okaaay? I know how the hell prosthetic limbs work, I was asking why it's relevant.

Okay, seriously dude. I don't know where the hell you think "edgy" and "battle hardened" comes from. But one thing I do know is that it has to have personality and quality. You provided like two paragraphs. Nothing else about your predator other than that he's not as strong as his fellow preds and that he's what else? Oh wait, nothing. He's literally standard, he's the most standard a predator can get. I know what's acceptable and unacceptabled. And what's unacceptable is your attitude. I personally could give two shits about your opinion on me. But you should care about what I think about you. Considering I'm a predator myself.

Also, yeah. That's the fucking point of why I'm pointing out I never see you. I don't recognize you because you're a xeno main. So I have no idea about how you are in-game, nor on the forums. But now I do. You act like a sarcastic person and I in no way would enjoy you as a person on the hunt with the rest of us.

Says you? All I ever see you do is come around to Other peoples applications, no matter what the application is and then shoot them down. I've lurked on the forums long enough to see you about. It's why I put my thumb down on this page. I'm not being Sarcastic, I'm serious, if you don't grasp how prosthetics effect a character, then you shouldn't even be hunter yourself. You don't know me at all, because I'm being hostile to you. It's just that plain and simple. When someone gives an unjust criticism I put my foot down on it. I could've asked 'How do I make it better' Sure. But the entire point of The Setg'in application is
"Setg'in is a new hunter, he's knowledgeable to not get himself killed, he's the standard looking to prove himself hunter"
Sure it's he's standard, nothing special. But the point of being 'standard' is not being a super special snowflake. I made my pointed argument with you to prove exactly that you're against people playing a standard non special snowflake.
If you'd want to explore the Character of Setg'in, you'd have to actually have him be permitted, THEN on top of that, you'd have to hold a discussion with him about his limited experiences, on how he dislikes direct assaults and his views in general.

ALSO I've never seen YOU on server. and I actually press the WHO button alot.

[shyshadow]

Okay, okay. Pal. Mind if I call you that? Pal?

There's a reason why being standard is judged so critically. It's because Predator is to improve the enjoyment of the round, in it's own way. Now, think about having every predator as a normal, standard predator with nothing special about them. Do you think it'd be difficult to get accepted? My answer is no. But being standard is 100% acceptable. But it HAS to, be supported by a GOOD backstory. It has to have a strong understanding of lore, unique personality and polish.

Your backstory, is like two paragraphs. And it has NOTHING special. It has no difference in personality. It has no higher understanding of lore. It has nothing that makes it stand out. Knowing the basics is easy, and that's why being standard is so harshly judged. Anyone could become predator if they didn't have to be unique, but you do have to be unique. You don't HAVE to have a unique hunting style, but your personality has to be different. And there's nothing that shows that in your backstory.

Look at accepted predator's applications. And look at yours. Are they on the same quality as yours? If you answered no, then that's why. My first on this application was short because I presumed you are the ones who are new. Regardless if you aren't new in-game, you still have to be known with those in the community man.

[TehSpoderman]

Says you? All I ever see you do is come around to Other peoples applications, no matter what the application is and then shoot them down. I've lurked on the forums long enough to see you about. It's why I put my thumb down on this page. I'm not being Sarcastic, I'm serious, if you don't grasp how prosthetics effect a character, then you shouldn't even be hunter yourself. You don't know me at all, because I'm being hostile to you. It's just that plain and simple. When someone gives an unjust criticism I put my foot down on it. I could've asked 'How do I make it better' Sure. But the entire point of The Setg'in application is
"Setg'in is a new hunter, he's knowledgeable to not get himself killed, he's the standard looking to prove himself hunter"
Sure it's he's standard, nothing special. But the point of being 'standard' is not being a super special snowflake. I made my pointed argument with you to prove exactly that you're against people playing a standard non special snowflake.
If you'd want to explore the Character of Setg'in, you'd have to actually have him be permitted, THEN on top of that, you'd have to hold a discussion with him about his limited experiences, on how he dislikes direct assaults and his views in general.

ALSO I've never seen YOU on server. and I actually press the WHO button alot.

Its obvious you cannot handle criticism. Heavy -1.

[Sailor Dave]

Being a predator means taking a lot of criticism and rolling with it. Preferably, accepting it and using it to improve yourself. It's understandable to get upset if someone gives you criticism that you don't think is entirely constructive. You're not being judged on how you take it in, but how you respond.

Lashing out at someone for commenting on your application only puts a poor light on you, and it gives a pretty bad impression of how you might react in the future. You're going to hear far worse from other players, and I don't see that turning out well for you if you can't even take it from a would-be fellow predator.

[sirhelgate]

You're right. I have a cold and it's obviously effecting me poorly. I barked at him because it felt like he was insulting me more than criticizing me.

