How to kill military police аnd not get baned

[mtxvoron]

The last round. MP grabs people for minor offenses and puts them on a huge time in prison (20-70 !!!!! minutes). The admin replied that I had the right, in fact these freaks ruined the game to other players.

I have a question for knowing people and administration, how to kill a military police and not get a ban, because these bastards felt full impunity. Even in the rules of the game for the MP written they must respect and in the first place try not to put in jail, and to solve questions without violence. They are dealing with the military mans, who have combat weapons, but play like immortals (realizing that admins will ban someone who will harm them).

The question is how to kill the impudent MP and not get into the ban.
This is necessary for the MP to understand, they are dealing with the military, and not with fluffy kittens

[Rain7x]

"How to grief and not get banned"

Play on a server with no rules

IE: Not here.

[mtxvoron]

"How to grief and not get banned"

Play on a server with no rules

IE: Not here.

I dont want to break the rules, thats why writn here , and not kill MPs( for now). BUT MPs play non-pr and CM is med RP server!

[Kavrick]

Yeah this is a sure way to get banned

[mtxvoron]

Yeah this is a sure way to get banned

Thats why i asked, if MPs non RP ruined game ( break MPs rules ) , how to punish this bastads ( RP punish) and not get baned, or MPs are Untouchables?

[Rain7x]

Thats why i asked, if MPs non RP ruined game ( break MPs rules ) , how to punish this bastads ( RP punish) and not get baned, or MPs are Untouchables?

If the MP's broke marine law they will be punished by admins. Killing MP's because they arrested you is not a way to do that.

[mtxvoron]

If the MP's broke marine law they will be punished by admins. Killing MP's because they arrested you is not a way to do that.

Today I never got help from the admins. I was put in jail 3 times, the first time that while I went to tea while in the briefing hall, I did not hide the weapon. I was put in jail for 20 minutes (I would be imprisoned for 5 minutes, but not for 20 minutes!). Admin said that you need to put weapons on the floor if you can not remove anywhere O_O . Then another 30, for what I said to the MP, that if some one attacked him, I would not save him, and then they put me in for 70 minutes for just being rude to the MP (my patience was over, the admin refused to help by the way, he say wrtite on forum. Well, here I write)

MPs are untouchable, violated the rules, and no one punished them.

[Skimmy2]

Today I never got help from the admins. I was put in jail 3 times, the first time that while I went to tea while in the briefing hall, I did not hide the weapon. I was put in jail for 20 minutes (I would be imprisoned for 5 minutes, but not for 20 minutes!). Admin said that you need to put weapons on the floor if you can not remove anywhere O_O . Then another 30, for what I said to the MP, that if some one attacked him, I would not save him, and then they put me in for 70 minutes for just being rude to the MP (my patience was over, the admin refused to help by the way, he say wrtite on forum. Well, here I write)

MPs are untouchable, violated the rules, and no one punished them.

I highly doubt that the MPs are able to get away with sentencing you to 20 minutes for Minor Weapon Violation, 30 minutes for Disrespect to a superior, and 70 minutes for Disrespect to a superior, Repeat Offender. you either dont know all of the charges told against you.( which MPs are required to tell you), you failed to communicate this properly with the Admin, or you're failing to provide all details to the crimes committed.

Marine Law is Server Law as far as an MP is concerned, and are in no way running around doing this crap as much as you suggest.

[taketheshot56]

Today I never got help from the admins. I was put in jail 3 times, the first time that while I went to tea while in the briefing hall, I did not hide the weapon. I was put in jail for 20 minutes (I would be imprisoned for 5 minutes, but not for 20 minutes!). Admin said that you need to put weapons on the floor if you can not remove anywhere O_O . Then another 30, for what I said to the MP, that if some one attacked him, I would not save him, and then they put me in for 70 minutes for just being rude to the MP (my patience was over, the admin refused to help by the way, he say wrtite on forum. Well, here I write)

MPs are untouchable, violated the rules, and no one punished them.

Its sad but true, unfortunately last rounds MPs were the definition of shitcurity, aside from one or two. Being a doctor I watched as they arrested marines for shit like no proper uniform, just as they woke out of cryo, they had just come out. The CMP had his MPs go around taking attachments as "warnings" and confiscated SL and specialist gear like flamers because as he put it "You should only be carrying one weapon, if its not in your back slot, were taking it." They halted the shuttle for around 10 minutes while they dragged marines off one by one tazing and tossing them in the brig. This continued until at one point an MP just randomly cuffed an MT who was walking around and dragged him to the brig. At one point I went into the brig to tend to the wounds of a few prisoners who had been beaten by the MPs, and what I saw was rather said, there were about 7-8 marines, combat worthy and around four of them were medics, all locked in perma brig isolation. They had their rounds ruined before briefing even started for weapons violations and trying to get to medbay. As a frequent MP and CMP what I saw today really made me sad. And Unfortunately, no unless command or the CL starts complaining about the issues there is nothing you can do, and yet again unfortunately, command was busy commanding, and the CL sided with the MPs. Such is life my friend.

