The Commander Whitelist: How many are aiming for it?

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The Commander Whitelist: How many are aiming for it?

Post by Renomaki » 20 Nov 2016, 23:48

As sad as I am that Admirals were trashed and were replaced with a new whitelist for the Commander job, I feel this could bring good things to command staff.. Mainly in that we'll have commanders that are serious about their job, instead of people who just started and ended up getting the job when they shouldn't have.

Just imagine it: No longer will you have commanders that go SSD within the first 20 minutes of a match, mute commanders that leave you hanging, people that can't give a proper SPEECH during briefing to save their lives. We won't have anymore "Dumb 'Fat' Guys" as commanders, memesters, and general incompetence.

The only downside, however, is the negative stigma commanders have. While Predators are glorified and sought after (despite the reality that being a pred is hardly exciting), most people don't even LIKE being commander, and avoid it when they can. This is mainly due to the habits of marines blaming command for everything, no matter how hard they try to be a good leader despite all the shit that happens to them. Naturally, no one likes being shat on constantly and yelled at by his own marines. I myself admit I don't go CO often due to the stress and frustration that comes with it.. But that doesn't mean I'm not going to apply.

How many folks here are going to apply to be CO? Do you think it'll improve the quality of leadership? Or will it all just be one big disappointment?
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Re: The Commander Whitelist: How many are aiming for it?

Post by Eonoc » 20 Nov 2016, 23:51

I enjoy being Commander, personally. It's fun sending marines screaming to their deaths, and then cowering in the bridge when it all goes wrong. In all seriousness, though, I enjoy the role, and will be aiming for a spot on the whitelist.
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Post by Nick123q23 » 21 Nov 2016, 02:51

I usually prefer to stay as an XO or BO honestly. Some people just don't like being responsible for everything going wrong.
I think, over time, the commander whitelist will give us quality people. but until then, there's going to be a lot of commander less rounds if the whitelist has the same scrutiny as the predator whitelist.
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Re: The Commander Whitelist: How many are aiming for it?

Post by KASHINO » 21 Nov 2016, 09:44

i think the shitty commanders are funny and we should bring them back

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Post by Egorkor » 21 Nov 2016, 11:32

depending on the severity of the whitelist it may be a problem as the players'll just stop playing
but shite command is a traditional problem for CM so if it will help fix this, why the fuck now. we'll see how it goes.

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Re: The Commander Whitelist: How many are aiming for it?

Post by Boltersam » 21 Nov 2016, 11:51

I think XOs can fill in until applications start being made and people who want, and are deserving of the role, get to it.

And no, I'm not aiming to get it. I know where my talents lie, and leadership is not my strong point.
At least, leading immature "Adults" (And I use the term loosely) is not my strong point.

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Post by Edgelord » 21 Nov 2016, 12:42

Despite my earlier critcisms of the role I've found a good Commander round to be extremely fun. I'd definitely apply for a spot on the list.
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Post by NescauComToddy » 21 Nov 2016, 12:58

I prefer the dumbs commanders but have to confess that the rounds with good COs are epics!Still, i will miss those memestars that kill every marine they can with they orders
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Post by apophis775 » 21 Nov 2016, 16:36

Admirals aren't trashed. Admirals are still going to be an event thing, as they were originally being designed. There was a miscommunication issue and some people were a bit overzealous in announcing/preparing for it's implementation.
Anyway, the way COs will work, is that when you apply it will start a yes/no vote with your application. Everyone can vote yes/no. If it passes, you'll be added to the whitelist.
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Post by Dunril » 21 Nov 2016, 20:43

I've done bridge officer a few matches, enjoyed it. I decided that it was a natural evolution to try my hand at commander, I had Youbar under me and he was a good adviser, marines had a major victory that round, I enjoyed setting up plans - and seeing SLs follow through, and marines stick with their squads. I'll likely play Commander and give it an application.

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Post by Renomaki » 21 Nov 2016, 21:07

apophis775 wrote:Admirals aren't trashed. Admirals are still going to be an event thing, as they were originally being designed. There was a miscommunication issue and some people were a bit overzealous in announcing/preparing for it's implementation.
Anyway, the way COs will work, is that when you apply it will start a yes/no vote with your application. Everyone can vote yes/no. If it passes, you'll be added to the whitelist.
Hrm, I look forward to seeing this in action, since I plan to apply.

If admirals aren't trashed, though.. Will it still be possible to apply for admiral someday?
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Post by apophis775 » 22 Nov 2016, 02:30

Admirals are "events"
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Re: The Commander Whitelist: How many are aiming for it?

Post by Recounted » 22 Nov 2016, 21:35

apophis775 wrote:Admirals are "events"
How often will Admirals be events? I'm guessing they will be called up if command can't get shit right which happens every 2 rounds
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Re: The Commander Whitelist: How many are aiming for it?

