Current status of Delta squad - Where are the Delta Mains and who the fuck is this guy?

[Sulaboy]

I've been thinking of dropping out of delta. There has been a large change in the squad since I started playing. Delta really likes to disappoint me sometimes. They do some of the stupidest shit because d e l t a r d s.

[CSolaris]

No baldie is going to choose Charlie because we're purple. All the summer boots are going to pick the BLUE SQUAD because of the color. Besides, broadcasting that Charlie is superior here on the forums isn't going to get them to move to Charlie - a majority of the summer boots only use the forums to appeal an EORG ban and that's it.

[TheDonkified]

Delta isn't what it used to be, but every single marine squad is full of incompetent baldies that don't know how to do basic stuff like shaking up their friends, not using SMG, or not using help intent in combat. Delta was a good squad because it was all memes but the people weren't bald and knew how to play the game. I don't trust alpha or bravo yet, and charlie has gone to shit compared to how it used to be. All in all, HERE COMES THE SUMMER BALDIES. Maybe when the old delta vets aren't deterred by how easy it is for xenos to win and people who are bald stop playing in delta, then we can perhaps recover delta back to a second golden age.

[Heckenshutze]

In my opinion all squads are shit currently, but Delta had it coming. Too much propaganda on forums/discord , the fact the oldies played there was a coincidence.

[Gnorse]

well this thread was certainly a trip.
anyhow, as a fomer (???) delta boy, I will say that it's been hit harder by the summer baldies than any other squad, mostly because they figured out that they usually get all the exciting tasks.
I tried bravo/charlie out and what do you know, there's some proper good people in there.
no alpha, though. Fuck alpha.

edit : there's also that one time I told three deltards to follow me so we could kill a lone queen right after she screeched. Lads just ran.
Needless to say, I was A B S O L U T E L Y L I V I D

[Arbs]

Its not a problem I can fix by changing my squad pref to something other than Delta.But rather something I can fix by getting any new faces to blend in with what i want the squad to be like.

Try going SL or being the SO for delta. Put a leash on the retarded unga things that retards do by actually putting a “serious face” every once in a while. Instruct the new players.

In the end you’re not much different than other squads. If youre given an objective or order, you have to make your best out of it.

Competence comes from walking the walk. Getting things done, whatever it is, whatever it takes. Just loudmouthing it has brought it to its current state of nothing but its former pride.

But thats from a command player perspective.

As someone who has had a delta preference ever since i was introduced to CM, i have to tell you that its about having a good time with your squaddies and buddies. It doesnt matter if you win or lose. Just try to be something of your own. And be decent with one another. Keep a lid on the lousy stuff, theyre not really that interesting.

Even if you fail, better luck next time, but thats not the point of it. You still had a good laugh, had the fun and you can just shake it off like that.

The best piece if advice I can give you is not to ask for attention but to rather give attention to your squad buddies. Form friendly relations and the bond youll create will pay off greatly.

Remember that also each moment has its own place in time. People come and people go in time, its just like that. Theres many reasons to it.

But whats inportant is that at the end of the round you can have something fun in your memories. I had some of my greatest moments when actually learning the game with kesserline especially, parker who introduced me to CM, sleepy was one of my first SLs, hans who tought me how to survive, or even those tiny plain but priceless interactions with murry and many good friends that I made along the way.

Things like that stick to me as a reason to keep it going somehow for delta.

You want to fix your problems, better do something about it. Jumping ship is the same as giving up.

[Rohesie]

I avoid Delta due to the high amount of toxicity. There were a lot of nice people as well because it also attracted the competent ones. But I really hope this exodus into Bravo and Charlie doesn't leave my purple squad with the toxic idiots or I'll be ousted from my squad.

[Drownie]

Avalanchee just answered himself, Delta used to be "The Cool Kids Group" until a flood of new members get in Delta, most of 'em obviously trying to be a cool kid.
This was followed by the leave of many Delta Veterans and good players turning our Delta in a obsolete Squad.

To be honest it seems that Delta have been better lately, most of new players have been avoiding Delta due it's fame and bad memes - while Delta is restructuring itself the other Squads seems to be getting worse.
I've been Charlie/Bravo SL for a good amount of months and it seems that we're losing player quality, I can't prove it but I got the feeling that compared to 3~4 months ago these two Squads have been losing a good amount of teamplay and quality

I blame it in the high-pop we've been receiving lately, we're reaching 200+ players and compared to 3~4 months ago this were a WOW momment, this combined with the new Xenos Buffs have been a good mix to make incompetency.

