Nonstandard Weapons

[Lorem123]

I'd like to hear some opinions on the weapons that marines can not start the rounds with. The wiki provides no real information on whether or not most of these guns are worth using.
I'm talking about guns like following:
HG Pump Shotgun
Custom Shotgun (The 2-shot burst one)
Double Barrel
Sawn Off Double Barrel
MP-27 SMG
MAR-40 Battle Rifle
M16 Rifle
Spearhead Revolver

Which ones are trash and which ones are good? I usually find myself taking an HG Pump if I can, since it seems to have a faster reload/fire rate than regular pump shotguns. The MAR-40 also seems to be far more effective than the M41A, and I hear good things about the double barrel shotgun w/ buckshot.

[DefinitelyAlone0309]

HG is nice. Faster than our normal M37, and more accurate, but doesn't have the same variety in attachment choice like M37

Custom Shotgun can be deadly, as xeno don't expect to eat 2 Buckshot at once. If the 2 shot burst applies for PB too, that's a dead xeno outside of Crusher and Queen.

Double Barrel. Meh, I've never used it much. Feels like reloading is a huge mess

Sawn Off. It's a nice last resort weapon, since you can basically store it in a lot of places.

MP-27 SMG. It's an SMG. Any SMG, not the PMC SMG or at least the FN one, is shit.

Mar-40 + M16. They're meh. Fire rate is too slow, and they have no AP to help with the slow fire rate.

Spearhead. It's a revolver that looks cool, I guess. Reloading is a bitch, but at least you get that nice flip.

[coroneljones]

Spearhead. It's a revolver that looks cool, I guess. Reloading is a bitch, but at least you get that nice flip.

Spearhead doesnt do the flip
Thats the S&W

[Nimiety]

I'd like to hear some opinions on the weapons that marines can not start the rounds with. The wiki provides no real information on whether or not most of these guns are worth using.
I'm talking about guns like following:
HG Pump Shotgun
Custom Shotgun (The 2-shot burst one)
Double Barrel
Sawn Off Double Barrel
MP-27 SMG
MAR-40 Battle Rifle
M16 Rifle
Spearhead Revolver

Which ones are trash and which ones are good? I usually find myself taking an HG Pump if I can, since it seems to have a faster reload/fire rate than regular pump shotguns. The MAR-40 also seems to be far more effective than the M41A, and I hear good things about the double barrel shotgun w/ buckshot.

The HG shotgun with a gyroscopic stabiliser attached is almost exactly like the gyro shotgun of old.
I've shot hivelords with the custom built shotgun and missed every shot, and I've shot empresses with it and sent them running -- runs out of ammo fast also.
The SMG isn't worth using, the spearhead can be useful if you cant find anything else as a survivor since it has burst fire at least.
The Mar-40 fires heavy rifle bullets, which aren't exactly AP but hit like a truck.
The M16 is an inferior version of the M41A.

[Lorem123]

So basically the HG shotgun is great with a riot shield, the MAR-40 is better than the M41A, and the custom shotgun is 100% luck

[Heckenshutze]

Double barrel is nice since you can fire 2 buckshots at once by clicking 2 times at once.

M16 is slow and has low ammo but like any "old age" weapon has a good punch.

[Lorem123]

The M16 seems to do more damage than the M41A, I have seen it break bones on marines pretty often where the M41A just tickles

[CABAL]

Double barrel is GOD. You can combo it slug-buckshot. Stun beno from afar, then come near to buckshot and then poke him with bayonet. Double slug/buckshot gives you certanity of stun. Best weapon to 1vs1 xeno in my opinion. I will always change standard issue marine shotgun for it. It is accurate, it is fast... This weapon even don't allow you to put shitty attachements besides gyro. Rail flashlight and bayonet is whay you need only.
If there would be an event with shotgun replaced by double barrel then beno mains would cry and cry to "balance it". One round, one salt shaker and it would get nerfed ASAP.

Sawn off on the other hand is crappy in my opinion, becouse I'm mainly slug user, but I can see it's potential in robust buckshot hands.

MP-27 is just a cousin of M39, maybe a little bit better becouse I doubt devs tried to nerf it, since nobody uses it. I think it shoots faster.

HG Pump Shotgun seems to be just like marine counterpart.

Well... All those weapons are probably better becouse I think nobody was messing with their statistics.

[Miranda]

I always try to carry sawn off instead of belt before now they nerfed it's aim? useless
Double barrel is just takes plase witch can be used for better guns.
HG is a better standart shotty without any attachments.
Spearhead deals less dmg and burst is useless cus it had delay of 1 sec between shots -> WASTE OF AMMO
MP-27 is funny toy.
M-16 is useless.
MAR-40 is good in expert hands. IF you hit with each shot you can own any caste. Sadly ammo is scarce and mercs only have few mags with them.

[CABAL]

I always try to carry sawn off instead of belt before now they nerfed it's aim? useless
Double barrel is just takes plase witch can be used for better guns.
HG is a better standart shotty without any attachments.
Spearhead deals less dmg and burst is useless cus it had delay of 1 sec between shots -> WASTE OF AMMO
MP-27 is funny toy.
M-16 is useless.
MAR-40 is good in expert hands. IF you hit with each shot you can own any caste. Sadly ammo is scarce and mercs only have few mags with them.

What? What standard issue PFC marine gun is better than Double Barrel? What can beat nearly instant two slugs, or buckshots?

[Dolth]

HG does less damage than regular shotgun.
Sawn off is basically a regular shotty with BC and wider spread, if you use it with PB you -will- kill any t2 up to ancient lurker. Thougj don't try slug or regular buck. MAR is great against humans and predators with the high pene/damage. And double barrel is great in robust hands. Spearhead has shit damage. Never used M16 and MP27 can be fun. Was great dual wielded.

[Miranda]

HG does less damage than regular shotgun.

Where did you get that? It's same dmg and same ammo.

What? What standard issue PFC marine gun is better than Double Barrel? What can beat nearly instant two slugs, or buckshots?

All of them is better. Two shots of buckshot or slugs is only good if you actually hit and only if there is one enemy. If you love it, USE IT. Me? I better stick to m41.

[Dolth]

Since I used HG gyro for lot of rounds recently as its higher rate of fire was an advantage for PB and melee cuckshots.

HG PB doesn't instacrit young t2 and elite t1.
M37 does.

Just that. Now go check damages if you don't believe m-BWOINK- ok nevermind, trust me bro.

[Miranda]

Since I used HG gyro for lot of rounds recently as its higher rate of fire was an advantage for PB and melee cuckshots.

HG PB doesn't instacrit young t2 and elite t1.
M37 does.

Just that. Now go check damages if you don't believe m-BWOINK- ok nevermind, trust me bro.

Well if so then it was made not long ago cus i used it many times and didnt feel any difference.