B18 : Badass18 or Bad18?

[Imperator_Titan]

The B18
The tank, the FF sponge, the ultimate badass.
The baldie, waste of a coin, the rambo.


I want to hear all of yer opinions on the B18
So, let's start off with my own personal opinion, I only and ONLY use it when a certain criteria is met, which is:

There isn't another person taking B18 otherwise having two B18s will just be a lack of fire-power.
There's atleast two SADARs because even having one B18 will lessen the fire-power that you could have with three SADARs.
Doctors agree to make me some hyperzine.
I'm in the mood to use a gyro'd barrel charged buckshot shotgun.
And finally, I can depend on our SADAR specs. Having a baldie that takes a SADAR and dies within 5 minutes of deployment is quite devastating to the muhreens. What's even worse is having a baldie that doesn't know how to use the SADAR and stays inside the FOB for the entirety of the round, since it can't even be passed on to someone else.

When I do use it,I make sure to pop a hyperzine pill whenever a crusher appears so I can rush up to it and point-blank it with my shotgun.

Final Verdict: Personally, I think that B18 really depends on who uses it. You can have some really decent B18 players like August 'Slice' Walker, Yaroslav 'Yaro' Arkanov and a few others like Xur. Or you can have some baldies that don't know anything about the gyro-riotshield combo or hyperzine and die within a few minutes of deployment.

[Casany]

I always take a pulse rifle, a machete and a belt/armor/pockets full of AP ammo. The pulse rifle I usually equip with a stock, mag harness, and gyro

I found it works better since you don't have to get close which means you don't have as much of a risk. B18 is only good if you don't run into the middle of the hoard and get tacklespammed/hugged

Also, thanks for the mention!

[Imperator_Titan]

I always take a pulse rifle, a machete and a belt/armor/pockets full of AP ammo. The pulse rifle I usually equip with a stock, mag harness, and gyro

I found it works better since you don't have to get close which means you don't have as much of a risk. B18 is only good if you don't run into the middle of the hoard and get tacklespammed/hugged

Yeah, buckshotgun is a risk-reward type of weapon. You get close enough, you can put mature hunters down in one good shot. Get too close and you'll be tackle-spammed. I still love it none-the-less though.

[Sneakyr]

Going to have to go with a generic response, here: B18 is fine. However, the opportunity cost of SADAR or Smartgun, both of which can win or help win rounds, is too high for my tastes especially since eliminating a B18 is as simple as slashing the feet. Even if there are other SADARs/smartgunners, more are always good. B18 can be fun, and I don't spite anyone for taking it, but from a purely logical standpoint it isn't worth it.

[Joe4444]

Going to have to go with a generic response, here: B18 is fine. However, the opportunity cost of SADAR or Smartgun, both of which can win or help win rounds, is too high for my tastes especially since eliminating a B18 is as simple as slashing the feet.

blame Joshuu reeee! he's said before he needs to sprite them, but never does

[MrJJJ]

blame Joshuu reeee! he's said before he needs to sprite them, but never does

Apop once said that he "will ask joshuu to sprite them" like a few months ago, still never did

[NescauComToddy]

Oh Man, today was the Day I robusted a Predator In the First hit with the Machete, resisted an Entire Hive attacking me and Survived with the Yautja gear In the Planet while the Marines were Winning on the Sulaco. Thanks to the Top-Tier armor and My green Blood Machete!

I Remember before I escaped the Attack In Nexus, I almost gave up because Of a Ravager attacking me With another Elite Hunter. Then I saw My green Health and ran Like hell to LZ2, Good round.

In My verdict, It Depends On luck Mostly. Sometimes, you get Charged Just one time and Boom, Get fucked! Sometimes a Crusher Stomps In you and Boom, Injured. Sometimes, the entire hive Attacks you and, Boom, Almost full Health!

If you Don't are a RambIto, at least.

Because, If you are, Even with Luck or the B-18 Won't Help you Out.

[Caryl]

Uh... Only ever tried B18 once, survived only as far as the Rasp is about to land on the Sulaco, then I just... died.

[Toroic]

B18 is bad. I've said it many times before and in many ways and I'm tired of the "debate".

It's the worst spec option by a mile and generally lack of SADAR is why marines lose.

[NescauComToddy]

B18 is bad. I've said it many times before and in many ways and I'm tired of the "debate".

It's the worst spec option by a mile and generally, lack of SADAR is why marines lose.

If we Compare It In Team manners, then, B-18 Is the Worst thing that A-Spec could Have. If we compare In Individual's benefits, then It Is the Best object one can Have.

