A Way For Better Marine Briefings

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A Way For Better Marine Briefings

Post by Trench007 » 02 Jul 2017, 07:28

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Summary (a quick, 2-3 sentence summary):
Make the initial briefing exclusive to officers (CO, XO, SO's, WO, PO's, SL's, etc).

Benefits (How this will benefit the server and game as a whole):
This removes the chance of rounds being ruined by a botched briefing, either from rowdy marines or an incompetent command. Furthermore, it will lead to better CoC organization as the marines are removed from the direct equation.

Details (Description of how you think this would work, the benefits, etc):
Now, marines will be briefed on a squad by squad basis, by their respective squad leader. Which, means marines won't exactly know the full details of the operation, only their orders. Whereas, squad leaders and other officers will get the full picture and discuss strategies with the commander. Meanwhile, the marines will gear up, get their attachments, and talk to other departments during their wait for orders.

Implementation (Optional, if you have an idea how to implement it):
[There are different ways of implementing this]
The first and easiest way, is to have officers now use the conference room for their private briefing. Then, have the squad leaders brief their squads in the current briefing room.
The second and harder way, is to rework the Almayer and create a smaller private officer room for briefing. Then, changing the layout of the current briefing room to be exclusive for squads.
I personally think the first method is more viable.
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Re: A Way For Better Marine Briefings

Post by misto » 02 Jul 2017, 10:24

how will you adapt this to situations where certain roles are not filled - squad leaders are sometimes absent for example. if an acting squad leader is picked, will you have to take the time to outfit them with the proper SL equipment and id change and etc. or just have them in and out as they are? what if the SLs are neglectful of briefing their men on full details and get killed or disconnected before properly briefing their men?

as there isnt even any kind of map or big board in the briefing room, i do not know why anyone has to assemble in any briefing room when the briefing being relayed over comms gives us all the same info. is it so command can survey the squads to make sure they dont accidentally assign a squad without an engi to try to fix the power or something?

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Re: A Way For Better Marine Briefings

Post by Renomaki » 02 Jul 2017, 11:49

Honestly, while it is a nice change of pace to have a more personal briefing with the SLs once in awhile, I prefer to keep most briefings in the ol' briefing hall for all to hear.

After all, at least in the briefing room, at least SOMEONE from each squad will understand their objectives. The briefing style you suggest can easily backfire in more ways than one, be it SLs not paying attention to not even bothering to tell their squad what they are doin and why.

If you don't want marines to start shit during briefing, you should try to respectfully tell them to settle down and pay attention. Far too often I see COs that waddle in, tell marines that briefing is starting and then just cut to the chase. If a CO/XO is in such a rush to get it over with that they don't even bother to do the simplest thing to get the attention of their men [without threatening them with MPs], they shouldn't be leading. After all, being a CO is a lot like being a babysitter: It requires a lot of understanding on what goes through a marine's head and maturity to handle the dozens upon dozens of marines under your care.
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Re: A Way For Better Marine Briefings

Post by Bronimin » 02 Jul 2017, 21:47

I like this idea, more power to the Squad Leader.

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Re: A Way For Better Marine Briefings

Post by Skimmy2 » 02 Jul 2017, 22:32

While I would love for a smooth CoC structure, sadly the USCM is drastically not a uniform composition as we would expect in IRL.

Alpha squad having no engineers (or worse, engineers go ssd before/during briefing)
Bravo having 10+ more men then any other squad.
Charlie having no SL

All are things that can, and will happen to throw a wrench into any plans.

The best way you can approach this is simply pulling everyone into the conference room (or simply even chatting over command net, which some COs tend to do anyways) giving them a earlier briefing of what to do, and then simply briefing everyone again a few minutes later.

Letting SLs know what their squad has to do earlier can drastically help them prepare themselves and their men, even if only morale.

Too be honest, the biggest buff I could see is letting SLs spawn with their radio headsets so all officers and Leaders can be on coms at round start.
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Re: A Way For Better Marine Briefings

Post by Heckenshutze » 03 Jul 2017, 11:50

I would just make the briefing VIA announcement using the squad monitor computer to see which squad has engies and such.. and make the deployment faster. time counts
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Re: A Way For Better Marine Briefings

Post by Rhicora » 03 Jul 2017, 13:46

Different COs will do things differently. You could certainly play XO and try this approach. If it works, it'll become more common!
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Re: A Way For Better Marine Briefings

Post by Tidomann » 03 Jul 2017, 15:03

Can marines see squad messages before equipping their radios?

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Re: A Way For Better Marine Briefings

Post by Fritigern » 04 Jul 2017, 09:24

Briefings are done for RP reasons and nothing else. And I don't mean it's done to promote or allow for RP, because such things never happen. I mean we're just acting out a script of the movie, or how we think a real military would operate, and we follow it out of habit. There is no meaningful interaction between the commander and the crew, unless they're trying to send a squad without engineers to build something, but that's because whoever is in charge never stopped to look at the manifest. Marine objectives are always the same even at their most creative, and the only pieces of information a player needs are where they're going and by what means they're getting there, the specifics usually come during play anyways.

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Re: A Way For Better Marine Briefings

Post by misto » 04 Jul 2017, 09:32

i know a way for better marine briefing - put a map in the briefing room. give maps to squad leaders. give maps to everybody. so that they know where engineering, telecoms, etc. are and arent bumbling around blindly because the only way to explore the map safely is if youre already dead

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Re: A Way For Better Marine Briefings

Post by Skimmy2 » 05 Jul 2017, 01:20

misto wrote:i know a way for better marine briefing - put a map in the briefing room. give maps to squad leaders. give maps to everybody. so that they know where engineering, telecoms, etc. are and arent bumbling around blindly because the only way to explore the map safely is if youre already dead
we have maps on the wiki, and everyone dies enough to spend time exploring the areas more closely.
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