Updated Honor Code Coming

[Feweh]

This is the updated Honor Code.
Nothing has changed in regards to additions or removals... I simply got tired of people not knowing the honor code and clarified a lot of things
Read it, go through it and see if you notice anything that players might not understand or would like changed/addressed clearer.

This is the predator code of honor. Anyone who is a predator will be REQUIRED to follow it (along with the predator rules). It's the equivalent of Marine Law for Predators, except it's included as something you MUST follow in the rules. If you're whitelisted IT IS YOUR RESPONSIBILITY TO CHECK IT FOR UPDATES BEFORE YOU PLAY AS A PRED.


Disclaimer: Predators are considered ANTAGs, they may and will kill you and are to be treated much like any Alien-like hostile Marines would encounter.


Honor Code applies to all Predators actively hunting and on the hunting grounds. The Honor Code is granted to specific classes of prey which designates which intent or weapons they may use upon that target.
Please note, classification applies to individuals and groups.
• Predators Hunting Worthy Prey = NO cloak-killing, No plasma casters
• Innocent & Unworthy Prey = NO lethals, disables ONLY, may cloak to disable/avoid
• Dishonorable Prey = NO restrictions, cloak-killing and plasma casters permitted.

Hunting Worthy Prey - Predators specifically hunting prey must ensure that their target meets the following requirements:
• Prey has lethal weapons/lethal abilities or has shown lethal intent through actions. (Lethal intent: Has killed previously or given others orders to kill/harm, ie; Commanders/XO/SOs)
Examples of Worthy prey:
• A human is wielding a rifle or has said rifle stored on his back/belt
• A scientist is issuing orders to others to kill Xenos/humans/Predators
• A Xeno is actively moving around the map and not engaged in a current fight.
• Prey insulting a Predator or initiating a challenge to them (ie a doctor/survivor/marines insulting the Predator)


Dishonorable & Innocent Prey - Predators MAY NOT hunt the following targets:
• Any prey who are unable to fight to their full potential due to disabilities, injuries or pre-occupations.
Examples of Dishonorable/Innocent Prey:
• A human/xeno who is wounded, missing their limbs or ill from disease. (Injuries caused from Predators make them viable to be hunted later should they escape)
• Any prey xenos/humans who are assisting wounded, dragging others to safety or performing critical actions to assist others (ie. an MT setting up a FOB despite having a sidearm equipped)
• Innocent and non-combat roles. A Doctor/Researcher/MT/Drones/Hivelords/Cargo/Synthetics (Variables may change these select people from being innocent to worthy given their actions)

Unworthy Prey: Predators may dispatch/kill/disable the following targets by any means available.
• Unworthy Prey is defined as any prey who is unworthy of the honor code and intentionally or unintentionally disrupted the Predators hunt. These individuals (or groups) may be engaged by the Predators using their full force (cloaking, Plasma Caster) and abilities to kill or disable them.
• Killing/Murdering a fellow Yautja is the worst possible crimes. (Outside of an honorable duel).
Examples of Unworthy Prey:
• Any prey who flees from an honor duel, heals mid duel, or intentionally receives assistance from others during said duel. This also includes other individuals who interfere with a duel, drag away, or protect the body of the Predator's victim.
• Any prey or group who actively pursues/engage the Predator themselves, who the Predator is not hunting/disrupting. (Groups defending a FOB/Hive or defending others are not considered dishonorable)
• Any prey or group who steal, loot or capture a Predator. This will result in all Predators engaging any target interrupting or interfering with the retrieval of items/predator.
• Any LOW RP actions, such as hugging the Predator while they’re RPing, force-feeding Predators, ninja-looting Predators while RPing and IC metagaming. (Saying ICly the Predator won’t harm us because you meta-ed the rules)
• Attacking a Predators lodge at all times is considered dishonorable and full force will be met to repel attackers both humans and xenos.

