Favorite SL?
- kooarbiter
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Re: Favorite SL?
the other day I played SL for the second time (not counting the two or three times I was asl in the middle of an op) and it went about as well as expected, I explained I was new and as sonn as we got into conflict i ordered us to fall back and the squad started digging into hydro and building fortifications without any orders to do so, feelsbadman but I can't ahelp an entire squad going full dunga
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- Kesserline
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Re: Favorite SL?
So.. it's not YOUR fault at all that YOUR squad didn't obey YOUR orders ?
Probably lack of charisma ? Probably lack of repeating orders ? Probably lack of cohesion ?
It's your job. You'll always have like 10 to 20% ungas not listening. But a full squad ? That's on you man, you did something wrong, or you didn't do something good at least.
Think about your round, what were the weaknesses, the faults you made ? How to fix them ? How to get around the obstacles ?
First step to improve yourself, in EVERYTHING (IRL, videogame, throwing cats in the disposals, ec.), is to acknowledge that there was a fuck up somewhere, and understand how the fuck up fucked up.
Probably lack of charisma ? Probably lack of repeating orders ? Probably lack of cohesion ?
It's your job. You'll always have like 10 to 20% ungas not listening. But a full squad ? That's on you man, you did something wrong, or you didn't do something good at least.
Think about your round, what were the weaknesses, the faults you made ? How to fix them ? How to get around the obstacles ?
First step to improve yourself, in EVERYTHING (IRL, videogame, throwing cats in the disposals, ec.), is to acknowledge that there was a fuck up somewhere, and understand how the fuck up fucked up.
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Re: Favorite SL?
Not sure what it was, rped lots with squad, made orders clear as I could, and I repeated fall back multiple times over comsKesserline wrote: ↑01 Apr 2018, 08:24So.. it's not YOUR fault at all that YOUR squad didn't obey YOUR orders ?
Probably lack of charisma ? Probably lack of repeating orders ? Probably lack of cohesion ?
It's your job. You'll always have like 10 to 20% ungas not listening. But a full squad ? That's on you man, you did something wrong, or you didn't do something good at least.
Think about your round, what were the weaknesses, the faults you made ? How to fix them ? How to get around the obstacles ?
First step to improve yourself, in EVERYTHING (IRL, videogame, throwing cats in the disposals, ec.), is to acknowledge that there was a fuck up somewhere, and understand how the fuck up fucked up.
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Re: Favorite SL?
Fall back is just a doom order.
Unless your men are fully loyal and obedient, it's ultra hard for a SL to make a marine leave the firing line.
You need a fucking cohesion to make it happen. If you see that in 30 sec your "FALL BACK" orders don't work, use "REGROUP ! ON ME !" try to gather 2 to 3 marines around you, get on the frontline and insult your ungas (it's a figure of speech to make point at them and yell at them again, until they feel concerned by what you say).
Mostly, as long as a marine has their mind toggled on "Maneuver mod" you can make him fall back, push back, flank, counter flank and fall back again, he won't notice.
But if you just let him go on the frontline, he'll just let his brain next to his keyboard.
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Context can help analyzes the situation :
- Duration of the presence of your men on the frontline (was it just 5 sec ? Or 5 minutes ? Huge difference)
- Which squad ? Usually, Bravo is ultra obedient, yet useless and inefficient at everything, but very obedient, Delta is a wild card and if the core squade composed of vets decide to tell you to fuck off, you will fuck off. Charlies are a bit the same, as they have the second largest amount of vets, but they are more professional than Deltas. Alphas is .. a mix between Charlie and Bravo. It's all because of the squad core composed by a huge/moderate/low amount of regular players.
- Context : push at north river ? full evacuation ? battalion routed ?
- Your performance :
=> Talking during the entire round before telling your fall back order ?
=> Were you always the center of attention for your squad ? Or at least, one of the most important centers of attention ? (Vets or solid marines can be natural leaders and try to gather attention, but no need to play against them, use this to your profit)
=> Global satisfaction or disatisfaction or your squadies about you ?
That's the main items that can make you think about how you acted as a SL. The main point is : Talking during the entire round before telling your fall back order ?.
The main tool of a SL is his headset. Like a hound master, your hellhounds need to be tied with a leash. Not too long to allow them to rambo off without knowing they will be banned from your leadership, not too short to mess with their agressiveness and ability to take brilliant and efficient initatives.
