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Why did marines get the closets nerfed

Post by laserdogbad » 06 Jun 2018, 00:15

you can only take 2 medical pouches now, instead of as many as you want. the winrate for marines is already low, now we can't even load our satchel full of auto injectors.

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Re: Why did marines get the closets nerfed

Post by DasCorncakes » 06 Jun 2018, 02:27

Because people would take the auto injectors out of the medkits and fill their backpacks and leave all their trash all over the armoury floor for other people to pick up.

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Post by FearTheBlackout » 06 Jun 2018, 02:39

I was never a fan of it. I prefer to take a medical pouch and general light pouch because I'm a meme who likes to carry ammo.
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Re: Why did marines get the closets nerfed

Post by DefinitelyAlone0309 » 06 Jun 2018, 04:54

I don't know why we're focusing on PFC, when they can just refill their injectors with the DS's nanomed. Medics and Engis though, they got it rough. I find that I can't even get most of my old loadout unless I can somehow get doctors to give me supplies as a medic; and I've been hearing complaints from engineers saying that they are really struggling with the points system too.

I also don't really understand why we only have SMG attachments in the medic vendor, because if we have the ability to choose what we want, Req line would get cut down a lot, since someone like SG, medic, maybe engineer, already don't need that much stuff from Req.

But most of all, Req is stretched extremely thin right now. Between tank parts, supplies, and the extra materials they need to order since engineers now don't have enough; they really don't have a surplus at all.
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Re: Why did marines get the closets nerfed

Post by Renomaki » 06 Jun 2018, 10:23

laserdogbad wrote:
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load our satchel full of auto injectors.
I... Think that was the reason WHY they did that.

First aid pouches are supposed to be used in emergencies where you can't quite reach a medic in time, they aren't there to negate medics altogether.

There is a reason why they made 4 medics per squad the norm now, it is to make medics have more value in a round, rather than simply having marines be able to take care of themselves and make medics mostly redundant.

Besides, chances are you'd die before you made use of your backpack full of tricord injectors anyways, so if anything, it is just a waste. Evermore, you can easily just refill injectors at wallmeds, so why waste space?
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Post by Pogo92 » 06 Jun 2018, 10:42

And, First Aid and Pain Stop injectors received a 50% buff to their effectiveness. The Pain Stop Injectors are overrated, honestly, and the First Aid injectors are too strong for Marines to be using in bulk without devaluing medics. Bandages and Salve can do good work in taking you out of Pain Crit for mild to moderate injuries in a minute or two, and unless you're being overrun that's perfectly fine. If you're being overrun, well, that's the one thing the Pain Stop is there for anyways.
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Post by BillyBoBBizWorth » 06 Jun 2018, 10:46

Because first aid pouches littered the streets of London half empty.

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Re: Why did marines get the closets nerfed

Post by Light » 06 Jun 2018, 11:29

From my point of view, this is more a Buff for Engineers than anything else, yeah the rest of Marines aren't getting it right by the Aid Pouches.
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Post by kroack » 06 Jun 2018, 11:34

The point thing seems very game-y, if you know what I mean.

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Re: Why did marines get the closets nerfed

Post by Crab_Spider » 06 Jun 2018, 14:24

laserdogbad wrote:
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you can only take 2 medical pouches now, instead of as many as you want. the winrate for marines is already low, now we can't even load our satchel full of auto injectors.
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Post by solidfury7 » 06 Jun 2018, 15:29

I personally see this as a low key buff.

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Post by zoboomafoo » 06 Jun 2018, 19:19

I am glad they did this but gave us our injectors back. 10 extra units of tram and tricord goes a long way.
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Re: Why did marines get the closets nerfed

Post by Retrokinesis » 06 Jun 2018, 20:33

DefinitelyAlone0309 wrote:
06 Jun 2018, 04:54
I also don't really understand why we only have SMG attachments in the medic vendor, because if we have the ability to choose what we want, Req line would get cut down a lot, since someone like SG, medic, maybe engineer, already don't need that much stuff from Req.

But most of all, Req is stretched extremely thin right now. Between tank parts, supplies, and the extra materials they need to order since engineers now don't have enough; they really don't have a surplus at all.
This. I've never taken an SMG as a medic due to how ineffectual they are, but being able to grab the basic shotgun attachments I need (angled grip and mag harness) would mean I never have to go to req as a medic. Which would make the line go quicker for everyone else and give me more time to get to medbay for extra meds, since if req or medbay is slower than usual it's entirely possible to have to choose between missing the first drop or deploying unprepared.

My medic loadout is actually fine with the changes, since I specifically put it together to not be dependent on anything that could be taken by the other medics. And the engineering changes are a boon to latejoin engineers, since you don't walk in to find all of the materials gone. But it does seem to me like engineers probably need some quality of life tweaks to material costs or to be given more stuff to start with.
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Re: Why did marines get the closets nerfed

Post by ThatKazakhDude » 06 Jun 2018, 21:40

It is actually a good idea, because if you spawb in the middle of the round, you still can get all the necessary stuff for your loadout

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Re: Why did marines get the closets nerfed

Post by Cry of Wolves » 06 Jun 2018, 22:42

zoboomafoo wrote:
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I am glad they did this but gave us our injectors back. 10 extra units of tram and tricord goes a long way.
They already did. the injectors are back at 15 units.

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Post by caleeb101 » 08 Jun 2018, 05:10

It's a fair update but clicking the wrong pouch makes me wanna cry. Yesterday I clicked the pistol magazine pouch accidentally when I usually go double medi-kit pouch.
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Re: Why did marines get the closets nerfed

Post by Gnorse » 09 Jun 2018, 13:07

What if Requisitions had a number of items (pouch token, attachment token, backpack token) they could hand out so that marines can get more shit from their preps ?
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Post by yogurtshrimp69 » 09 Jun 2018, 13:33

You only get an additional backpack as well, one extra per marine + the backpack/satchel you spawn with, which means I can't come planetside with two backpacks in hand with nothing but ammo/supplies anymore... Sad days, made FOB defense fun ferrying things
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Post by InterroLouis » 11 Jun 2018, 18:45

yogurtshrimp69 wrote:
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You only get an additional backpack as well, one extra per marine + the backpack/satchel you spawn with, which means I can't come planetside with two backpacks in hand with nothing but ammo/supplies anymore... Sad days, made FOB defense fun ferrying things
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Post by Ttly » 11 Jun 2018, 19:26

The fact that FAPs are STILL 4 slots and we're back to OLD 15u INJECTORS and how EVERYONE GETS TRICORD injector now already makes up WAY MORE than the nerf.
Seriously, remember when all the nanomeds are raided for tricord injectors since that's the only source for them back on 3 slot FAP era?

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Post by Tetrino » 12 Jun 2018, 02:27

I just miss having a place to stow my USCM cap.
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Re: Why did marines get the closets nerfed

Post by TheMusician321 » 12 Jun 2018, 02:34

laserdogbad wrote:
06 Jun 2018, 00:15
you can only take 2 medical pouches now, instead of as many as you want. the winrate for marines is already low, now we can't even load our satchel full of auto injectors.

literally the reason why it was made this way.
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Post by Avalanchee » 12 Jun 2018, 02:53

Closets were better imo.
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Post by RaidenFTW » 13 Jun 2018, 11:52

This new system is a lot better for SGT/SL.

You can simply get a lot of AP rounds and one attachment, which wasn't possble when normal vendors were there. Also you can choose anything right now and come up with better builds. So yeah, it is a nerf for PFCs, but a buff for higher ranks.
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