Post by Neray » 22 Nov 2016, 23:45

How to be a good commander:

1) Search if there any admirals around. If none, move to step 5.
2) Locate one of admirals.
3) Drug him and sell his naked body to alien queen.
4) Go back to step 2 until all admirals are done with.
5) Move on.
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Post by Renomaki » 25 Nov 2016, 08:20

Neray wrote:How to be a good commander:

1) Search if there any admirals around. If none, move to step 5.
2) Locate one of admirals.
3) Drug him and sell his naked body to alien queen.
4) Go back to step 2 until all admirals are done with.
5) Move on.
Sounds like someone doesn't like admirals.
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Re: The Commander Whitelist: How many are aiming for it?

Post by Edgelord » 25 Nov 2016, 12:39

Neray wrote:How to be a good commander:

1) Search if there any admirals around.
2) Locate one of admirals.
3) Attempt to drug him and sell his naked body to alien queen.
4) Get shot by mateba
5) Spread salt in dchat
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Post by Neray » 25 Nov 2016, 17:20

Edgelord wrote:ftfy
> implying they're robust
Renomaki wrote:Sounds like someone doesn't like admirals.
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Post by Mook476 » 25 Nov 2016, 19:16

Neray wrote:How to be a good commander:

1) Search if there any admirals around. If none, move to step 5.
2) Locate one of admirals.
3) Drug him and sell his naked body to alien queen.
4) Go back to step 2 until all admirals are done with.
5) Move on.
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Re: The Commander Whitelist: How many are aiming for it?

Post by Youbar » 25 Nov 2016, 20:50

The Commander whitelist will hugely improve the quality of leadership on the server. The people who choose the position will actually be people interested in the role, rather than a baldy signing up for something they have no idea about.
It won't create an issues, either, when it comes to an absence of a commander. The executive officer can step in, or even a bridge officer, as their role requires them to do so.

That aside, I plan on applying, and being the first player accepted onto the whitelist. I'm hoping that my sheer competence at the role will overcome the issues (e.g bans) that I've had on this server previously.
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Re: The Commander Whitelist: How many are aiming for it?

Post by poopbutt69 » 26 Nov 2016, 16:48

i like commander. usually i random name it and roleplay it. i usually win, i've played commander like 7 times and we won 5 of those times.

whitelisting would actually work better (at least rp-wise) with the idea of commander than predator. if you look at predator white list applications, they don't really convey if someone is actually good at combat. so the irony is a lot of predators are great rpers, but get their ass kicked a lot. which i feel, ironically, rp-wise is counter intuitive.

for commander though, the whole point is of them is to rp, and their ability to perform combat is kind of irrelevant. so really, if anyone should be white listed it should probably be them.

additionally white list would build up recognition for names, for instance, bill carson is a well known commander, and so when he is commander its easier to rp, or when xur is commander its easier to rp, because they have a kind of reputation, as a commander probably would.

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Post by Psilo » 30 Nov 2016, 03:56

I dread the day all commanders are competent. All military's have had their share of bad commanders and I for one think it is a treat to have bad CO giving ridiculous commands. Not all the time, but as a rare occurrence to spice things up.
No I don't want CO's that go SSD in 5 minutes either or can't mutter a full sentence all round, but if all the commanders are voted in, I feel like it will create a homogeneous pool of commanders by the means of popularity contest. Also you don't need to be popular to be a good commander, which I feel that the "vote in" system promotes.
I'd much rather vote commanders off for valid reasons (ie: Not able to communicate.) than vote them in. Just my 2 cents.

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Re: The Commander Whitelist: How many are aiming for it?

Post by Heckenshutze » 30 Nov 2016, 11:26

Is the closest job to HoS back at Goonstation where you need to watch EVERYTHING. even your own Captain, so i would apply for it.
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Re: The Commander Whitelist: How many are aiming for it?

Post by Dapper Stache » 30 Nov 2016, 17:52

I'm not a huge fan of the idea of a commander whitelist, mostly because I do like to see that variation that you guys have already mentioned. However I've enjoyed my commander rounds and the stress and thrill of trying to hold your op together. I've won a lot of them, much to my surprise. I'll definitely be applying.
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Post by Hakul » 01 Dec 2016, 03:05

Ah yes finnaly we will get Actual commanders who know what they are doing and not just ordering suicide charges or setting FOBs up in the god damm worst places

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Post by Imperator_Titan » 01 Dec 2016, 16:17

I loved it when commanders ordered suicide charges, it was quite funny to watch both dchat and the charge itself while it's happening. Although I didn't do any myself since I didn't want to die 10 minutes into the round, it's a bit sad to see the bald commanders go.

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