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Re: Marriage

Post by taketheshot56 » 27 Jun 2018, 03:51

In the Canadian Armed Forces two soldiers can be married, officer and enlisted, pretty much anyone as long as they are not within each others COC. The Almayer is a COC so I would imagine the rules are similar in the corps.
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Re: Marriage

Post by Bulaven » 27 Jun 2018, 08:29

It's amusing that this topic is still alive. Then again, given the nature of the topic, it's the perfect thing -To- keep alive for a chuckle.
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Re: Marriage

Post by Sleepy Retard » 27 Jun 2018, 11:15

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I'm in the US Army myself, and if say two people were married they would not be able to deploy together.
If I married you would we be deployed together
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Re: Marriage

Post by Lumdor » 27 Jun 2018, 11:46

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If I married you would we be deployed together
It's extremely difficult, especially if we have kids. :cutewink:
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Re: Marriage

Post by Nantei » 27 Jun 2018, 14:20

Many married couples deploy together. This isn't uncommon. There's even a program specifically for it where they try as hard as they can to deploy you with your spouse.

I am frankly shocked you haven't heard of it, Lumdor, because it is extremely common. 80% of married soldiers deploy together.

Why? Because it's very good for morale, and soldiers are more likely to kill themselves than be killed by the enemy. Honestly, I'm not saying there should be any in-game effects, it would be stupid if there was. I am saying it's an absurd rule to have considering how common it is in real life, and especially since it seems to have spawned from one problematic player who I am fairly certain would have been bad with or without marriage.

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Re: Marriage

Post by Lumdor » 27 Jun 2018, 14:33

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Might just be my shit unit then.
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Re: Marriage

Post by Westhybrid » 27 Jun 2018, 16:16

Nantei wrote:
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I am saying it's an absurd rule to have considering how common it is in real life, and especially since it seems to have spawned from one problematic player who I am fairly certain would have been bad with or without marriage.
It's going to stay a rule, because as much as you think it's a good idea, it's not.
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Post by Bulaven » 27 Jun 2018, 16:50

Nantei wrote:
27 Jun 2018, 14:20
Many married couples deploy together. This isn't uncommon. There's even a program specifically for it where they try as hard as they can to deploy you with your spouse.

I am frankly shocked you haven't heard of it, Lumdor, because it is extremely common. 80% of married soldiers deploy together.

Why? Because it's very good for morale, and soldiers are more likely to kill themselves than be killed by the enemy. Honestly, I'm not saying there should be any in-game effects, it would be stupid if there was. I am saying it's an absurd rule to have considering how common it is in real life, and especially since it seems to have spawned from one problematic player who I am fairly certain would have been bad with or without marriage.
Well. Kind of a moot point, since, even if it was allowed, it is ultimately up to the Commanding Officer, regardless of branch, whether or not a couple may serve in the same AO.
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Re: Marriage

Post by Casany » 27 Jun 2018, 17:02

No. It’s the fucking worst. It allows metabuddying and such fuckin cringe roleplay. If you wanna be married play on Para, or Cit.

Having had experience with when it was active, anyone who lots to get married ICly is a problem player. There has never been anything good from it happening. There’s no reason to unless you want to metabuddy.
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Re: Marriage

Post by taketheshot56 » 27 Jun 2018, 19:01

Lumdor wrote:
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Might just be my shit unit then.
No its not, no chain of command in their right mind would deploy a couple together in theatre or on the same ship. Same Base overseas? Maybe.
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Re: Marriage

Post by Nantei » 27 Jun 2018, 19:04

It is up to the CO, but it doesn't really change that they almost never would say no? The 20% of couples who don't deploy together is usually a slot issue. This really just sounds like, "I don't like it so boo." You are already allowed to remember other marines and retain knowledge of other marines, I do not see how marriage changes this literally at all.

Also it's currently NOT a rule in the new server draft so... moot argument in the end.

ALso no, Shot, it is his shit unit. That stat I cited is real, 80% of couples deploy together. It's very common.

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Re: Marriage

Post by Bulaven » 27 Jun 2018, 19:40

Nantei wrote:
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It is up to the CO, but it doesn't really change that they almost never would say no? The 20% of couples who don't deploy together is usually a slot issue. This really just sounds like, "I don't like it so boo." You are already allowed to remember other marines and retain knowledge of other marines, I do not see how marriage changes this literally at all.

Also it's currently NOT a rule in the new server draft so... moot argument in the end.

ALso no, Shot, it is his shit unit. That stat I cited is real, 80% of couples deploy together. It's very common.
Tell me. With all due respect... So you really think that a couple would be deployed on the same vessel, in the AVP universe, where, at this point in time, -Six- colonies have gone dark? What Commander wants to run the risk of someone going apeshit because their significant other just died in front of them?

Not me, for one.

Adding marriage, as stated before, would lead to pointless drama, and give some bass-ackwards Marine an entitlement complex to compel them to disobey orders because "My bae".

I do not want to be dealing with some shithead telling me to fuck off and endangering his/her/it's unit because of personal problems.
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Re: Marriage

Post by Lumdor » 27 Jun 2018, 19:41

Nantei wrote:
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You're right, mainly for the fact I don't think anyone in my unit even knows of that program. This is the first time I've even heard about it.
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Re: Marriage

Post by taketheshot56 » 27 Jun 2018, 19:48

Why dont you go ahead and actually post that 80% source you claim to have.
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Re: Marriage

Post by Westhybrid » 27 Jun 2018, 20:01

Nantei wrote:
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Also it's currently NOT a rule in the new server draft so... moot argument in the end.
Okay, then it should be equally fair play to separate and relieve coupled marines from duty for not disclosing their marriage (which they immediately can't), and so, when they inevitably try to through a fit about it (because again, in our past experience with this shit they always have), then any MP can brig them and leave it at that.

