What Really Grinds My Gears: Command Staff Edition

[Karmac]

stop fucking ordering retreats when the FOB is still being held

[LarryOrtega]

Yeah, it's fucked up, lick your wounds and move on, command it's full of pussys

[Joe4444]

they wouldn't have to order retreats if you shits told them you were holding on squad comms.90% of retreats are from 1 SL saying they can hold and no one else tells them otherwise.

[Karmac]

they wouldn't have to order retreats if you shits told them you were holding on squad comms.90% of retreats are from 1 SL saying they can hold and no one else tells them otherwise.

biggest lie I've ever heard

[Simo94]

command isnt a ghost roaming around the planet, once SLs are KIA or MIA they only know what u tell them and most of the time no one tells them so they just guess



also stop doing 2 FOBs! ITS TIME TO STOP

[Karmac]

command isnt a ghost roaming around the planet, once SLs are KIA or MIA they only know what u tell them and most of the time no one tells them so they just guess



also stop doing 2 FOBs! ITS TIME TO STOP

literally had 4 rounds in a row an Evac was called prematurely even with SL helmets indicating we were holding fine and men literally reporting on comms we were holding. even after command ordered the evac marines told them we were holding. this happens way too often, which is why I'm /salt/ about it.

50% of my FOB's are completely abandoned because "oh we were pushed back to the FOB? nah lets just evac the planet, just to be sure"

[Joe4444]

biggest lie I've ever heard

i'm not joking.You'd be surprised how frequent this actually happens.Command only have 4 movable camera at most, even then they get meta targeted and killed fairly quickly.if one tells them they can't hold and A)the other SLs don't tell command he's wrong B)they're all dead, leaving that SL the only one left.if you don't say shit to command don't expect them to have the entire picture.

[Karmac]

i'm not joking.You'd be surprised how frequent this actually happens.Command only have 4 movable camera at most, even then they get meta targeted and killed fairly quickly.if one tells them they can't hold and A)the other SLs don't tell command he's wrong B)they're all dead, leaving that SL the only one left.if you don't say shit to command don't expect them to have the entire picture.

listen to squad comms you numpty

[Joe4444]

listen to squad comms you numpty

once again, people don't like to say they're holding on there and rather to say we're holding command! fucks sake! on general comms....a chat they can't see....

PS:I main SL, not BO,XO or CO

[Karmac]

then your opinions dont matter too much to me because you don't understand the problem that is command staff

[Joe4444]

then your opinions dont matter too much to me because you don't understand the problem that is command staff

before you notice....SL is command staff.

[Karmac]

on the ground yeah, and they have less power than BO's, who can make planetwide messages that marines seem to think they have to follow.

[Joe4444]

on the ground yeah, and they have less power than BO's, who can make planetwide messages that marines seem to think they have to follow.

which they should follow, unless given a direct order not to.You should always follow higher ups orders.If a engineer orders a grunt said grunt should follow it, unless given a direct order not to follow it by someone higher in the chain of command.

[Karmac]

>follow retarded orders, you're a funny guy

seriously people need to realise you don't need to follow orders if they fucking suck, your soldiers not sheep

[Joe4444]

>follow retarded orders, you're a funny guy

seriously people need to realise you don't need to follow orders if they fucking suck, your soldiers not sheep

you didn't say anywhere in the post about it being a retarded order.

[Karmac]

I know, I wasn't talking about the original post, it was a reply to your message about following orders.

also one would imagine falling back from an FOB being held would fall under 'retarded order'

[Sneakyr]

The absolute worst thing for command staff to do to a good SL is to give orders over the squad channel. 10 times out of 10 the squad will immediately run off in a disorganized group, getting picked off & dying to xenos. After that, it's a gamble as to whether or not whatever you wanted them to do as an SL would've been a better idea (flanking the hostile force instead of attacking from the front, for example).

TL;DR: Giving orders over squad channels when you have competent SLs usually makes their life hell.

[Swagile]

the worst as command staff is when 3 out of 4 SL's go SSD and you have to make due with whatever info you got

command staff aint easy, and sometimes we have to order retreats due to a complete lack of information

ESPECIALLY ON ICE COLONY FUCK ICE COLONY TCOMMS HOLY SHIT

[Simo94]

the worst as command staff is when 3 out of 4 SL's go SSD and you have to make due with whatever info you got

command staff aint easy, and sometimes we have to order retreats due to a complete lack of information

ESPECIALLY ON ICE COLONY FUCK ICE COLONY TCOMMS HOLY SHIT

yeah god damn Ze Germanz always fucking with Tcomms on Camp Colony

[Renomaki]

I too hate early retreats when it comes to being a marine and having a decent FoB to fight from. It may go down sooner or later, but it is better than just giving up outright. I had rounds where the marines held out for an extra hour due to decent FoB defenses. Hell, one round I had as an SL holding the FoB ended when staff spawned hellhounds on the Sulico because the round stalemated.

Other things that grind my gears, though, are when command decides that delaying briefing as long as possible is a good idea. 12:20 is bad enough already, but 12:25? 12:30? WHY WAIT 30 MINUTES TO DEPLOY? I know marines aren't supposed to know that xenos are planetside spreading all over the place, but still... The sooner you deploy, the more time you have to adjust and prepare planetside. That is why when I CO, I set my briefing for 17, which strikes a good balance of preparation time and haste.

Another thing that ticks me off is when COs take all that time before briefing just wanking it, and when it comes time for briefing, they just throw out a half-assed speech, or take 6-8 minutes trying to squirt out something decent. There is a reason why I write my speeches in the office and then copy-paste them in briefing: It provides a nice, detailed and interesting speech at a much quicker pace, so marines can get to work sooner.

And don't get me started on other command staff that don't put an ounce of effort into their jobs just because they aren't shooting shit... Be it BO or RO, if you aren't gonna put in the effort for the war effort, you might as well not roll the job at all.

[Karmac]

There there Reno.

Let it all out.

Seriously though it's good to hear that not everyone is a mindless sheep that just accepts shite command.

[Rob606]

I hate being commander and having complete washes for underlings. I WANT to just delegate and trust things are done but I cannot rely on people.

Regarding the evac thing, I hate fucking retreating. Hate it. By doing so you basically accept defeat. As such I ask every squad how viable the situation is, and I try to get a consensus from my bridge staff if they are halfway decent. Fuck ice colony in this regard because I'm just flailing around announcing "Hey if you're alive hold FOB and organise amongst yourselves to fix the tower" which is fucking useless.

Playing commander is the most stressful thing in the game so I have to be in the right mindest to do it. When it goes right though, it is incredibly satisfying.

[Recounted]

Bo officers going SSD without telling anyone

[Swagile]

Ive found the only command that really matters is ground command (SL's), and RO.

Without a good RO / CT staff, you get no supplies.

Without good SL's, your marines are disfunctional and wondering where to go.

CMO? Doctors tend to be individualists and will listen to logic, since they usually sign up for the shittiest job ever (taking care of everyone).

BO? Relegate OB's and supply drops to RO console and BO's are mostly useless (lets be honest here).

XO? Only if the XO becomes ground commander of all SL's and is with the troops does this position matter.

CO? Idk, ive never seen the purpose of a CO if the SL's, doctors, and RO / CT's are doing their job.

[Karmac]

To be fair from what I understand Command staff exists to give orders to people that just play SL for the cool gear and don't know what they're doing.