Youbar's Commander Whitelist Application | Yamagata Aritomo

[Snypehunter007]

Of course I'd be unable to take criticsim if the criticism is not grounded in reality.

What do mean "not grounded in reality"?

[Youbar]

What do mean "not grounded in reality"?

It has no basis in fact. I find it exceptionally petty that I'm being given "no" votes for arguing about how game mechanics need to be adjusted to fit the narrative of the metarush rule, that I'm being scolded for giving my honest opinion of other players, and that I'm "unable to take criticism" when I feel the tiniest elements of the ban I received months ago weren't entirely fair.

[LocalizedDownpour]

I simply do not trust you based on your attitude

[MrJJJ]

I actually trust Youbar, and if people really think his behavior didin't change and attitude, then you were not back in 2014-2015 era, because he acted like a child, a very annoying child that i simply wish would have went away, his now 9000% better than i have first seen him ever, since i read his posts back then, i see him as mature and fit, and let's be real here, the metarush is dumb as shit anyway.

EDIT: I found the post that apparently snype considers spiteful, seriously now?

You authorise an execution, and follow all the appropriate steps. However, before you can attend to the execution, a military police officer kills the individual. What do you do?

Someone please explain to me how is this spiteful?

[LocalizedDownpour]

He is also calling other players 'too memey' among other things, not asking them about command style. So he is doing the same thong he is criticising others for.

[Jroinc1]

Hmph. I've actually flipped my vote twice so far, but I'm settling on +1.

He can and has been a competent and non-toxic CO, and took the time to put out a well written guide to command, so I say give him the chance. Worst case, you get removed, right?

[Youbar]

He is also calling other players 'too memey' among other things, not asking them about command style. So he is doing the same thong he is criticising others for.

I've since apologised for this, and adjusted my initial response to the application as is necessary to make it far more civil.

I was out of line in what I said there, and I apologise for it.

[LocalizedDownpour]

I've since apologised for this, and adjusted my initial response to the application as is necessary to make it far more civil.

I was out of line in what I said there, and I apologise for it.

I think that goes a long way and shows you're not as spiteful as others may think you are, and I'm willing to revert my vote because of this.

[doodeeda]

From what I've read from Youbar, I agree with some of the things he says regarding metarush. There's no reference to "12:45" or any guidelines regarding "metarush" in the official rule page from what I've seen. If marines are being dragged over the river, it is nonsensical for a commander to prevent marines from crossing. That being said, the commander shouldn't order all the troops in briefing to camp near the river to provoke that, obviously.

[Snypehunter007]

I actually trust Youbar, and if people really think his behavior didin't change and attitude, then you were not back in 2014-2015 era, because he acted like a child, a very annoying child that i simply wish would have went away, his now 9000% better than i have first seen him ever, since i read his posts back then, i see him as mature and fit, and let's be real here, the metarush is dumb as shit anyway.

EDIT: I found the post that apparently snype considers spiteful, seriously now?



Someone please explain to me how is this spiteful?

JJJ the reason it is perceived as spiteful is due to the fact that it was what he was originally CDR banned for and posted it on Slc's (the person who banned him) CDR application.

[Renomaki]

Damn, the votes here are intense.

I think Youbar will have probably the tightest race to election, with the votes constantly neck in neck.

I feel bad for him because of this, because his election to CO is quite uncertain.

[MrJJJ]

He is also calling other players 'too memey' among other things, not asking them about command style. So he is doing the same thong he is criticising others for.

http://cm-ss13.com/viewtopic.php?f=141&t=10197

And....thats it
No seriously, i have not found him insulting anyone else expect in that topic, and even then he changed it to be better.
I think you may have misspelled and meant to say "another player" instead of other players, and Youbar hasn't been a meme in since what, like, for half a year by now or more?

EDIT: Youbar pointed this out already

JJJ the reason it is perceived as spiteful is due to the fact that it was what he was originally CDR banned for and posted it on Slc's (the person who banned him) CDR application.

Youbar's Question:

You authorise an execution, and follow all the appropriate steps. However, before you can attend to the execution, a military police officer kills the individual. What do you do?

His Ban Reason: (word for word from Slc97's mouth)

I see you hold some spite over your jobban. You were not jobbanned for not attending the execution. You were jobbanned for improperly announcing it after it was already preformed. It being already preformed was not your fault, but the improper announcement was. That coupled with you ordering a metarush by having marines set up an FOB in the caves at roundstart all in the same round is why you were jobbanned from CO.

He was banned for not announcing it properly, and asked Slc a question what would he do if a MP kills the prisoner before CO attends it, there is no spite in that comment, sure, its semi-related, but its not spite, it would be within your right to treat it with a grain of salt if he was implying towards his jobban (like "but you forgot to properly announce it, what do you do?") but he doesn't say that, he asks essentially what can actually happen and HAS happened before, you are over-reacting for a mod.

[NoahKirchner]

Unrelated from drama, which seems to be what a lot of this post is and a lot of the reason for the -1's, Youbar is a good commander. This is part of the reason why I think having Commander sign-ups is a bad idea. It's not just a popularity contest, but people will vote for people based on other character aspects that have absolutely nothing to do with their competence as a Commander, but ultimately just how they feel about people. A lot of people don't like Youbar, they're going to vote no. If you've ever seen him play a Commander, you'd no he's more than competent, and problably within the top 10 best Commanders I've seen on the server. That is all.

[solidfury7]

Giving him my +1.

One of the best commanders out there and understands the value of role play from what I've seen.

I'd rather make my own assessment than follow the crowd.

[doodeeda]

+1. Don't see anything wrong with giving him a chance in the whitelist. Doesn't seem to me like he's a "random baldie" that'll screw things up constantly.

[Martzin]

Youbar's a pretty competent and mature guy, so I trust him.
He's also a pretty good roleplayer.
+1 for you my friend.

[Arkatos]

It is absolutely obvious now that you are putting lots of effort into this and you are even able to apologize when you were mistaken, which I value greatly, therefore I have changed my mind aswell and you got my +1 vote. Good luck... commander.

[Rocco Ward]

I've seen Yamagata as a commander when I've played marine and xeno. He was pretty competent IMO, I didn't see any orders or strategies that struck me as signs of a bad CO.

[apophis775]

Approved, but remember it can easily be removed if yer being a shitter as a commander.