MP Whitelist, Council & Overhaul please

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Re: MP Whitelist, Council & Overhaul please

Post by waswar » 13 Dec 2018, 10:38

KennyTGuy wrote:
13 Dec 2018, 00:26
I imagine as a CMP you could just delegate the task to an MP and stay on the ship.
Going planetside without the need to do law enforcement is grounds for neglect of duty, at least accordingly when I ahelped for something.

When my usually pro-corporate character was swayed into believing W-Y was doing crimes against humanity, the CO said that investigation was approved when I briefed him on it, and I faxed HC a briefing of the situation. Shortly after I ahelped and was told both that it was neglect of duty, and that they didn’t recommend sending an MP but instead asking a marine, which didn’t go anywhere as the marines weren’t doing too ducky. Anyway, that’s the impression I got.
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Re: MP Whitelist, Council & Overhaul please

Post by Enigmachine » 14 Dec 2018, 06:56

waswar wrote:
13 Dec 2018, 10:38
Going planetside without the need to do law enforcement is grounds for neglect of duty, at least accordingly when I ahelped for something.

When my usually pro-corporate character was swayed into believing W-Y was doing crimes against humanity, the CO said that investigation was approved when I briefed him on it, and I faxed HC a briefing of the situation. Shortly after I ahelped and was told both that it was neglect of duty, and that they didn’t recommend sending an MP but instead asking a marine, which didn’t go anywhere as the marines weren’t doing too ducky. Anyway, that’s the impression I got.
Hopefully Emerald will get around to answering my question about this topic in Rules Clarifications soon. Some CO's like to use MP's like the Custodes from 40k. I.e. we have a designated function (police the Almayer) but if there's some miscellaneous task that Command, namely the CO themselves, want taken care of in trustworthy manner they often come to us.

I love that as an MP main. It breaks monotony without needing some admin event. Some staff, though, take the view that they should exclusively be law enforcement. Which I understand but frankly the idea of MP's being the select few marines that command absolutely, totally trusts and can therefore be involved in sensitive, special issues is much more fun on top of being practical and, in my opinion, realistic.

Like, what did the staff you spoke to expect to come of asking an unga to handle that? That they'd drop their helmet and pickup a fedora and go noir detective for some issue they hadn't RP'd at all before getting told to?

If I can change topic from that, I want to say here that I think all CIC officers should get the MP channel in their headsets. I.e. SO's and the XO, in addition to the CO. Because from what I've seen staff enforces their loyalty; they cannot mutiny. As it stands now, an SO is the perfect fly on the wall for misbehaving squads. If, however, they want to let MP's know about what's going on they have spill the information all over the place by either using Almayer or Command comms. If you have a proactive CMP or CO they can work around this by handing out MP Keycards but I've yet to see that happen. I personally had Mueller pass me a keycard when I SO'd Charlie one round when they were being shit and it helped me help them preemptively stomp out seditious behavior. Plus it was fun.

Mueller's player, Bancrose, though is staff. I've already written about that. He was a line MP at the time and I personally would have never done what he did without superior approval. I'd love to, some rounds, but again there's that apprehension about any slip up or unwritten rules.
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Re: MP Whitelist, Council & Overhaul please

Post by Blade2000Br » 14 Dec 2018, 09:46

Radio chatter from command roles was removed due to abuse. People would often call MPs names... For quite a while. And then said command players would tell who the MPs were after so the guy could hide/die without being brigged.
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Re: MP Whitelist, Council & Overhaul please

Post by Enigmachine » 14 Dec 2018, 09:57

Blade2000Br wrote:
14 Dec 2018, 09:46
Radio chatter from command roles was removed due to abuse. People would often call MPs names... For quite a while. And then said command players would tell who the MPs were after so the guy could hide/die without being brigged.
IC'ly we have aiding & abetting now to react to this, which would also be stackable with NoD since it would be an officer doing it. Depending on what the marine did that officer could get smacked with an easy perma or firing squad.

The types who initiate disturbances tend to band together when one of them first gets penalized, which leads to them all exposing their natures and then being brigged or otherwise dealt with. So I think that all this would mean would be that shitbirds nesting in CIC would get weeded out.
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Re: MP Whitelist, Council & Overhaul please

Post by Bancrose » 14 Dec 2018, 17:39

An MP Revamp, Maybe more slots but not a whitelist or a council for it.
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Re: MP Whitelist, Council & Overhaul please

Post by Smov » 28 Dec 2018, 09:45

I believe there would be only a CMP whitelist as he is bound to the law and requires heavy RP experience. MPs by the other hand should be oppened, because if you want to RP as CMP you have to gain experience from somewhere

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