[Heckenshutze]

If you feel you're being bullied by MP's just Ahelp, believe it or not, MP's are under mod's light almost all the time since it's a job that requires to follow the 100% of the Marine Law or face a job ban or worse.

Sometimes, as a mini event, MP's are told to act more shitty, just like that round you were talking about were the CMP was in fact, an admin.

[Recounted]

The last round. MP grabs people for minor offenses and puts them on a huge time in prison (20-70 !!!!! minutes). The admin replied that I had the right, in fact these freaks ruined the game to other players.

I have a question for knowing people and administration, how to kill a military police and not get a ban, because these bastards felt full impunity. Even in the rules of the game for the MP written they must respect and in the first place try not to put in jail, and to solve questions without violence. They are dealing with the military mans, who have combat weapons, but play like immortals (realizing that admins will ban someone who will harm them).

The question is how to kill the impudent MP and not get into the ban.
This is necessary for the MP to understand, they are dealing with the military, and not with fluffy kittens

steal two quick clot from medbay and when the situation turns to chaos stick em to the mp who arr-oh wait nevermind you just salty

[mtxvoron]

steal two quick clot from medbay and when the situation turns to chaos stick em to the mp who arr-oh wait nevermind you just salty

i am not do this, then some one start chaos i alrady sit in jaile , i was arested then was afk in brif room( i go for tea, and then back i was cliffed and escorting to jail).


Well i got it, MPs are untocheble PR and round ruiners. this is truly bullshiet admins ( and admins not help in game, i ask help more then 3 times about that situation - "its ok" they say , 20 min for situation then MP can just disarm me and go? "its ok" 70 min for rude? "its ok"). MPs know now one shoot them( ban ban ban), thats why they do such crap.

MP do not understand that them dealing with marrines like that?:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KhUKQeDqakE

Or MP just cant in RP?

[Tidomann]

Why do admins act extra shitty at MPs to "spice" up the round, when all it really does it generate animosity towards MPs. It's like you piss off the population to just show that the standard we hold MPs to could actually be lower, so be content with sub-par.

I think briging medics for accessing medical in no way violates insubordination nor trespassing- until briefing is started. Unless the CMP or acting commander states a otherwise the MPs should not be arresting them. That's just my interpretation.

[Renomaki]

There is a way to kill MPs without getting banned.

It's called a mutiny, and those often end up going very, VERY badly if you are able to convince the admins to allow you to host one.

Really, the best way to deal with MPs is to be polite and not shit up a storm. Sure, you could argue "but my avatar doesn't take shit from no-one!", and to that I'd say "you are still a marine, though... And a marine knows how to follow the rules."

I was CO of a recent round where we had this one marine that just couldn't stop being a little bitch, constantly calling the MPs shit and not realizing he is violating the law in the process, so he kept getting jailed over and over again because he refused to settle down and be a good boy. He was a spec, too, a role that requires a great deal of trust.. And to see someone fuck about with it was disappointing.

If you have to break the law, at least accept your jailtime with dignity instead of throwing a tantrum.

[TehSpoderman]

I was CO of a recent round where we had this one marine that just couldn't stop being a little bitch, constantly calling the MPs shit and not realizing he is violating the law in the process, so he kept getting jailed over and over again because he refused to settle down and be a good boy. He was a spec, too, a role that requires a great deal of trust.. And to see someone fuck about with it was disappointing.

If you have to break the law, at least accept your jailtime with dignity instead of throwing a tantrum.

This. Throwing a tantrum is probably gonna land you a one way ticket to permabrig or even execution. If you are getting arrested, stay as calm as possible.

[mtxvoron]

There is a way to kill MPs without getting banned.
If you have to break the law, at least accept your jailtime with dignity instead of throwing a tantrum.

My imprisonment ended then I beat two MPs, while 2 of them still ran like idiots nearby, but since I did not have the right to kill them they eventually hit me from the taser , and then i just logout

ok thanks for answers

[Moon Tune]

My imprisonment ended then I beat two MPs, while 2 of them still ran like idiots nearby, but since I did not have the right to kill them they eventually hit me from the taser , and then i just logout

ok thanks for answers

I imagine this being you right now.

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[Tidomann]

My imprisonment ended then I beat two MPs, while 2 of them still ran like idiots nearby, but since I did not have the right to kill them they eventually hit me from the taser , and then i just logout

ok thanks for answers

This is the reason we have shitcurity

[Crab_Spider]

This is the reason we have shitcurity

Hm? What's the reason, exactly?

[Tidomann]

Hm? What's the reason, exactly?

I guess it's different when you serve a 70 minute sentence. I retract my statement. There are players who like to fuck with the MPs just to see if they can get away with it.