[Shyguychizzy]

Yeah, despite ShyShadow's remarks, does have few points even if rather harsh, insulting, or enticing. It did brush off rather bland, though it does state just brief. Does that mean to follow as it seems? Some did say it lacked, which I do quite agree on playstyle/background a bit as it seems just a detailed which there is effort I do notice. Activity does seem quite low, many people bark about this don't have to be a main poster who posts everything but even mere comments helps; it helps us or fellow community in short feel contributing or participating in CM, and feedback helps. It doesn't state the requirements this I do say, however tends to be highly frowned upon being low activity among posts. Another thing, indeed quite unpleasant with the reaction being after seeing this app what caught my eye was your comments. Despite having a cold, I am uncertain if predator might be for you with your reaction or a bit uncertain if you decide on further judgement or react to what we predators happen. I think some more time might help, playing more marine will gradually help get your name out OOCly or even recognize it ICly. There is a tendency xeno mains in which many have diverted to marine to express themselves but in RP Standpoint not much interaction that is noticeable, might be little but on marine side its more easily identifiable or more RP in it. For my final Verdict.....I'll be going with a -1. To join among our hunt, perhaps give it some time.

[shyshadow]

Can we turn back the clock a bit. I'd like to apologise for being rather rude.
But my points still stand. There are a bounty of problems with your application. No application is ever perfect, but the ones that are accepted are creative and well defined not only as a character but as a member of the community.
As shyguy said, perhaps at a later date. I honestly believe with hard work and change anyone can be a Predator (except Brazilians that are bald). I don't want you walking away from this application thinking it's impossible. None of us do, but from the responses it's genuinely hard for not only me but the rest of the members that have the chance to Roleplay as such an antagonizing role to give you support in that regard.

As I've said plenty of time being standard isn't bad, but you have to have a definitive character. Someone that makes you different personality wise from every hunter. Maybe a different drive than honor, maybe vengeance?

These are the things you have to be willing learn and execute on the application.

I don't like putting people down, I honestly feel bad giving -1s. But being blinded by my own agenda than to review the application honestly and critically is just wrong.

Honestly, becoming a Pred isn't difficult. But what is difficult is making the Pred that you're playing your own hunter. Also putting the time and effort into doing research and editing.

P.S. Don't ask whitelisted players when Preds get plasma casters. That's just mean. Also lore-wise, that whole thing you were talking about. Qua thingy, it's iffy. Mostly because Yautja Prime isn't the only planet Preds are born. There are clans, I'm sure you know this. And with clans, there are different customs. It doesn't have to be RIGHT on the money but it can't go TOO far from canon.

[sirhelgate]

Thankyou for apologizing. It was rude of me to set out to prove you wrong like I did. I'll work on it more in the fuure. Maybe in the future I'll be a better applicant for it. But for now It seems that I came off as ... What's the word... too Standoffish. I felt like a more bland predator app would be more to the liking of folks. Guess I was in the wrong.

[Stripetail]

I think you need more forum activity, and you could flesh out your app a ways.

Read over some accepted applications and read up on predator lore. Spectate several games from other pred players so you know fully what you will be getting into if you were to be accepted to the whitelist.

Also play marines more, the general feel from xeno mains is that we never know how well you can RP. That's absolutely critical for a pred, it's not all killing.

Other than that, my sentiments fall well with the other reviews here. I just don't think now is the time for you to try for pred.

I don't mean to say this in a rude or dismissive way, but pred is a fucking majorly stressful role and you really need to be ready for it.

-1 for now

[sirhelgate]

I think you need more forum activity, and you could flesh out your app a ways.

Read over some accepted applications and read up on predator lore. Spectate several games from other pred players so you know fully what you will be getting into if you were to be accepted to the whitelist.

Also play marines more, the general feel from xeno mains is that we never know how well you can RP. That's absolutely critical for a pred, it's not all killing.

Other than that, my sentiments fall well with the other reviews here. I just don't think now is the time for you to try for pred.

I don't mean to say this in a rude or dismissive way, but pred is a fucking majorly stressful role and you really need to be ready for it.

-1 for now

I've been spending the past few days playing exclussively marines, to get the feel for the otherside of the coin more. Specifically I've been your PO. Doing alot of first contact roleplays for any survivers that come aboard. It's been pretty fun. with the occasional stint of being a survivor. I can more see how I can stretch my legs. Developing a relative deeper series of actions and motivations for characters. It's been interesting.

[Gnorse]

Aye. Being a long time player doesn't mean anything if you've got zero forum activity.
Look at me, Long time player since the sulaco days. My account's from the end of 2016 but I can't even hope for a whitelist because of my low forum activity.

All in all, flesh out your backstory, invent a better play style, post more and play a whole lot more as a marine instead of xeno.

[Ghostdex]

Nothing else to say here, minus one from me.

[Kerek]

Play marine more, I've never seen your character -1

[sirhelgate]

Play marine more, I've never seen your character -1

name got changed to Alan "Borg" Wolf because pendragon last name was too historical

[Feweh]

Denied.