Oh fuck, here comes the chaplain

[QuackingFlack]

Am I the only one who really likes the CL, and thinks adding another RP role such as the chaplain would help spice up the story side of things? When we get fucked up and CO orders full retreat, he could be there waiting to get yelled at for offering to pray with people.

Maybe chappy ends up going down to the planet to bless the dead and kills a beno by throwing his cross at their head so it sticks out from between their eyes. Maybe he gets arrested for handing out too much communion wine to the PFCs before deployment. Maybe he helps balance out the CL's aura of corporate sleaze and as such they're natural enemies.

[simonset55]

A chaplain in a very diverse multireligious organization, which is probably made up of mostly atheists since being in spess with aliens and stuff kinda disproves religious doctrines.

Oof ow owie my RP

[QuackingFlack]

a very diverse multireligious organization

So, the corps IRL. A chaplain serves multiple faiths in addition to their own.

which is probably made up of mostly atheists

Doesn't mean the religious lobby isn't still powerful. This is dystopian corporate nightmareworld where governments are bought and sold to anyone with three cents to spare.

aliens and stuff kinda disproves religious doctrines.

Only high up WY execs and scientists know about xenos. Maybe one or two people in USCM high command. Or literally no one does, depending where in the cannon this takes place.

Oof ow owie muh immursion

Fixed that to be correct meme for you.

[Heckenshutze]

Implying our mighty lord jesuschrist wasn't an Engineer?

Shame.

Please add the Chaplain

[Aliannera]

Simply roll as a PFC (or any profession, bet medic would be fun) and RP it out. There's already a Chapel on the ship to do stuff with. Really, nothing's already stopping you from doing so.

Be that Deus Vult Crusader chaplain slaying the godless beasts, or be the shephard of your flock of marines. Maybe you'll only get a few who tag along, but it'll be appreciated by those that do.

[QuackingFlack]

Implying our mighty lord jesuschrist wasn't an Engineer? Shame. Please add the Chaplain

I do not mean to imply heresies - Indeed the savior was an Engineer, but his servants can not all be!

Simply roll as a PFC (or any profession, bet medic would be fun) and RP it out. There's already a Chapel on the ship to do stuff with. Really, nothing's already stopping you from doing so.

Be that Deus Vult Crusader chaplain slaying the godless beasts, or be the shephard of your flock of marines. Maybe you'll only get a few who tag along, but it'll be appreciated by those that do.

Holy shit, I actually didn't realize we had a chapel. Thank you for that information. That being said, roughly 10% of admins will warnbing/ban you for not deploying to the surface so I'd have to always be a deployed chaplain. An exciting prospect, but perhaps a bit lacking in RP. Also robes, crucifix/moon/star of david/pagan hammer would be fun little trinkets!

[begad]

I like ze idea of having a chaplain,It will add more diversity into rp

[Forst]

I want more civilian roles on board to actually give Marines an objective of getting them to safety. Maybe exactly enough to fill all of the escape pod slots so Bill Carson has to shoot a civilian so he can escape.

[solidfury7]

A few more civilian roles would be interesting but they'd have to make a lot of their own roleplay, which concerns me in the long run.

I'd like a chaplain but I know it'd be abused by memers to the point of draining all fun.

[Weaselburg]

I want more civilian roles on board to actually give Marines an objective of getting them to safety. Maybe exactly enough to fill all of the escape pod slots so Bill Carson has to shoot a civilian so he can escape.

He would shoot three so he gets a pod to himself.

[QuackingFlack]

I like ze idea of having a chaplain,It will add more diversity into rp

Yeah that was my exact thought too.

I want more civilian roles on board to actually give Marines an objective of getting them to safety. Maybe exactly enough to fill all of the escape pod slots so Bill Carson has to shoot a civilian so he can escape.

I remember him (I think it was him?) being some role and me being CMP. He was trying to evac against CO's orders. Managed to stun him and drag him out of the pod but he kept trying it like 3-4 times. Other Marines thought I was just trying to take his place on the pod and started helping him, and we got eaten by benos instead of making it to SD room like we were supposed to.

A few more civilian roles would be interesting but they'd have to make a lot of their own roleplay, which concerns me in the long run.

I'd like a chaplain but I know it'd be abused by memers to the point of draining all fun.

In what way were you thinking? Bans are pretty easy to come by on this server so I feel like it would get straightened out pretty quick. It's still MRP so I'm sure they can't just shout stupid things over comms.

He would shoot three so he gets a pod to himself.

They were a threat to the mission. Two civilians in a pod with him might cause an insurrection.

[solidfury7]

Yeah that was my exact thought too.



I remember him (I think it was him?) being some role and me being CMP. He was trying to evac against CO's orders. Managed to stun him and drag him out of the pod but he kept trying it like 3-4 times. Other Marines thought I was just trying to take his place on the pod and started helping him, and we got eaten by benos instead of making it to SD room like we were supposed to.