Predator Honor Duels
Predators may challenge other predators or prey (mostly humans) they deem worthy to "honor duels". The challenger MUST provide the challenged with an appropriate hand-to-hand weapon. Ranged weapons are FORBIDDEN against each other (you may use a ranged weapon to chase away unruly observers or people who interfere). The duel must be fought as honorable as possible, but is to the death (however, it's recommended that if you knock them down or disarm them, you let them recover if they can before a final blow).
Humans and Xenos CANNOT challenge a Predator, constantly pursuing a Predator with melee weapons demanding to fight a duel will label you as Dishonorable Prey.

Mercy
Those who defeat a Predator in a fair Hunt (or honorable duel) and show Predators mercy are to be considered our equals. You must bestow them with a reward or gift and alert fellow Predators of their victory. Predators may also show mercy to an honorable prey who fought well or out-smarted the Predator, the Predator may take an item or limb from said Prey as a trophy and allow them to live.

Claiming the kill of another Predator
To take the trophy of another Yautja, living or dead, is considered to be a great insult. If a Yautja is engaging prey in combat you should not interfere unless directly given permission, no matter how powerful the prey might be. However you may assist a fellow Predator from dishonorable prey interrupting their hunt. (ie; A marine trying to disrupt an honor duel)

Self-Destruct
It is considered greatly dishonorable for your body to be captured and your gear/technology looted. The most honorable death is bracer self-destruct and MUST be done whenever death or capture is close. The loss of life, even if many innocent are surrounding you, is not your concern. However, use your judgement upon self-destruct as generally it adds more RP to die on the Almayer rather than blowing up and potentially killing a large portion of the playerbase.

Code Violations: Those who break the code are renegades, and no longer considered to be a Yautja. (You'll be banned from being predator ever again) - EXCEPTION: For RP events, Admins (not mods) may authorize a single predator to function as a "bad-blood" and be hunted by the other predators.

EXCEPTION: Elders (A "super-special" type of predator that is granted by Head staff to exceptional Yautja Players) may make exceptions to this code for role-play or game progression reasons with Admin direction (meaning, an Admin will tell YOU which parts you can ignore; don't ahelp asking to murderbone) similar to how Weyland Liaisons can sometimes get exceptions to the standard rules. These will be reserved primarily for ROLE PLAY SITUATIONS. So, if you see a predator breaking the honor code, there is a chance it may be legal. Your best bet is to wait till the end of the round (or the predator’s death) to see what the staff say about it. Normally, if they were given special exceptions, they'll be set as a traitor and have specific goals (which should appear after the round).


In additional, a new rule will also be added clarifying that Predators cannot go inside Xeno Hives or the Almayer without reasonable reason.
ie; Stolen Tech, Captured Preds, Prey retreated to Hive/Ship, Unexploded Predator bodies etc.

[Nubs]

Thanks feweh, that clears up a lot of grey areas.

[Renomaki]

"Predators Hunting Worthy Prey = NO cloak-killing, No plasma casters "

Don't you mean no ranged weapons at all? Or are things like throwing spears still legit?

Just making sure this wasn't an oversight.

[Feweh]

"Predators Hunting Worthy Prey = NO cloak-killing, No plasma casters "

Don't you mean no ranged weapons at all? Or are things like throwing spears still legit?

Just making sure this wasn't an oversight.

Youre allowed to use the Spike Cannon, it's a viable weapon to hunt with, same with throwing spears
The Sniper one falls under a Plasma Caster

[Boltersam]

Regarding IC metagaming, this would include throwing away weapons to meta the code, ya?

This does clear up everything so that it clearly clarifies how hunting works and acceptable targets. In particular, this helps people understand when the big guns get used.

Question, assuming you're dying on the Almayer and are unable to escape (EG: Being hunted down), would it be reasonable to explode in an out of the way/unused area, like maint?

[Nubs]

Ok, just so i'm touching all bases.

