Lack of xeno players

[Heckenshutze]

After playing as xeno a lot lately I'm sympathising with them a lot. Marine players give xenos and the meta a lot of shit cos they don't win, but if marines were winning all the time there would be literally no reason anyone would really play xeno, as marines you get both RP and indestructibility?

Big example was a previous round where 10+ special snowflake marines and the PMCs took the pod down when we aliens came and (easily) took over the ship. (Easy cos of the lack of defence.)

We eventually learn that the marines had built a defensive system in the caves, via a long one tile route mined into the rock adjacent to the the map wall. As ancient crusher I was needed to charge down and break the walls the marine set up. When we got in it was a kill zone. Admins were unhappy with this turn of events and helped open up a new hole for xenos to get in by, and it was still a hard won battle.

In dchat, people were giving admins shit for their interference, defending the meta and powergaming play, saying that these cowardly marines deserved to win. Had they been on the sully they'd have countered us anyway, we weren't that strong.

Anyway my point is that moment right there made me see that no appreciates the things that xeno players do, being the antagonists and giving the marine players am interesting game...

Problem is, marines have the wrong idea about being the "protagonist" .. Yes, the story is about them fighting aliens but they're NOT protected by 'Plot Shield'.

[BalancedGeneral]

Why would you ever want to play xeno? Almost everything is catered to marines. The admins are biased to marines, the marines are horribly overpowered, and xenos are still about as effective as they were with iteration 1 of this server.

There have been no major balance changes to address any of this and marines can just face rush to victory easily with overwhelming numbers.

[Toroic]

Why would you ever want to play xeno? Almost everything is catered to marines. The admins are biased to marines, the marines are horribly overpowered, and xenos are still about as effective as they were with iteration 1 of this server.

There have been no major balance changes to address any of this and marines can just face rush to victory easily with overwhelming numbers.

I think I speak for everyone when I say:

Lol

[BalancedGeneral]

I think I speak for everyone when I say:

Lol

That response says a lot, and mimics the general competence of the server staff.

It address nothing, it changes nothing, and shows nothing.

[Toroic]

That response says a lot, and mimics the general competence of the server staff.

It address nothing, it changes nothing, and shows nothing.

I'm good at remembering a name, and yours stuck in my mind because you have a strong belief that is utterly out of touch with reality.

Let's break this down, shall we?

Why would you ever want to play xeno? Almost everything is catered to marines.

Xenos win the vast majority of rounds, and a number of major changes are on the way for them. They also not so long ago can no longer be pulled, and before that xenos got an overhaul that added the upgrade system, and there's more overhauls on the way.

The admins are biased to marines, the marines are horribly overpowered, and xenos are still about as effective as they were with iteration 1 of this server.

Admins being biased towards marines would be news to me, because I'm a xeno main and consider the xeno win rate currently to be too high. I've written about three different guides for xeno, and am pretty good at playing crusher.

There have been no major balance changes to address any of this and marines can just face rush to victory easily with overwhelming numbers.

Again, xenos win a majority of the time, so obviously simply zerging as marines is not an effective tactic. Given that I've won some games pretty heavily outnumbered, I think a lot of people underestimate how potent xenos can be in favorable territory.

Marines just had a major nerf to combat drugs, and testing has been done with cloning removed.

No one is going to take your message that staff have a marine bias seriously or believe that marines are currently overpowered. (many marine and xeno players would vehemently disagree) Instead of doing what you typically do, which is post this nonsense in every semi-relevant thread, just let it go.

[Heckenshutze]

I'm good at remembering a name, and yours stuck in my mind because you have a strong belief that is utterly out of touch with reality.

Let's break this down, shall we?



Xenos win the vast majority of rounds, and a number of major changes are on the way for them. They also not so long ago can no longer be pulled, and before that xenos got an overhaul that added the upgrade system, and there's more overhauls on the way.



Admins being biased towards marines would be news to me, because I'm a xeno main and consider the xeno win rate currently to be too high. I've written about three different guides for xeno, and am pretty good at playing crusher.



Again, xenos win a majority of the time, so obviously simply zerging as marines is not an effective tactic. Given that I've won some games pretty heavily outnumbered, I think a lot of people underestimate how potent xenos can be in favorable territory.

Marines just had a major nerf to combat drugs, and testing has been done with cloning removed.

No one is going to take your message that staff have a marine bias seriously or believe that marines are currently overpowered. (many marine and xeno players would vehemently disagree) Instead of doing what you typically do, which is post this nonsense in every semi-relevant thread, just let it go.

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[McRamon]

Well, hello there, i do play alien most of the time. Main reason is - i hate being latejoin as a marine(starting from 10+ minutes into a round).
I actually think nameless xeno is somewhat good, because not being remembered after your fails is much more important than being remembered after youve done something impressive (nobody give a fuck if you just act normal and competent). Alien team is one where i can try some stupid risky runner plays. Well, i play quiet a lot and i am a tactical thinker and robust enough now, so i would not protest the personal numbers.
Not enough xeno players? You want all those future larvas in jungle to get its player? Like 30xeno at start? We would jump from 60-70% xeno winrate to 99%. Amount of xeno players we have now is alright i think and there is almost always someone who want to become queen.

[Reuben Owen]

Well, hello there, i do play alien most of the time. Main reason is - i hate being latejoin as a marine(starting from 10+ minutes into a round).
I actually think nameless xeno is somewhat good, because not being remembered after your fails is much more important than being remembered after youve done something impressive (nobody give a fuck if you just act normal and competent).

Nameless Xenos only works at all because Xenos are a lot more self sufficient than a lone Marine is. Queens currently can't organize or rely on certain Xenos outside of their caste. Like sure, maybe you have 4 nameless crushers but you don't know if they just won't all die at the first assault just from that. Or you tell a drone to go hivelord and then you never see them build or they make doors all over. That's why as of now usually the most efficient thing to do as a Queen is just let your Xenos evolve how they want to. If you know a certain person on sight you can help them play that caste better over multiple games too.

Alien team is one where i can try some stupid risky runner plays.

Runners are inherently risky due to their low health. Please tell me one play you can do as a Runner that you don't have a decent chance of death.

Not enough xeno players? You want all those future larvas in jungle to get its player? Like 30xeno at start? We would jump from 60-70% xeno winrate to 99%. Amount of xeno players we have now is alright i think and there is almost always someone who want to become queen.

He means more players playing Xeno, not more actual Xenos. As it is Xeno end up with a good chunk of extra larva after all the monkeys develop. Which would go to all the people playing Xeno, if there were any more then there currently is.

[Halinder]

There's a simple fix to this, and its name is corroder.

[Skane10634]

Honestly having names for xenos, perhaps using a limited combination of words to prevent meme names or lore breaking ones would let xenos be recognizable and have some modicum of roleplay.