In what way were you thinking? Bans are pretty easy to come by on this server so I feel like it would get straightened out pretty quick. It's still MRP so I'm sure they can't just shout stupid things over comms.


They were a threat to the mission. Two civilians in a pod with him might cause an insurrection.

Chaplains roleplaying as doomsday hailers every single round. The more creative ones will probably start a crusade meme.

If it was a whitelisted role,I may consider it but as a role anyone can access, I struggle to see the benefits outweigh the cons.

[QuackingFlack]

Chaplains roleplaying as doomsday hailers every single round. The more creative ones will probably start a crusade meme.

If it was a whitelisted role,I may consider it but as a role anyone can access, I struggle to see the benefits outweigh the cons.

No reason it can't be WL. We've got synths and CO. Or you could just make doomsday prophesy shit against the rules - I doubt the corps would ship someone that mentally unstable.

[Wubs4Scrubs]

Having more non-combat RP centered positions really doesn't mesh well with the CM structure unfortunately. To my knowledge devs are aiming for 1-2 hour rounds and higher RP servers regularly go well over that. The largest issue with having these roles is that the only time people are shipside and free to do things is either in the ~20 minutes before briefing, if they get wounded and are waiting for the dropship, or marines have been booted off the planet and they're licking their wounds.

For the vast majority of the round then you aren't really going to be doing anything if you're shipside other than bothering doctors and MTs, which might not sound so bad but in practice would be boring as fuck. The CL can kinda just do whatever so long as he isn't interfering with the mission, but any other civilian wouldn't be able to do anything.

[QuackingFlack]

Having more non-combat RP centered positions really doesn't mesh well with the CM structure unfortunately. To my knowledge devs are aiming for 1-2 hour rounds and higher RP servers regularly go well over that.

RP servers don't have aliens. A chap won't impact their ability to rush the ship and tear his head off at all. What is you reasoning for his presence causing the game to extend? The absence of one PFC doesn't alter our lethality enough to make a Marine victory take longer. (smartgunner/engine/SL/medic roles are usually fought over)

The largest issue with having these roles is that the only time people are shipside and free to do things is either in the ~20 minutes before briefing, if they get wounded and are waiting for the dropship, or marines have been booted off the planet and they're licking their wounds.

Reasonable, but those are also the only time there's any real flavor outside of combat. There are some rounds where the CL makes things pretty interesting. To me it's like saying "Why put building models in the city? It's only in this one 30 second cutscene."

For the vast majority of the round then you aren't really going to be doing anything if you're shipside other than bothering doctors and MTs, which might not sound so bad but in practice would be boring as fuck. The CL can kinda just do whatever so long as he isn't interfering with the mission, but any other civilian wouldn't be able to do anything.

That's fine with me. I can think of other useful things to do with the chappy, actually - And he's not a civilian. He's a commissioned officer and would thus have a place in the command hierarchy below LT but above PO and Warrent Officer - So instead of a PO taking command when everyone is wiped, it would be chap. A super rare but interesting event, and it's arguable that someone who takes a difficult RP role is more suited for command anyways than someone who just wants to shoot CAS.

Some fun things to do as chap include: Intrigue with the CL who would be your natural enemy using your rank to your advantage on his lackeys (if he's a good CL who has lackeys), keep wounded Marines entertained when medbay is super backed up with coffee and sermons, give last rights to people sentenced to death, bless recently dead bodies for a 0.5% chance of a 'miracle' that saves their life, be the highest ranking officer alive and lead a crusade, and building an altar with candles and crayon runes to get a better chance of admins answering your prayers.

[Amitt0]

I like the Idea Personally even though my Characters are non religious. The rank of the Chaplain would be an interesting issue I think because in the Novel Catch-22 there is a Chaplain on base who is technically a captain but some of the officers just utterly disrespect him because he seemingly doesnt serve much of a purpose.

Therefore, if the Chaplain outranked enlisted men and thus was higher in the Chain of command despite not being combat oriented it could cause some IC contention among the crew.

I do like the sort of morality clashes and contests with the CL like you suggested in your post.

Interesting Idea.

[Lukey111]

Since the start of me playing this, I have always wished there were more roles. A lot of the roles have a specific job already, it would be nice if we added like... 5 assistants to assist an apartment, or to do little tasks. there could also be 2 DS monitors, and have specific roles (like surgeon, nurse, reactor specialist). I could go on forever, but I feel like chaplain would just be too much RP for this server, something that we don't need for more memes, like the idea of adding a clown for that reason would not work because this is a military vessel, and would never have a chaplain nor a clown.

[WinterClould]

If feel like many people would not take the roll seriously or would just LRP it to death. As much as I like the idea, I can hardly see a reason to risk people just fucking around with it like a vanilla SS13 Chaplain.

