Jenner - CO application

[JennerH]

Byond ID:
JennerH

Player name you use the most:
Madison 'Spicey' Delaney

Make a list of links to all of your applications and (job)ban appeals, including whitelist and staff apps, within the last year. Also, provide "Ban reason; Verdict" beside each (job)ban link:
viewtopic.php?f=149&t=16232 Synth app (accepted)
viewtopic.php?f=87&t=16384&p=182681&hil ... 47#p182681 researcher Jobban appeal (lifted)

Do you understand that any player - even donors or staff members - can have their whitelist status revoked should they break our Server Rules or Roleplay Guidelines?
Yes

Do you understand how the Battlefield Execution functions?
Yes

Do you understand you are not above Marine law, or allowed to enforce it yourself?
Yes

What do you think is the job of a Commander?
To lead the CiC and help develop a strategy that will lead the men of the Falling Falcons to victory.

If a member of your staff is disobeying orders, how would you handle it?
Attempt to make them aware of their mistake, and help them follow orders appropriately, and if they still continue to act in such a way, report them to the CMP for insub

Why should you be whitelisted?
I believe I'm capable of playing a role as important as CO and I'd like to be able to lead the Almayer properly. I think I could add unique strategies to the round and increase the overall fun of everyone involved.

[adrenalinetooth]

I haven't seen you play XO or SO before, but that might have to do with the fact I only play on the weekends typically and you may play during the weekdays. I've seen you around, but not in a CiC role before. If I see you in CiC more often and you are competent I'll be happy to give you a +1, but for now I'm neutral. I'll try to look out for you this weekend!

[Heckenshutze]

Scenario #1: One of your subordinates rebels himself up, refusing to follow orders and make everyone's day a nightmare. He's drunk and refuses to do his job. You've decided to execute him for such behaviour, but, your firing squad refuses to shoot so you decide to shoot yourself, then, your firing squad (composed by MP's and the CMP) decides to arrest you for murder. How do you proceed?

Scenario #2: After some time in the operation, lack of leadership has crippled your marines. You've decided to deploy to lead them yourself, however, no XO was around to keep the CIC manned, regardless of that, battle was calling so you deployed. Being in the FOB you spot the CMP walking towards you with intentions of arrest you for neglect of duty. What'd you do?

Scenario #3: A report came to your desk, a rescued colonist somehow kidnapped Jones and has threaten you to kill it if you don't give him money and booze. Your MP's track down the crimer and storm his hideout, sadly, the moment the MP's came in the colonist murdered Jones. The MP's have brought him to your presence. Actions?

[JennerH]

Scenario #1: One of your subordinates rebels himself up, refusing to follow orders and make everyone's day a nightmare. He's drunk and refuses to do his job. You've decided to execute him for such behaviour, but, your firing squad refuses to shoot so you decide to shoot yourself, then, your firing squad (composed by MP's and the CMP) decides to arrest you for murder. How do you proceed?

Scenario #2: After some time in the operation, lack of leadership has crippled your marines. You've decided to deploy to lead them yourself, however, no XO was around to keep the CIC manned, regardless of that, battle was calling so you deployed. Being in the FOB you spot the CMP walking towards you with intentions of arrest you for neglect of duty. What'd you do?

Scenario #3: A report came to your desk, a rescued colonist somehow kidnapped Jones and has threaten you to kill it if you don't give him money and booze. Your MP's track down the crimer and storm his hideout, sadly, the moment the MP's came in the colonist murdered Jones. The MP's have brought him to your presence. Actions?

1. Allow the CMP to take me into custody and request an apeal to my sentence. If no such apeal is given, serve my sentence.

I wouldn't have executed him for those reasons, all he did was insub and being drunk on duty

2. Battle is calling and my men need me, however if the CMP can catch me in a quiet moment I'll explain my actions, and if he still sees fit to detain me I'll go willingly.

I wouldn't have deployed to the planet, no CiC staff

3. Sentence him to permanent confinement. Death is too quick a punishment for such a crime.

Order his immediate execution for committing terrorism and being a threat to the mission, and I think Jones counts as government property so maybe tack that on

Also to the first post, I played alot of CiC roles during December-January but haven't much in the last month until recently, where I've performed overwatch and RO roles as a synthetic

[Heckenshutze]

Alright, your first original answer were acceptable but your edited ones are the ones I wanted to read, very good.

+1

[Lukey111]

Haven't seen you in command much, but you show you know what you are doing. My other problem is that you could've added a lot more in your app. for these reasons, I'm going neutral.

[Ghostdex]

I’m neutral about this application, while I’ve seen you in game a good amount I haven’t quite been satisfied with what I saw. As above the answers were good, same with the app itself, it’s fine.

Neutral for now.

[Omicega]

A low-effort and disappointing app from a player who is probably capable of the role if they took it seriously enough. That's a pretty big if, though.

Neutral, leaning towards negative.

[ExGame]

I'm gonna have to agree, this app lacks any sign of effort or even thougt put behind it, it's bland as hell and gives me no information on you or your character. The answers to Heckenshutze's questions are just as bad. Additionally you're prone to break protocols and guidelines which required admin intervention in the near past, so I don't think you're fit for CO yet. While your character itself is nice to interact with and I haven't had problems with them in the past, it just doesn't add up for a +1 or neutral for me.

I'm going with a -1.

[JennerH]

I'm gonna have to agree, this app lacks any sign of effort or even thougt put behind it, it's bland as hell and gives me no information on you or your character. The answers to Heckenshutze's questions are just as bad. Additionally you're prone to break protocols and guidelines which required admin intervention in the near past, so I don't think you're fit for CO yet. While your character itself is nice to interact with and I haven't had problems with them in the past, it just doesn't add up for a +1 or neutral for me.