[taketheshot56]

I guess it's different when you serve a 70 minute sentence. I retract my statement. There are players who like to fuck with the MPs just to see if they can get away with it.

The MPs that round were complete Shitcurity, there was no real reason for the arrests, as I said earlier. While running on a very small engineering staff they randomly walked up and dragged 1 of 2 MTs onboard to the brig and threw him into isolation uttering not a word about charges or arrests.

[Vedartha]

The MPs that round were complete Shitcurity, there was no real reason for the arrests, as I said earlier. While running on a very small engineering staff they randomly walked up and dragged 1 of 2 MTs onboard to the brig and threw him into isolation uttering not a word about charges or arrests.

That you don't understand the reason behind an arrest doesn't mean that the arrest has no reason at all.

As for MPs in general, it's the role I played the most since I arrived here. While it's true that sometimes there are MPs that like to screw people, they do under the Marine Law, cause if they don't they will be fucked by the admins for sure. MPs are closely watched and for them Marine Law it's like server rules. Blame Marine Law not the MPs.

Every player has the right to roleplay the character they want, always following the rules. I, for example, roleplay a MP that follows the Marine Law to the letter and if I see a Marine with a weapon unholstered I will do a warning first and if they don't holster the weapon, arrest them. There are MPs that doesn't botter with that and only like to pursue the most serious crimes, etc, etc.

And last, there are marines who like to push the MPs to the limit, being disrespectful while trying to talk in a way that will not get them arrested. But, sometimes, they fail to do that and get arrested and then, instead of being quiet to get out of the brig after 5 minutes and go to the planet, they insult, and insult, several times, thus increasing their sentence and the saltiness inside them. That's not the MPs fault at all..

[taketheshot56]

That you don't understand the reason behind an arrest doesn't mean that the arrest has no reason at all.

As for MPs in general, it's the role I played the most since I arrived here. While it's true that sometimes there are MPs that like to screw people, they do under the Marine Law, cause if they don't they will be fucked by the admins for sure. MPs are closely watched and for them Marine Law it's like server rules. Blame Marine Law not the MPs.

Every player has the right to roleplay the character they want, always following the rules. I, for example, roleplay a MP that follows the Marine Law to the letter and if I see a Marine with a weapon unholstered I will do a warning first and if they don't holster the weapon, arrest them. There are MPs that doesn't botter with that and only like to pursue the most serious crimes, etc, etc.

And last, there are marines who like to push the MPs to the limit, being disrespectful while trying to talk in a way that will not get them arrested. But, sometimes, they fail to do that and get arrested and then, instead of being quiet to get out of the brig after 5 minutes and go to the planet, they insult, and insult, several times, thus increasing their sentence and the saltiness inside them. That's not the MPs fault at all..

Of course, but following arrest procedure is needed, tazing an MT and dragging him away without uttering a word is wrong, even if you have a reason. Its required to follow procedure.

[Vedartha]

Of course, but following arrest procedure is needed, tazing an MT and dragging him away without uttering a word is wrong, even if you have a reason. Its required to follow procedure.

Not at all. You have to follow procedure the first time, but if the suspect escapes, you don't have to follow the procedure everytime cause you already know they will try to run.

It's not reasonable at all stopping to follow procedure with someone you know is going to escape (or shoot at you) while you're writing. It's just not reasonable. You don't know if these MT escaped before, you don't know it. This, talking about procedure for compliant people. Once someone is not compliant, as Marine Law says:

Non-Compliant Suspect (resisting or running)

Prepare a non-lethal method of neutralization
Apply until they are no longer resisting
Secure the suspect and Inform the suspect of their charge
Bring the suspect to the brig

So, in your tale, the only thing that the MP didn't was informing them of the charges, and it could be that he informed them before.

Yes, it's possible that the MP who did that was just a bad MP, of course it is, but the thing is that you can't be sure what happened before that particular event. You can if they did that to you, then you can ahelp and solve it, but in this case you just can't know it for sure.

[taketheshot56]

Not at all. You have to follow procedure the first time, but if the suspect escapes, you don't have to follow the procedure everytime cause you already know they will try to run.

It's not reasonable at all stopping to follow procedure with someone you know is going to escape (or shoot at you) while you're writing. It's just not reasonable. You don't know if these MT escaped before, you don't know it.

Yes, it's possible that the MP who did that was just a bad MP, of course it is, but the thing is that you can't be sure what happened before that particular event. You can if they did that to you, then you can ahelp and solve it, but in this case you just can't know it for sure.

No I do, I watched the MT in question come out of cryo and start walking, it was then that he was tased and dragged away without a word, and no you do have to follow MP no matter what, ive been warned numerous times for handcuffing a suspect before telling him his charge. If he resists you are to taze cuff and inform them of the charge, none of this was followed.