If that doesn't make sense to you, then this surely will. As someone who has seen multiple instances of cringe-marriage bullshit before it was cracked down upon at CM, if I catch you or anyone else trying to slide this shit under the radar as a Command role, expect to be playing your round from the fucking brig.
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Post by Torrentia » 27 Jun 2018, 20:06

This seems to be rustling some jimmies therefore I support it 100%.

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Post by Pseudomaniac » 27 Jun 2018, 20:11

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Re: Marriage

Post by Casany » 27 Jun 2018, 20:18

Westhybrid wrote:
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Okay, then it should be equally fair play to separate and relieve coupled marines from duty for not disclosing their marriage (which they immediately can't), and so, when they inevitably try to through a fit about it (because again, in our past experience with this shit they always have), then any MP can brig them and leave it at that.

If that doesn't make sense to you, then this surely will. As someone who has seen multiple instances of cringe-marriage bullshit before it was cracked down upon at CM, if I catch you or anyone else trying to slide this shit under the radar as a Command role, expect to be playing your round from the fucking brig.
This. Gonna be playing command a bit more now just so this marriage shit doesn’t happen
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Re: Marriage

Post by Nantei » 27 Jun 2018, 20:20

Westhybrid wrote:
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Okay, then it should be equally fair play to separate and relieve coupled marines from duty for not disclosing their marriage (which they immediately can't), and so, when they inevitably try to through a fit about it (because again, in our past experience with this shit they always have), then any MP can brig them and leave it at that.

If that doesn't make sense to you, then this surely will. As someone who has seen multiple instances of cringe-marriage bullshit before it was cracked down upon at CM, if I catch you or anyone else trying to slide this shit under the radar as a Command role, expect to be playing your round from the fucking brig.
Those are IC problems that can be dealt with ICLy anyways, I don't really see how marriage is exclusive to this. I've seen people be plenty cringe when they are just dating too. If people are being shits they will be shits, being married won't make them more or less shits. Honestly if you got butt devastated because you weren't assigned together that would make you an asshole regardless of relationship status.

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Re: Marriage

Post by Arbs » 27 Jun 2018, 20:24

anyone wanna marry?
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Re: Marriage

Post by Casany » 27 Jun 2018, 20:25

Nantei wrote:
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Those are IC problems that can be dealt with ICLy anyways, I don't really see how marriage is exclusive to this. I've seen people be plenty cringe when they are just dating too. If people are being shits they will be shits, being married won't make them more or less shits. Honestly if you got butt devastated because you weren't assigned together that would make you an asshole regardless of relationship status.
Look. Marriage gives people who want to be shit a better reason to be shit. And an easier way to be shit. Like, if I married an equally shitty player and they got arrested I’d have an IC reason to break them out and basically self antag. It just makes it easier to be a problem player, and it’s fucking annoying either way. I don’t get why people want this. It also allows meta-buddying. You probably weren’t around for the days of Echo squad and Banter, but those were just this on a large scale. They had to implement rules to get rid of that shit. It’s not a good thing. Like I said, I’ve been on CM since 2014 and I’ll tell you from personal experience all it does is lower the experience for other players who don’t want anything to do with this, and it just makes the server worse.
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Re: Marriage

Post by ColonelCorazon » 27 Jun 2018, 20:27

Arbs wrote:
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anyone wanna marry?
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Re: Marriage

Post by Nantei » 27 Jun 2018, 20:31

Casany wrote:
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Look. Marriage gives people who want to be shit a better reason to be shit. And an easier way to be shit. Like, if I married an equally shitty player and they got arrested I’d have an IC reason to break them out and basically self antag. It just makes it easier to be a problem player, and it’s fucking annoying either way. I don’t get why people want this. It also allows meta-buddying. You probably weren’t around for the days of Echo squad and Banter, but those were just this on a large scale. They had to implement rules to get rid of that shit. It’s not a good thing. Like I said, I’ve been on CM since 2014 and I’ll tell you from personal experience all it does is lower the experience for other players who don’t want anything to do with this, and it just makes the server worse.
I still have no idea what you mean when you say meta buddy. Because knowing marines between rounds is completely allowed, if not encouraged.

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Post by CaptainYankee » 27 Jun 2018, 20:38

ColonelCorazon wrote:
27 Jun 2018, 20:27
I am a HAPPILY married woman, good sir! And everyone knows I am the best at marriages. THE BEST.
Wanda has the high score on marriages. You should see the family get-togethers.
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Re: Marriage

Post by Daturix » 27 Jun 2018, 20:53

Casany wrote:
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Look. Marriage gives people who want to be shit a better reason to be shit. And an easier way to be shit. Like, if I married an equally shitty player and they got arrested I’d have an IC reason to break them out and basically self antag. It just makes it easier to be a problem player, and it’s fucking annoying either way. I don’t get why people want this. It also allows meta-buddying. You probably weren’t around for the days of Echo squad and Banter, but those were just this on a large scale. They had to implement rules to get rid of that shit. It’s not a good thing. Like I said, I’ve been on CM since 2014 and I’ll tell you from personal experience all it does is lower the experience for other players who don’t want anything to do with this, and it just makes the server worse.
Tbh sounds like "boo hoo people are having fun in other ways than a team deathmatch ss13"

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