[Renomaki]

I said it before, and I'll say it again: I hate squad prefs due to the elitism that comes with it.

The squad you are a part of should mean SHIT, because in the end, everyone, and I do mean EVERYONE, is part of the MARINES, the FALLING FALCONS. I grow so tired of this constant infighting and popularity contest between the squads, people acting like their squad is better and putting down other squads because they aren't made up of cool or robust people.

What is it with people only wanting to be a part of the "cool" squads? Who CARES about whose squad is cooler, EVERY squad has their day! Quit lookin down on everyone who isn't part of your click.

[solidfury7]

Delta made its own bed.

Spamming delta major after every round ever is gonna attract attention.

Its the same way "Ice is nice" meme gets ice voted a lot.

Another issue with Delta is that theyre memey and that type of novelty stuff attracts the newer players. Its something which has always put me at odds with Delta as a squad.

But yeah, its usually better to try fix something rather than hopping around and hoping for the best. All squads have their ups and downs.

And leaving a squad because their are more likely new people in makes you lads sound pretty elitist, especially because I specifically remember some of the people here being taught by me.

Be the change you want to see.

[Sleepy Retard]

I said it before, and I'll say it again: I hate squad prefs due to the elitism that comes with it.

The squad you are a part of should mean SHIT, because in the end, everyone, and I do mean EVERYONE, is part of the MARINES, the FALLING FALCONS. I grow so tired of this constant infighting and popularity contest between the squads, people acting like their squad is better and putting down other squads because they aren't made up of cool or robust people.

What is it with people only wanting to be a part of the "cool" squads? Who CARES about whose squad is cooler, EVERY squad has their day! Quit lookin down on everyone who isn't part of your click.

I'll start off by saying the word is 'Clique'. We aren't clicking on each other. We're clicking on the xenos.

Two. Squad prefs is a GOOD thing. You were around for Banter and Sanctum. It is better to keep the cliques contained to open squads, rather than some private things. If a clique all goes charlie, is that better than a clique being spread across the squads and breaking off from them and going on their own? Or is it better than they go the same squad, with one or two being filtered across the other squads? Look at it like that.

[Imperaxum]

Picked Delta when I returned to CM recently because blue is my favorite color, don't know if I'm regretting it yet. Of course you get the highs and lows of a great squad filled with loyal squadmates vs. 1/5th of the marines are following the SL on the way to the first objective, but squads don't matter as much to a medic.

Delta always had the reputation of being the fuckups, so I'm just happily surprised when we have a good round these days, which seems decently often. It's only been two weeks back, so I think missed the "glory days" of Delta (as strange as that feels to type).

[Avalanchee]

Glory Days of Delta,
I still remember them.

Few months back, Delta was absolutely dominating non-coordinated hives. Prison station Max Sec/Med Sec flanks for example, PFCs rushed inside the hive with Shotguns and Flamers, Spec was keeping boilers out of action, engineers were building a foward outpost, SL was lazing the shit out of Xeno escape routes and marines just began slaughtering the xenos because they couldn't escape.
And this happened almost every round,
Commanders were always sending Delta on scouting.

[x31stOverlord]

Ah. So that's what happened to all the crewies from Charlie a few weeks back. They've migrated to delta. Excellent. Grapes back on the menu boys!

[Kibbles]

I might not be considered a 'true delta' or whatever by some, but I'm fully aware of what people are experiencing.

People are playing like it's free-for-all. There's little effort put in to help others, to communicate, and to work as a team. I myself am starting to just, dread playing at all in a combat or command role. It's just stressful to try working as a team, then have that 'team' leave you for dead for zero reason.

Oh, is someone unable to walk beside you? Grab them, and drag them to safety. Don't just leave them there for the xeno ten tiles away to slash to death. Get the battle buddy system going. Work as a squad, and you'll for sure have a funner experience. Most players really hate dying super fast. Try to prevent that from happening by working as a team. If you want a good squad you have to build it.

This reflects on us. For those of you that roll squad leader and such-- Take initiative. Play as a leader, not just some better equipped person. You've gotta make it clear to the baldies that marines /must/ operate as a team. Otherwise, this won't change no matter what the balance becomes. It's a fault on both sides.

[Urytion]

I might not be considered a 'true delta' or whatever by some, but I'm fully aware of what people are experiencing.

You're a Delta.

Mechanics aren't the issue with these new guys. It's communication and squad cohesion. The "glory days" of Delta were good because for the most part we stuck together in groups and were constantly communicating. Even if 90% of what we were spouting was memes, off colour jokes, and innuendos, the fact remained that we knew who was where doing what. These new guys wander off alone and get memed by a young runner.