Situation 1: You're hunting a ravager, during the duel you shoot and kill it with the plasma rifle/caster. - dishonourable.
Situation 2: You're hunting a ravager, but it flees. You shoot it with the plasma rifle stunning it and kill it with your sword. - Honourable?
Situation 3: You're hunting a xeno, but a ravager charges you and misses. You shoot the ravager with a full power plasma cannon then kill it. - Honourable?
Situation 4: A marine shoots and injuries you. You cut his arm off but a medic arrives. You kill both him and the medic, or badly hurt the medic - Dishonorable.
Situation 6: A marine shoots and injuries you. You cut his arm off but a medic arrives. You stun the medic and drag off your prey and kill him. - Honourable?
Situation 7: A marine approaches the lodge and calls you a 'ugly motherfucker'- you stab him with your wrist blades
Situation 8: A marine is at the lodge but not doing any harm. You hack his head off - Dishonorable?

Thats all the specific scenarios i can think of for now, might have more.

[Feweh]

Ok, just so i'm touching all bases.

Situation 1: You're hunting a ravager, during the duel you shoot and kill it with the plasma rifle/caster. - dishonourable.
Situation 2: You're hunting a ravager, but it flees. You shoot it with the plasma rifle stunning it and kill it with your sword. - Honourable?
Situation 3: You're hunting a xeno, but a ravager charges you and misses. You shoot the ravager with a full power plasma cannon then kill it. - Honourable?
Situation 4: A marine shoots and injuries you. You cut his arm off but a medic arrives. You kill both him and the medic, or badly hurt the medic - Dishonorable.
Situation 6: A marine shoots and injuries you. You cut his arm off but a medic arrives. You stun the medic and drag off your prey and kill him. - Honourable?
Situation 7: A marine approaches the lodge and calls you a 'ugly motherfucker'- you stab him with your wrist blades
Situation 8: A marine is at the lodge but not doing any harm. You hack his head off - Dishonorable?

Thats all the specific scenarios i can think of for now, might have more.

1. Thatss dishonorable of you.
2. Yes, hes fair-game to be plasma castered as he fled
3. Yes, that ravager is fair games hes interfering
4. Disable the medic, kill if he becomes a bigger problem.
5/6. Yes preferable
7. Depends how close to the lodge and if hes unarmed or not.
8. Depends how close and what his intent.

[Feweh]

Regarding IC metagaming, this would include throwing away weapons to meta the code, ya?

This does clear up everything so that it clearly clarifies how hunting works and acceptable targets. In particular, this helps people understand when the big guns get used.

Question, assuming you're dying on the Almayer and are unable to escape (EG: Being hunted down), would it be reasonable to explode in an out of the way/unused area, like maint?

I personally never explode on Ships.
But it really depends on the situation.

[northcote4]

Call me pedantic.

Under 'Dishonourable Prey':

• Killing/Murdering a fellow Yautja is the worst possible crimes. (Outside of an honorable duel).
I know this definitely refers to Yautja on Yautja combat, however I'd like to ask just to make absolutely sure: If a human or xeno kills a yautja, but does not loot the body, do they receive any specific designation?

Also will 'Abominations' be regarded as Dishonourable Prey in all circumstances? As in PredAliens and anything else you guys might cook up (Zombie Preds? Unlikely, but just covering bases).

And under 'Mercy':
Are we doing away with the 'Treat them as your equal or detonate and kill you both' part for good?

Addit. Regarding:

Situation 2: You're hunting a ravager, but it flees. You shoot it with the plasma rifle stunning it and kill it with your sword. - Honourable?\
2. Yes, hes fair-game to be plasma castered as he fled

Is it though? I read through it a couple times but its possible that I've missed something, but wouldn't the ravager still be classed as 'worthy game' unless it was an honour duel that it fled from, not a hunt?

[Kerek]

Xenos don't get duels, they get hunted from what I understand.

[Nick123q23]

As the normal, shoulder-mounted plasma caster has different settings, would these situations be acceptable?

While moving around the hunting grounds, a predator is fired upon by marines. The predator then fires at the marines on the low 'stunner' setting. Honorable?

While hunting a ravager, the predator uses the medium plasma rifle setting to soften it up enough to kill the ravager with their wristblades. Dishonorable?

Is there a policy on switching hunting targets? Say a predator was originally hunting a xeno hunter, but then a praetorian comes into view and the previously hunted hunter is now interfering with the hunting of the praetorian?

