The absolute state of HEFA grenades

[JJG]

I motion to remove HEFA grenades outside of HvH rounds!

Or at least for Commanders and ROs to stop giving them out.

HEFA grenades kill more marines than aliens, while at the same time managing to never even kill a single xeno.
This is no joke, I have never seen a HEFA grenade kill an alien!

All HEFA grenades are good for is killing marines, why do they even exist...jesus fucking christ.

[conthegodoffire]

HEFA grenades were good for a short while when they were first added. Then came the nerf that messed them up. (RIP)

But no, I would like to see the damage to xenos upped a bit and it would be fine.
Also if you have never seen a xeno die by one of these you are not at the front much.

[Avalanchee]

GET A REST MACRO
AVOID THE SHRAPNEL

AAAA

[carlarc]

HEFA under any xeno erases their HP, abuse this

[Tetrino]

I got tackled next to a HEFA and was down when it went off but I still got shrapneled aheal pls

[Swagile]

ive killed a queen with two well placed HEFA's alongside another PFC

but for every queen kill by HEFA is 20 marines killed by HEFA

[JJG]

I need to start recording matches so I can make a "Best of HEFA" compilation. Legendary FF.

[Vispain]

Do it and link

[FGRSentinel]

I remember a last stand where I tried to throw a HEFA grenade over a marine that was knocked down. They got up right as I threw the grenade so it landed in the cades and shredded every last survivor on the Almayer and instakilled me. Someone actually demanded that the person who brought the grenades should end themselves and I said "well, I brought them and I threw the grenade that basically disintegrated me, so I'd say I already did that." It got a good laugh but I felt horrible for the massive FF incident.

[Vispain]

I think it’s easy to say... HEFA is a actual marine nerf in every round not involving HVH.

I know we meme the tank as a nerf but this is HEFA statement is a reality, Not a meme sadly.

RIP HEFA, we love you but you are scary and hurt us

[Archiezt]

I used to bring out the box during roundstart req, and absolutely nobody would ask for them.

This is during Australia lowpop, so I wouldn't know, but as far as I'm concerned it's already reached the stage of people just don't care to take them and I don't even bother bringing them out.
Granted, I also don't do groundside terribly often myself, so I can't speak for how effective they are in combat.

[CABAL]

I like HEFA, becouse I don't use grenades during fights in fear of FF'ing. HEFA is great to deny larvaes when you are captured. I didn't tested it yet at full health, but I guess you can die even after being glued to the nest ASAP.
Everything to not give xenos satisfaction/killerboner.

Normal nades are fucking joke, explosion in your hand does really nothing. Nothing to the point of me "plotting" that there is some line of code that decreases dmg in certain occasions.

[JJG]

I used to bring out the box during roundstart req, and absolutely nobody would ask for them.

This is during Australia lowpop, so I wouldn't know, but as far as I'm concerned it's already reached the stage of people just don't care to take them and I don't even bother bringing them out.
Granted, I also don't do groundside terribly often myself, so I can't speak for how effective they are in combat.

Spawn as RO at round start. Hand every marine one HEFA grenade as a free giveaway. Cryo and catch first Larva spawn, watch as the Marines constantly blow themselves up, win by 12:40

[Archiezt]

Spawn as RO at round start. Hand every marine one HEFA grenade as a free giveaway. Cryo and catch first Larva spawn, watch as the Marines constantly blow themselves up, win by 12:40

We're all playing a 2d fart simulator and this man is playing 4d chess

[Tetrino]

[Avalanchee]

[Sulaboy]

The HEFA is the superior suicide grenade, however the HEDP can accomplish the same goal, and in a pinch it can be used offensively.

[JJG]

The HEFA is the superior suicide grenade, however the HEDP can accomplish the same goal, and in a pinch it can be used offensively.

You do see the irony of a grenade that is only really effective for suiciding?

[FGRSentinel]

Can we all just agree to start calling HEFA grenades suicide cans? That's literally what they are.

Tetrino, was that the round where the Charlie Spec nuked you and the Charlie SL before Delta's SL melted his face off?

[Tetrino]

Nope that was the Delta B18 that robusted me and then himself with an incendiary like two minutes later.

[Mister Jeether]

Yup, as sayed above, HEFA is literally only usefull for suiciding. Its jackshit to kill anything other then other marines, and the little damage the Shrapnel does to xenos makes me cringe.

Conclusion? Its a marine Nerf.

[JJG]

If you play B18 and don't exchange your HEFA grenades for HEDP you should be Battlefield Executed when you come out the Req line.

[Swagile]

HEFA nades are only good against Queens and slow T3's like boilers.

But considering how niche situations where you can down a Queen or Boiler with HEFA, and the precision it takes to properly HEFA nade a Queen trying to screech, means its a very high skilled, niche, medium return grenade.

HEPA, however, stuns everything (even T3's if placed right), so its infinitely better; and it doesn't annihilate a marine if it lands on them; it just does some breakage, whereas HEFA instantly kills.

TL;DR HEFA way too niche and needs too much skill to be effective, whereas HEPA needs less skill and has more return.

[KennyTGuy]

So does resting guarantee to avoid the shrapnel of a HEFA grenade or just chance? Can you also take damage regardless of resting if you're too close?

[DefinitelyAlone0309]

So does resting guarantee to avoid the shrapnel of a HEFA grenade or just chance? Can you also take damage regardless of resting if you're too close?

As long as you're not directly on the HEFA tile, you can rest to completely avoid every shrapnel. And no, you don't take anything like proximity damage at all.