Unless your men are fully loyal and obedient, it's ultra hard for a SL to make a marine leave the firing line.
You need a fucking cohesion to make it happen. If you see that in 30 sec your "FALL BACK" orders don't work, use "REGROUP ! ON ME !" try to gather 2 to 3 marines around you, get on the frontline and insult your ungas (it's a figure of speech to make point at them and yell at them again, until they feel concerned by what you say).
Mostly, as long as a marine has their mind toggled on "Maneuver mod" you can make him fall back, push back, flank, counter flank and fall back again, he won't notice.
But if you just let him go on the frontline, he'll just let his brain next to his keyboard.
______________________
Context can help analyzes the situation :
- Duration of the presence of your men on the frontline (was it just 5 sec ? Or 5 minutes ? Huge difference)
- Which squad ? Usually, Bravo is ultra obedient, yet useless and inefficient at everything, but very obedient, Delta is a wild card and if the core squade composed of vets decide to tell you to fuck off, you will fuck off. Charlies are a bit the same, as they have the second largest amount of vets, but they are more professional than Deltas. Alphas is .. a mix between Charlie and Bravo. It's all because of the squad core composed by a huge/moderate/low amount of regular players.
- Context : push at north river ? full evacuation ? battalion routed ?
- Your performance :
=> Talking during the entire round before telling your fall back order ?
=> Were you always the center of attention for your squad ? Or at least, one of the most important centers of attention ? (Vets or solid marines can be natural leaders and try to gather attention, but no need to play against them, use this to your profit)
=> Global satisfaction or disatisfaction or your squadies about you ?
That's the main items that can make you think about how you acted as a SL. The main point is : Talking during the entire round before telling your fall back order ?.
The main tool of a SL is his headset. Like a hound master, your hellhounds need to be tied with a leash. Not too long to allow them to rambo off without knowing they will be banned from your leadership, not too short to mess with their agressiveness and ability to take brilliant and efficient initatives.
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Re: Favorite SL?
Also, keep in mind that one of the most complicated military maneuvers is breaking contact while engaged with an enemy. Even with voice comms, which we don't have, a soldier has to worry about: where they are, where friendlies are, where the enemy is, what cover they can use, what cover they can make, how they can best kill, aiming, keeping awareness of enemy intent, and finally, what their current orders are. An SLs most difficult work in that situation is to either get their squad to avoid the 'battle trance', to snap them out of it, work with what you have (At least temporarily; first contact in particular is reminiscent of Ia Drang) or, when necessary, save what you can.
That said, if you can tell them where they're advancing or falling back to, throw it in there. If the reason is short (Read: Can get them to leave), throw it in, too. Name names, try to get the people that listen to start doing it first, etc...
If all else fails, getting the Benos to back off, even for a few moments, can get you the calm you need for people to check chat, and small victories can make falling back slightly more palatable.
That said, if you can tell them where they're advancing or falling back to, throw it in there. If the reason is short (Read: Can get them to leave), throw it in, too. Name names, try to get the people that listen to start doing it first, etc...
If all else fails, getting the Benos to back off, even for a few moments, can get you the calm you need for people to check chat, and small victories can make falling back slightly more palatable.
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Re: Favorite SL?
There are a lot of great SLs around, but I'd say Park So-Hee and Maek have to be two of the best ones.
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Re: Favorite SL?
Yesterday was my first round as SL, I did pretty good I think since I was only ordered to secure and maintain Hydro while the others squads did shit like flanking them while they were attacking us, but in the end we all failed and I died miserably. THO! I think it went well, since I hold it out the best I could with a shitty engie and no medic for half the round, called in a CAS that killed some benos, deployed an OB that was never fired (Couldn't tell command to fire it since I died first) and that's it.
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"Cover my ass while I build these cades up!"
Name: Park Sun-Hee.
Role: Engie, Spec, SL in lowpop.
Squad: Delta.
"Cover my ass while I build these cades up!"
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Re: Favorite SL?
Avalanche here,
That round was a masterpiece.
We rushed in and executed like 5 T3s including an elite empress.
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Re: Favorite SL?
william crimson
Always away from his squad,always gets facehugged,and never fight a predator
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