[Boltersam]

Now that I'm less tired,

Regarding unworthy prey. How do we treat them if they trespass on the Lodge? I understand that if they're actively stealing things makes them dishonourable prey, but the Code doesn't make any mention of trespassing.

For clarification: Either right outside or inside the Lodge building, or close and was warned.

[Feweh]

As the normal, shoulder-mounted plasma caster has different settings, would these situations be acceptable?

While moving around the hunting grounds, a predator is fired upon by marines. The predator then fires at the marines on the low 'stunner' setting. Honorable?

While hunting a ravager, the predator uses the medium plasma rifle setting to soften it up enough to kill the ravager with their wristblades. Dishonorable?

Is there a policy on switching hunting targets? Say a predator was originally hunting a xeno hunter, but then a praetorian comes into view and the previously hunted hunter is now interfering with the hunting of the praetorian?

1. Acceptable.
2. Not allowed and against the honor code.

You can switch targets if yours is completely lost or becomes unworthy. (ie; keeps running off to avoid you, hides in a group of marines/xenos)

[Feweh]

Now that I'm less tired,

Regarding unworthy prey. How do we treat them if they trespass on the Lodge? I understand that if they're actively stealing things makes them dishonourable prey, but the Code doesn't make any mention of trespassing.

For clarification: Either right outside or inside the Lodge building, or close and was warned.

Use common sense on this, you can tell when someone accidentally stumbled by and is just passing through... compared to someone who is there intentionally trying to break in or attack the lodge.
Same goes for xenos.

[Feweh]

Flipped Unworthy and Dishonorable as per Apops suggestions

Unworthy now describes prey that arent worthy of the Honor Code

Dishonorable Prey / Innocent Prey are those that would bring you dishonor for killing.

[ShortTemperedLeprechaun]

AS northcote asked, the stance on abominations of any and all sorts?

[Rain7x]

I like this one better. Makes the "pred kill me no honer" ahelps a lot less common.

[Feweh]

AS northcote asked, the stance on abominations of any and all sorts?

Free game, theyre OP as fuck anyways

[Nubs]

Free game, theyre OP as fuck anyways

Having been one, and killed one as a pred, I can agree with this.
What would be acceptable if a marine/marines are at the lodge but refuse to leave even after warnings or rp ? stun them? scare them off?

[Feweh]

Having been one, and killed one as a pred, I can agree with this.
What would be acceptable if a marine/marines are at the lodge but refuse to leave even after warnings or rp ? stun them? scare them off?

Use common sense.

[northcote4]

Feweh, this is me being nitpicky still, but can you just clarify this one for me?

Situation 2: You're hunting a ravager, but it flees. You shoot it with the plasma rifle stunning it and kill it with your sword. - Honourable? - Nubs

2. Yes, hes fair-game to be plasma castered as he fled - Feweh


Why is the Ravager now fair game to be plasma castered? It did not flee from a duel, it fled from a hunt. And from what I can see its only fleeing from an honor duel that makes someone Unworthy.

[Feweh]

Feweh, this is me being nitpicky still, but can you just clarify this one for me?

Situation 2: You're hunting a ravager, but it flees. You shoot it with the plasma rifle stunning it and kill it with your sword. - Honourable? - Nubs

2. Yes, hes fair-game to be plasma castered as he fled - Feweh


Why is the Ravager now fair game to be plasma castered? It did not flee from a duel, it fled from a hunt. And from what I can see its only fleeing from an honor duel that makes someone Unworthy.

IF youre fighting the Ravager 1 vs 1 and he runs off because youre winning, you can take him down with ranged weapons to stop him from running away.

(especially because all Xenos can pretty much outrun and outheal preds)

[northcote4]

In additional, a new rule will also be added clarifying that Predators cannot go inside Xeno Hives or the Almayer without reasonable reason.
ie; Stolen Tech, Captured Preds, Prey retreated to Hive/Ship, Unexploded Predator bodies etc.

Yo Feweh, I've noticed this is missing from the official rules in Apop's post. Was it an oversight, removal, or something else?