Female officers getting pissed off for improperly addressing them?

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Female officers getting pissed off for improperly addressing them?

Post by adrenalinetooth » 16 Mar 2018, 15:46

Whenever I call a female officer in game a 'Sir', they get extremely pissed off and say that it's "Ma'am".
In the military isn't any officer called a 'sir', regardless of gender?

I try to call any female officer I talk to "ma'am" out of respect but really isn't it fine to call them "sir" anyways?

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Re: Female officers getting pissed off for improperly addressing them?

Post by Youbar » 16 Mar 2018, 15:47

adrenalinetooth wrote:
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In the military isn't any officer called a 'sir', regardless of gender?
Yes. Their complaints are invalid. You're not addressing them - you're addressing their commission.
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Post by Sargeantmuffinman » 16 Mar 2018, 15:49

Yah gotta RP this shit man, either turn it into a joke or just follow through.

Or you can do what I do and call them by their position or rank.

I call the CO commander or a SO, LT and yada yada yada.
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Post by Skimmy2 » 16 Mar 2018, 15:49

Call them by their rank to avoid this problem!

But saying "Sir" in the military is basically gender neutral.all that being said, call them what they order you to call them less you get BEed.
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Post by adrenalinetooth » 16 Mar 2018, 15:51

Sargeantmuffinman wrote:
16 Mar 2018, 15:49
Yah gotta RP this shit man, either turn it into a joke or just follow through.

Or you can do what I do and call them by their position or rank.

I call the CO commander or a SO, LT and yada yada yada.
It's all fun and games until that officer goes on the military police radio net and requests MP to arrest me for showing disrepect towards a superior for not addressing them the way they see fit..

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Re: Female officers getting pissed off for improperly addressing them?

Post by Amaxin » 16 Mar 2018, 15:54

The word "sir" in the army is gender neutral, it means respect and shows that you have some regard for the chain of command. It is used to address both male and female officers - if a female officer gets upset over the use of the word "sir" (in a non-malicious way), they're being a snowflake.
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Post by misto » 16 Mar 2018, 15:57

dont worry, youll both probably be neck deep in aliens in a few minutes and you wont have to worry about little things like titles and ranks as much

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Re: Female officers getting pissed off for improperly addressing them?

Post by Rio » 16 Mar 2018, 16:02

Both are acceptable, though saying "ma'am" is generally encouraged. That is unless they hold a special position which requires you to refer to them by title and not rank or commission like "Drill Instructor".

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Post by UnknownLife » 16 Mar 2018, 16:27

I think it honestly depends on the person, but calling the officer by their rank eliminates the problem entirely.

I know in Canada if you called a female officer a Sir, you'd probably have a nice conversation with someone of rank.
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Post by Staton » 16 Mar 2018, 16:38

i guess it depends on what military environment your comparing it to
on the US army side ive never heard of a female CO being called sir, it's just always ma'am because thats what they are
other countries/branches may do it different, not sure.
the USCM may also do it different, not sure what their regulations are either

its not a huge deal for them to get pissed off about though, and they shouldnt. simply out of respect you should just call them whatever they prefer if they correct you and life'll be easier for everyone.
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Re: Female officers getting pissed off for improperly addressing them?

Post by Simo94 » 16 Mar 2018, 18:25

but 'sir' is much easier to type lol
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Post by RobBrown4PM » 16 Mar 2018, 22:39

UnknownLife wrote:
16 Mar 2018, 16:27
I think it honestly depends on the person, but calling the officer by their rank eliminates the problem entirely.

I know in Canada if you called a female officer a Sir, you'd probably have a nice conversation with someone of rank.
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Re: Female officers getting pissed off for improperly addressing them?

Post by Heckenshutze » 16 Mar 2018, 23:28

It's totally acceptable from an IC point of view. "Ma'am" is the one to go is you want to avoid the problem.


But... that depends on the player, saying "Sir" isn't bad, it's neutral.
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Post by zoboomafoo » 17 Mar 2018, 00:33

Personally idgaf what you call me. Sir, ma'am, SO, LT, Lyla, whatever. It's just a name. That's just me though.
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Post by Forst » 17 Mar 2018, 09:18

As a SO I allow my squad informality, and sometimes sneak a bottle of booze or two their way either by sending it down with a private or having them search the bar.

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Post by KeyWii » 17 Mar 2018, 13:31

In the US Army, I've always heard and called a female officer ma'am in every interaction. I'm not entirely sure how it's like in other nation's militaries. Though I'm assuming in technicality, you could use Sir as a gender neutral term when it comes to rank.

Not that it makes much of a difference here in the long run, being a video game and all.
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Post by x31stOverlord » 17 Mar 2018, 17:05

British army Female officers are called "ma'am" and males "sir".

I go by this in every game, unless the lore specifically states that all officers are called Sir.

Sir to me is a Male identifier, given that it has been used in my Country for centuries to denote Knights and men of rank. Women of similar status are called Dames or Ma'am.

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Re: Female officers getting pissed off for improperly addressing them?

Post by Alky » 19 Mar 2018, 03:00

I get offended because Ritona is sometimes "He", I'm alright with the "sir", but it's tidbit better RP.

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Post by Torrentia » 19 Mar 2018, 09:08

Darn feeemale officers. Reee!
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Post by Unlimited_Juice » 19 Mar 2018, 09:27

Simo94 wrote:
16 Mar 2018, 18:25
but 'sir' is much easier to type lol
This is foremost in my mind whenever these questions arise. I'm going with whatever I can throw out the quickest.
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Re: Female officers getting pissed off for improperly addressing them?

Post by Beiler » 20 Mar 2018, 23:57

I go by gender specific terms, personally.
Easier for everybody, and I don't have to deal with the usual snowflake outcry if I decide not to.
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Post by Troika » 30 Mar 2018, 13:52

If someone starts making a stink over pronouns, that's a pretty good indication that they are a shitter.
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Re: Female officers getting pissed off for improperly addressing them?

Post by Zalgo » 01 Apr 2018, 01:58

Sir is generally the term used if you don't know whether someone is a Sir or a Ma'am. Once you know which they are, you just use that. Easy peasy.

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Post by HR171 » 12 Apr 2018, 20:48

In the UK and most commonwealth nation military's you call female officers and Warrant officers ma'am and male officers and WOs Sir
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