The HPR. Is it really worth it?

[KingPhilipIII]

Recently when I become the RO, it's become my custom to buy atleast one HPR, mod it for rapid fire and give a marine that along with a surplus box of ammo (600 rounds).

Consequently, I've also heard people talk shit about me wasting points on it, so I just wanted to discuss it here and say y'all can fuck off, the thing is great if you aren't smooth brained. I've heard plenty of reports from competant marines that when used as intended, a suppressing fire weapon, they rack up plenty of kills. If you give it a QF and a vertical grip topped off with a recoil compensator it can spit out bullets like nobody's business. That's why I give them the surplus ammo box too. If you put it in someone that's trigger happy but doesn't rambo to the front and get ganked by a ravager charge, they can actually do a great job.

If you put a barrel charger on it, you should be ashamed. You're basically making an overglorified pulse rifle with a lot of boolets at that point.

Anyone else have something to say?

[ThesoldierLLJK]

Your suggestion along with a muhreen on hyperzine makes them unstoppable. A literal berserker

[carlarc]

fucking recoil comp, nice meme lol

[ThePiachu]

I mean, if you have points to spare, HPR is not a bad investment. I would hold off on it until you get your tank and spec ammo sorted out though, so probably not buying it until like an hour into the round. You could always send it in a drop to the FOB.

[DefinitelyAlone0309]

Recoil Comp lul

Onto the topic, HPR isn't shit, but it's just too damn expensive to claim that it's worth it when you can get 10 AP M41A mags with 40 points. Are you saying that somehow a slightly better M41A beats out 10 FUCKING AP MAGS WITH 20 POINTS TO SPARE (24 after the crate+form refund) ?

So yeah, HPR isn't the worst thing to spend your points on per say, but there're just so many better things to invest into rather than an HPR that only one dude can use.

[Tetrino]

>recoil compensator

If a marine isn't field stripping that thing off the moment they exit the req line they're probably an Alpha

[Dirt]

as ro i prefer the emergency supply crate spam tactic, really unbalanced in the current meta. HPR ain't nothin' compared to the amount of oxygen tanks you can dish out.

[Combine]

If you can indeed instead get about a dozen AP mags for the same price or less, I'd rather dish out those mags and give 5 Marines 2 each or so where multiple can benefit instead of a "rapid spitter" only one can apply at a time in one place.

Especially in later stages where you may need the penetrating power on a wide front you benefit more from several dudes spitting AP than one spitting a lot of normal bullets in my eyes.

I like the thing and all and would like to have it at times but if I had to chose from a request or command perspective I'd rather improve the firepower of several Marines a bit or notably than notably improve the fire rate of one Marine.

TL;DR Use it if you have points to spend, otherwise buy more nades, mines or AP mags. Or metal for cades.

[DefinitelyAlone0309]

If you can indeed instead get about a dozen AP mags for the same price or less, I'd rather dish out those mags and give 5 Marines 2 each or so where multiple can benefit instead of a "rapid spitter" only one can apply at a time in one place.

Especially in later stages where you may need the penetrating power on a wide front you benefit more from several dudes spitting AP than one spitting a lot of normal bullets in my eyes.

I like the thing and all and would like to have it at times but if I had to chose from a request or command perspective I'd rather improve the firepower of several Marines a bit or notably than notably improve the fire rate of one Marine.

TL;DR Use it if you have points to spend, otherwise buy more nades, mines or AP mags. Or metal for cades.

Really, you can just keep on buying AP mags and ammo boxes until the costs of both have gone way past the HPR's 60 points, and it'll still be more worth it to buy the AP than to spend it on a shitty HPR.

[RevealingFortune]

The HPR should honestly just get a spec of it's own. Maybe let smartgunners choose to run it as opposed to smartguns as 'heavy weapons support'. It's a big, expensive meme right now that'll just get melted on the battlefield as soon as the marine (potentially baldie) carrying it gets lovetapped.

[Karmac]

honestly it's more the type of thing that should be an option in SL vendors as a way of boosting general squad firepower, the gun's not much better than a pulse rifle all things considered, but the insanely large magazines and scare factor make it worthwhile

not really the kind of thing I'd bother ordering from RO personally though, you've got better things to spend points on

[Chaznoodles]

HPR is never worth it except for memes, get more AP instead. As soon as benos take note that someone has it, say bye to those points.