In General, the only reason Someone uses It Is to obviously, Not die and Robust what he may find In his way, Generating fun for the Player that has It.

This Is kind of controversial, You will rarely Find a B-18 Spec that Supports his Squad, yet, Using the armor Is pretty Fun, and most People play Spec for Fun.

[Xurphorus]

In my Opinion the worst option is the Sniper/Marksman set because of how useless it is, The DMG output varies, and depending on the person using it, its basically a one shot FF machine. The B18 is a great choice for specialist for those who know how to utilize its pro and cons to their advantage. A Gryo shotgun, a Machete, a Riot Shield, those are my choices of an arsenal for the Armor, or if you want to sacrafice the Machete for something else, try a M41a Rifle on the back slot for a quick switch, to fire down range for those foes that simple keep their distance from your shotgun. The B18 is capable for Rambo, but its not something one should just do. They need to know when to back off, and with the right squad of marines covering you.

[RedsPro]

B-18 Is OK. Its good for what it dose. That being said best way to use B-18 is after the original Spec with it died so you can be a walking fucking Sadar Tank

[Swagile]

Its not even the feet that makes B18 a arguably shitty spec choice.

Its the fact that to properly utilize B18, you have to get in close.

You know what else is good at close range? Huggers.

And you only get 3 hugger blocks with a B18 helmet.

Thats ONE get out of jail free card if you get double hugger macro'd by a runner, and now your just as screwed as any other marine that doesn't have extra fancy armor.

During no hugger combat test, the B18 was godly even when xenos slashed at feet because /not every hit by xenos landed on feet even while aiming at feet/. So a B18 could actually hold its own against xenos.

But during hugger combat, a smartgun / SADAR is a better choice overall both in killing power AND in general squad support. Smartgun for constant damage even in tight corridors, and SADAR to scare away xeno assaults because no xeno wants to be the xeno to die to AP first, especially if they are a upgraded T2 or T3.

[Thatnewguy01]

You see the thing about huggers is, ayy's have 2 options. Drop em near you, or directly on you. Ayy's don't do it directly in you. Like almost ever. So as the b-18. If you stand still and fire at an oncoming aggressor and DONT MOVE AN INCH when he drops the hugger. The hugger doesn't jump you. Not at first at least. Allowing you to bash the hugger with the weapon of choice. Works for carriers as well if you have nerves of steel and don't run from em

[Toroic]

You see the thing about huggers is, ayy's have 2 options. Drop em near you, or directly on you. Ayy's don't do it directly in you. Like almost ever. So as the b-18. If you stand still and fire at an oncoming aggressor and DONT MOVE AN INCH when he drops the hugger. The hugger doesn't jump you. Not at first at least. Allowing you to bash the hugger with the weapon of choice. Works for carriers as well if you have nerves of steel and don't run from em

Yeah, robust xenos will directly apply huggers, so this isn't good advice for anything but killing baldies.

[Thatnewguy01]

Yeah, robust xenos will directly apply huggers, so this isn't good advice for anything but killing baldies.

Shhhhh. Don't tell em

[Thatnewguy01]

For real though. The standing still tactic actually works against carriers. As they 'almost' never hit their targets and just have the huggers land near marines. Then the standing still tactic works

[Swagile]

Standing still tactic only works if you have a riot shield (and hopefully as B18 you actually do have a riot shield) since some xenos double hugger drop then push you, activating the huggers AI.

[Karmac]

B18 is pretty low-tier spec gear for what you get out of it.

But it's not trash and you can still get shit done if you know what you're doing. It depends on the player really.

[Retro]

The B-18 is a good spec weapon, it provides an insane amount of protection rivaling that of the Yautja. Its helm has three hugger uses which can be six if fixed with research. It's only weakness is its feet due to there being only chest, helm, and gloves, where the B-18 would be fucked over in. Not only that it's base speed is really shit. Making you walk around like a toddler falling down, getting up one step. If you go B-18 ask the commander and researcher for some Hyperzine, your gonna need it. Other than that there are a lot of things you can do with it and is a good if done well sort of deal, I recommend if for Spec players that know what they are doing, but are not gods. It is a good choice at the right times.

[Karmac]

You have to realise Spec weapons are normally your only method of harming Elite/Ancient xenos or T3's, the B18 armor does neither, making it less valuable than other choices.

[Varnasis]

B-18 is a very risk vs reward. You get lucky and destroy a Xeno up close, your luck runs short they tackle you to the dirt.