So I've been gone for about four months and. . .

[outordinary]

ALL THESE XENO UPDATES

If you are all still playing horribly after the updates that I've seen done by dylanstrategie, you have to get good. There are a bunch of guides on here, I updated my sticky, you got marines being slowed while pulling, you have a ladder hub, you can lock the damn rasputin console, you crash randomly in the sulaco . . . damn, simply xeno excellence.

I'll try to drop in for a few rounds here or there, but I will still be very busy in 2017 in general.

In the meantime, stay deadly xenos.

(P.S I better see some successful rounds)

[Halinder]

I'm still waiting for the day they remove ancient from the upgrade tiers.

[Tisx]

WHAT HAVE YOU DONE. YOU'VE JINXED IT. THE MARINES HAVE BEEN GIVEN BUFFED FLAMERS THAT ACTUALLY LIGHT THINGS ON FIRE! THE CRUSHER META IS DOOOOOOOOMED.

jk. I'm sure it will be fine.

no it won't

[outordinary]

Still complies, even with hugger combat gone for the moment we still wreck!

[YungCuz]

WHAT HAVE YOU DONE. YOU'VE JINXED IT. THE MARINES HAVE BEEN GIVEN BUFFED FLAMERS THAT ACTUALLY LIGHT THINGS ON FIRE! THE CRUSHER META IS DOOOOOOOOMED.

jk. I'm sure it will be fine.

no it won't

TFW you were right about it being fine since they "REBALANCED" the flamethrower.

[Crab_Spider]

I'm still waiting for the day they remove ancient from the upgrade tiers.

Haha. No.

[YungCuz]

Haha. No.

I mean hes not wrong Ancient is a bit much and it mostly just promotes stalling just to get ancient.

[TheMaskedMan2]

Ancient takes forever to get to though, it's fine as is.

[Crab_Spider]

I mean hes not wrong Ancient is a bit much and it mostly just promotes stalling just to get ancient.

Elite is a step before Ancient, and even then, it's an absolute monster. Although I can confirm ancients are too powerful to handle, and their power promotes turtling, I would rather keep it as an incentive for players who wanted to evolve but couldn't.

There's also a matter of how some castes are weak even when they mature, the Praetorian seems to show this (Hivelords are just too much for me)

[YungCuz]

Elite is a step before Ancient, and even then, it's an absolute monster. Although I can confirm ancients are too powerful to handle, and their power promotes turtling, I would rather keep it as an incentive for players who wanted to evolve but couldn't.

There's also a matter of how some castes are weak even when they mature, the Praetorian seems to show this (Hivelords are just too much for me)

Meh i guess thats true.

[outordinary]

Elite is a step before Ancient, and even then, it's an absolute monster. Although I can confirm ancients are too powerful to handle, and their power promotes turtling, I would rather keep it as an incentive for players who wanted to evolve but couldn't.

There's also a matter of how some castes are weak even when they mature, the Praetorian seems to show this (Hivelords are just too much for me)

I would rather say. . . the power promotes marines not doing a retreat just to bait xenos. In a round with some good xenos and a good queen, they could agree to wait for marines to come down instead of going into a 5-1 battle or worse. Ancients/elite T3s (crushers/ravagers) punish marine lazyness.

[MrJJJ]

Its not hard to reach ancient really, esspecially for a T2, its excessive for T3's to be honest, sure its long fucking time, and you will probably have ALREADY seen combat...but they become just...so powerfull, the only way to win against is to either cheese the explosions somehow, or if its a crusher...pray to gods

[TheMaskedMan2]

The thing about Xenos is good players can do well with just a young Xeno. They get rewarded for being good by getting stat boosts, which in turn makes them even better. A competant player inside an elite rav? Hard enough when it was young, now you're really fucked.

Also slightly off topic but for fucks sake we need to make "The Hive" more active.

[MrJJJ]

The thing about Xenos is good players can do well with just a young Xeno. They get rewarded for being good by getting stat boosts, which in turn makes them even better. A competant player inside an elite rav? Hard enough when it was young, now you're really fucked.

Also slightly off topic but for fucks sake we need to make "The Hive" more active.

Expect everyone gets the same reward no matter what, if you sit on your ass for 8 minutes, it will be the same as fighting for 8 minutes, helping the hive.

Xenos get reward for nothing really, marines don't even get anything other than satisfaction for killing, you may feel like you get rewarded for being good, but in reality is that a ravager who spends his time killing hosts will have the same stats as the one that just sat in the hive and did nothing.

Its also not really hard to blame them really, Young anything is typically meh with some expections like Boiler, but honestly, a runner can get 3 round-burst fired and go into crit, while as a mature he can survive, would you really not want to wait a few extra minutes just to reach mature, so they can actually be useful? a young crusher often get's his armor penetrated, even by AP rounds, a young rav is so squishy, its not even funny, and a young queen, who relies on her screech, has a preety long CD on it, compared to when she is mature, where its much faster, and a young prae is basically a masochism mode without any support at all and no pheromones.

I really think that xeno evolution should be slowed, and get more points for attacking, fighting marines, so that a robust player who fights becomes mature faster and gets rewarded for it, compared to a xeno who took the safe path and laughed at to just become a mature, but hopefully we can absent T1's from this, who already suffer poorly at young, at least with T3 young a decent player can live, even if its weak a bit, but T1...gragh.

Or we can just scrap it all and just make them able to get upgrades, instead of becoming ancients and etc. (if anyone looked at leaked code, there was actually acid claws upgrade it seems.)

Just my 2 cents.

[HKO20006]

^ [Suggestion] Rework the Xeno Upgrade System
https://gitlab.com/cmdevs/ColonialMarines/issues/1180

[Crab_Spider]

Absolutely not.