[Rohesie]

I might not be considered a 'true delta' or whatever by some, but I'm fully aware of what people are experiencing.

Whoever says someone is not a 'true delta' or 'true charlie' is an idiot. And yes, Avalanche, here I'm looking at you.

If you main one squad you are a true member of that squad, period. We try to shape squads into our preferences and beliefs, but none of us is their owner. That kind of attitude is elitist as fuck and incredibly unfriendly to new players when based on how well-known one is.

I main Charlie, and if you willingly join Charlie, you are a Charlie to me. Bonus points if you join us at breakfast.

[Meatshield]

I suspect this "Delta was great" mythos is largely in your heads. As someone who rolls an SO a lot these days, I really can't see much of a difference in the squads. I do think Alpha tends to be the biggest squad, so when they do well, the marines do well.

I find mechanically good players can be a double edged sword, particularly if the XO or CO is a newbie. They'll do shit they want to do, contradict orders, and lose battles. They'll start to complain and even MPs will not arrest them. A Bill Carson round on Big Red was won by Alpha hitting the xeno rear when they hit tcomms. I think half of Alpha squad refused to follow that order because they weren't able to build two FOBs or didn't agree with the order, I could not even keep track of the numbers I had to report for insubordination, and we went through about six aSLs. I awarded medals to those who followed the orders.

A lot of SLs tend to die early and bravely before the going gets tough, sometimes the game is won by a suicide rush, that nerfs the xeno growth early but results in a squad being decimated. We beat the xeno on Ice Colony. Delta was wiped out very quickly (alongwith I think Alpha), but followed the orders to the letter, they killed a lot of xeno early on setting us up for a win.

I really think SOs should be allowed to give out a certain number of medals though. We had SOs quitting rounds because it can be very stressful and you are there for a long time, SOs are treated like utter garbage and have to stick around for the full round. If you have more than one squad it can be a nightmare. I would like SOs to get more privileges, like awarding medals and maybe even arresting priveleges.

[Steelpoint]

Delta used to, on average, be more competent than most other squads a long time ago in my anecdotal opinion.

Despite being past its glory day I still continually play Delta squad. Even if its a bit more suffering, but in my opinion all squads suffer from the large amount of people who don't follow orders as well or split up too easily.

[Heckenshutze]

Also, we could make a thread similar to this one about any squad and still get the same results, cycles come and go, years ago Alpha was the robust squad and delta were the crayon eaters, for example.

As veterans, we must work to teach the new players because they're the veterans of tomorrow.

[Royal Griffon]

As a Delta Spec on ice who got told by one of the Delta mains that was playing that round that I was a good aSL, I agree with this.
When Delta's main people are on and being Delta, I fear for the Xeno's safety cause from what I can see, they can get shit done. But these wannabes man, oh boy they give Deltard new meaning.

[nekcy]

Bring APR project back!

[FighterX2500]

There were several things like previous (Rahlzel seems want to change it) way of the server about 75% xeno winrate, administration issues which stopped me to continue playing on CM as well.
I didn't saw tank, warriors and defenders (thanks god), but seems it just became marine horror with unresistable faster-than-runner-one. I don't want to win 90% of time, but I surely don't want to lose 99% of time. For example, it is well known for competent xenos that the best way to take B18 down is to devour him. Now it is just warrior grabbing him and decap. Changes after changes I've became skeptical at the future of CM.
Quality != Quantity, this always was. Assuming fact that CM is the most populated server, newbies are highly flux, I've met a lot of man who just want to "equip, shoot the xenos and die" and not interested in tactics nor robust. Later they just exhaust their playability and leave the server.

However, due to recent changes, I'm looking forward to look at changed CM.

[Surrealistik]

Long story short, Delta got rep, and new people who superficially browsed the reddit/forums joined it in order to become street by association and bask in its reflected glory.

It was a victim of its own success.

[CCRWasHere]

I joined Delta because Apple Briggs told me during briefing one day that I don't belong in Alpha. I used to not have a preference checked because I thought that it decreased my odds of rolling smartgunner.
I used to think that getting your role was more personally important than which squad you were in. Delta has changed that way of thinking.

The lack of Real Marine Hours is just because it's summer. If you pay close attention, you'll notice that ALL the squads' quality has dropped. Once summer ends - when school starts back up - both CM and exhausted parents will finally be free from the horde of low-attention-span kids.

Same problem with 4chan and the like; summer starts → sharp decline of quality.