[Kibbles]

I hate seeing HPRs bought at round start. Especially when two are bought.

The chances of even a robust marine using it and not dying fast is just not worth the risk in my opinion.

Just open the weapon crate in the backroom and hope you get the rare HPR spawn. I've had it happen once before. Better, pray to the gods and make a sacrifice.

[solidfury7]

HPRs are a big target for xenos.

It's better to have AP spread out between marines rather than having one slightly stronger marine.

[carlarc]

I hate seeing HPRs bought at round start. Especially when two are bought.

The chances of even a robust marine using it and not dying fast is just not worth the risk in my opinion.

Just open the weapon crate in the backroom and hope you get the rare HPR spawn. I've had it happen once before. Better, pray to the gods and make a sacrifice.

chowder replaced that crate with one that has 50 mres.

[Grubstank]

I want to see an RO strategy where they hand out a single AP mag to as many marines as possible and send down a bunch of AP ammo boxes for easy resupply on the front

AP boxes would become actually efficient to buy if everyone can use them, rather than just the special few snowflakes who monopolized the AP supply ( who probably end up dead soon enough anyways)

[Kibbles]

chowder replaced that crate with one that has 50 mres.

Welp, guess that has use and all.
But I miss lottery weapon crate

[FGRSentinel]

Honesty I'd rather Req stock up on extra AP mags for latejoiners or people who need to replace their kit for some reason than spam HPRs. Hell, they tend to run out of AP mags in the roundstart attachment rush simply because whenever someone asks for AP they throw 3-4 mags their way and don't bother ordering more, so if you're not the first person in line, the chances of there being AP left when your turn comes up drops rapidly every time either line moves. Nothing quite as unfun as being that PFC that has to fight a defender or Crusher with just standard bullets because Req doesn't know how to properly ration the AP mags or buy more when they run out.

[Kibbles]

I usually spend points on building mats, mortar, tank, and spec ammo. If there's a request for AP ammo or I can save the points I'll try, but most of the time it's more necessary to get mats since uh.

"RO"
"Alpha needs fob crate
>"I sent a crate?"
"They don't have it"

(Ten minutes after sending mats again)

"RO, bravo needs FOB supplies alpha engies are bald. Bravo is FOB now, but we don't have mats and FOB is non-existent."

[DriedMilk]

no it isnt

[Sora9567]

I usually spend points on building mats, mortar, tank, and spec ammo. If there's a request for AP ammo or I can save the points I'll try, but most of the time it's more necessary to get mats since uh.

"RO"
"Alpha needs fob crate
>"I sent a crate?"
"They don't have it"

(Ten minutes after sending mats again)

"RO, bravo needs FOB supplies alpha engies are bald. Bravo is FOB now, but we don't have mats and FOB is non-existent."

I was in that round as a Bravo SG. Dude, the situation was terrible. Alpha had no one covering North Nexus or Hydro roads and marines were getting picked off and killed by two lurkers. It wasn't fun.

[Xennith]

I love the HPR, and have had occasions where it has been a big contributor to my personal success, or my squad's overall performance.

But it just isn't economical for you to be ordering as RO.
The sad truth is that unless you know a particular marine is an effective AE2 automatic rifleman beforehand, just giving one or more out to whoever asks is generally not a good plan.

That said if a Squad Leader asks for an HPR, it's worth considering, and if a B18 Heavy Armor spec asks for one you should feel obligated to provide it.
B18 with a pimped HPR is secretly the new meta but only a few people have realized it.

I agree with the ideas of finding ways to make the HPR available as a squad leader weapon, similar to the flamer, without the huge tax on requisitions points.

[Steelpoint]

HPR is a nice weapon, but I don't think its strong enough for the point cost attached to it. In the past where you got two rifles or even more it'd be fine but its overpriced.

Making it a weapon the SL can buy would be interesting, but I recall a long time ago a Dev/Apop said they wanted to avoid giving the SL's special guns to avoid people playing the SL just to get the unique gun.

[carlarc]

give b18 a free hpr

[Crossbow7734]

I think they should give a HPR instead of GL to B18 spec, because there are many people who dump GL "coz it's shit".