[Water Bird]

I don't know why people are so down on the idea of adding more flavour roles Almayer side. Being on the Almayer is always boring. Apart from the first 30 minutes, the support roles really don't do much RP. The MP's certainly do nothing except chase up a few survivor's or the rogue MT's who also have nothing to do. I'd love to see a chaplain who had CL privileges to go and drop with the men, or at least could stay at the FOB. You could even just allow him to ride up and down the Dropships to keep the wounded company.

I think there should also be an embedded war correspondent on the Almayer. If the admins are worried about it taking up PFC slots then they could make it an alternative to Chaplain, in other servers its usually the worthless librarian that can also be a reporter. All they'd need to do is put a few newscasters around the Almayer and maybe on the drop ships as well. A few of the maps already have newscasters but sadly they are empty of ink. As CL I've tried to run a WY sponsored newsletter before but there were too few newscasters and I couldn't find any ink on the maps. But a reporter could really add to the RP and help out the new joins. Also you could have squad pictures before and after the drops, a stupid reporter getting in everyone's way during a firefight or just asking the marines to shoot in the general direction of the enemy so they can take a cool photo like in real life.

[DukeOz]

I'd love to see it implemented into CM. As far as concerns w/ LRP, that is an issue that all roles face and people can simply be told to shape up or lose the right to play the role.

[Bosniak Rambo]

Personally I've always wanted to see a USCM Chaplain for muh arpee, but I do have concerns that it won't be used for anything besides "BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD" or "DEUS VULT". Perhaps that ought to be made clear in the role's roundstart text?

[QuackingFlack]

I don't know why people are so down on the idea of adding more flavour roles Almayer side. Being on the Almayer is always boring. Apart from the first 30 minutes, the support roles really don't do much RP. The MP's certainly do nothing except chase up a few survivor's or the rogue MT's who also have nothing to do. I'd love to see a chaplain who had CL privileges to go and drop with the men, or at least could stay at the FOB. You could even just allow him to ride up and down the Dropships to keep the wounded company.

I think there should also be an embedded war correspondent on the Almayer. If the admins are worried about it taking up PFC slots then they could make it an alternative to Chaplain, in other servers its usually the worthless librarian that can also be a reporter. All they'd need to do is put a few newscasters around the Almayer and maybe on the drop ships as well. A few of the maps already have newscasters but sadly they are empty of ink. As CL I've tried to run a WY sponsored newsletter before but there were too few newscasters and I couldn't find any ink on the maps. But a reporter could really add to the RP and help out the new joins. Also you could have squad pictures before and after the drops, a stupid reporter getting in everyone's way during a firefight or just asking the marines to shoot in the general direction of the enemy so they can take a cool photo like in real life.

I actually like your idea much better than mine. A WC would be fucking epic. I only think there's room for one new RP role.

[QuackingFlack]

I'd love to see it implemented into CM. As far as concerns w/ LRP, that is an issue that all roles face and people can simply be told to shape up or lose the right to play the role.

If feel like many people would not take the roll seriously or would just LRP it to death. As much as I like the idea, I can hardly see a reason to risk people just fucking around with it like a vanilla SS13 Chaplain.

Personally I've always wanted to see a USCM Chaplain for muh arpee, but I do have concerns that it won't be used for anything besides "BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD" or "DEUS VULT". Perhaps that ought to be made clear in the role's roundstart text?

I think Bosniak's idea solves this, combined with jobbans

I like the Idea Personally even though my Characters are non religious. The rank of the Chaplain would be an interesting issue I think because in the Novel Catch-22 there is a Chaplain on base who is technically a captain but some of the officers just utterly disrespect him because he seemingly doesnt serve much of a purpose.

Exactly what I was thinking

like the idea of adding a clown for that reason would not work because this is a military vessel, and would never have a chaplain nor a clown.

Military facilities in Afghanistan have chaplains, and do not have clowns. A starship is more like an outpost than a naval vessel, as it's crew will be deployed on it for long periods of time and those that ARE religious may be uncomfortable with not having religious services. After all, as one user mentioned, we DO have a chapel!

[spookydonut]

It's on the auto deny list for a reason

[kooarbiter]

I like the Idea Personally even though my Characters are non religious. The rank of the Chaplain would be an interesting issue I think because in the Novel Catch-22 there is a Chaplain on base who is technically a captain but some of the officers just utterly disrespect him because he seemingly doesnt serve much of a purpose.

Therefore, if the Chaplain outranked enlisted men and thus was higher in the Chain of command despite not being combat oriented it could cause some IC contention among the crew.

I do like the sort of morality clashes and contests with the CL like you suggested in your post.

Interesting Idea.

Well to be any kind of counselor or therapist today it takes years of work and there's lots of room for abuse from someone meant to be trusted by the mentally ill or emotionally damaged, if the uscm was to hire someone to give spiritual counsel, handling buriel rights, and hold sermons they would need to be an officer be ause you probably couldn't trust any enlisted fuckwit to do something this important