I'm going with a -1.

I combat synth'd once during a CLF event with a non lethal flashbang, and the second note on my synth was a combination of misinformation of where I was at, vague orders and not checking enough of who was in command. I was across the river for a total of a minute searching for the LT I was ordered to assist before grabbing a wounded marine and dragging him back to hydro.

Hecken's questions were trick questions and I was dumb enough to not realise that until after the fact, in which I made the appropriate edits which I think were perfectly acceptable.

You'd think that if I didn't take roles seriously as often as people say I'd have been jobbanned more than once

The CO application didn't give me very much to say about my character, just "why should you be whitelisted" and "what would you do here?" And if you'd like to know how I'd do in the CiC keep an eye on me this weekend, see first hand of I'm capable and then make your decision

[JennerH]

Do you understand how the Battlefield execution functions?

Yes, the Battlefield execution is a means to remove a threat from the operation when there is absolutely no other means to, and should be used sparingly. However, it has been used in the past by other COs to make an example of people, and given the right RP situations and proper admin approval I'm sure it could be used as such.

I think that's the only part of the app that should have had more detail on it. It's also very very difficult to write something on mobile, and the application with the links to previous apps and such took a good bit to get down, and on top of that there's always the risk on the forums of it signing you out and making you lose ALL your app progress, so you can see why I might have been a little less inclined to add flair and bright colors, different fonts and all that

[Omicega]

It's not my fault you wrote your app on mobile - not that it's something I think should be taken into account, anyway. Nobody forced you to write it there as opposed to on a desktop PC or laptop.

Your application is four sentences long, not counting yeses, standard answers like "what's your character name", and links to other forum threads. To me, that smacks of expecting your reputation to carry the whitelist application entirely on your behalf rather than expecting it to stand on its own two legs. Couple that with the fact that I haven't ever seen you as XO or SO (although we have very different timezones, so I frankly have no idea how much you actually play them), the recent synthetic-related notes which I don't think are quite as clear-cut as you say they are, and then maybe you have an idea why I'm so shaky about this one.

If CO apps were intended to be five-minute mobile jobs, we'd basically have them ask for "what's your name" and nothing else, so everyone could get their popularity contests up for voting as soon as feasibly possible. That's more or less what happens anyway, to be honest, but at least in the past people intending to apply for the whitelist have put more effort in than four sentences beyond what's entirely mandatory.

Hecken might be convinced by your (amended) responses to his questions, but I'm not.

-1 based off the weakness of the application, although I'll keep an eye out for you in CIC this weekend and see if your in-game roleplay ability and standards are higher than your form-filling ones.

[Sulaboy]

I gotta say that this app feels too soon. You just got synthetic approval like a week ago. While this shouldn't be that much of a problem and a commander app is mainly meant to rule out baldies, I still think you should have waited some time. More time would have helped this app too. I'm neutral with this.

[nerocavalier]

Originally, I was neutral on this because I know you ICly and despite that fact, this was incredibly low-effort. Then I remembered that you made a previous app and so I went back to skim over it.

Now I'm 100% against because you put in more effort for that app than you did for this one and because of the fact that you failed to even link it. Even if you double the amount of words in this application, you won't even reach the number you had in your previous one. If this is the amount of effort you think you need to get whitelisted, then I don't believe you should get it. Anything else is just another nail in the coffin.

-1

Edit:

The CO application didn't give me very much to say about my character, just "why should you be whitelisted" and "what would you do here?" And if you'd like to know how I'd do in the CiC keep an eye on me this weekend, see first hand of I'm capable and then make your decision

If you can't tell me about what you're going to do in the CIC, then what makes you think I'm going to spend my time watching you? As for the first part, it gave you ample room to talk about your character and what you will do. You just didn't feel like filling them out.

What do you think is the job of a Commander?
Yours:To lead the CiC and help develop a strategy that will lead the men of the Falling Falcons to victory.

My generic Carson-lite example: To be an example to the men and women of the Falling Falcons and to spend them wisely. They're the ones that'll bleed and die for every inch of ground and it's my job to make sure they don't go to waste. I won't actively send them to their deaths but I'm not going to let a few deaths get in the way of the mission. Wasting the lives of your men is unforgivable and having them die for nothing is simply proof that you shouldn't lead. They will not charge willingly to glory without leadership so I'll send down SOs to lead them to victory!

Generic caring commander: Marines are used to being treated as cannon fodder and that's not something that should happen. Instead, I'm going to set goals and let my SOs and SLs work it out for them. They'll always have the option of backing off if they feel they can't accomplish and micromanaging them is failure waiting to happen. They have a better overall picture of the situation groundside than I do, anyway. At times, I'll even send down SOs to help coordinate the marines and provide intel updates so I can adjust my goals as needed.

Why should you be whitelisted?
Yours: I believe I'm capable of playing a role as important as CO and I'd like to be able to lead the Almayer properly. I think I could add unique strategies to the round and increase the overall fun of everyone involved.

Average commander trying to be unique response: I have XO'd a lot in the past and I like to think that I've learned from both my Commander and my time guiding the operation alone. For starters, I won't actively use BEs unless necessary and that I'll try out new and innovative strategies. LZ2 is criminally underused and will often be a focal point for my marines so that they can get some variety to their operations. We'll also try new FOBs like fitness, or medical beyond the same old hydro-nexus or LZ1 at big red.

I might even have everyone deploy on Normandy on Ice!

[JennerH]

~snip~

I didn't link it because I forgot I made it, that simple. I made that months ago and it got instantly auto denied because CO applications were suspended

I admit I rushed it out there, and spent way less time on it than I should have. If it gets denied I'll spend more time on it next time

[Sleepy Retard]

ya i was gonna write a lengthy review on why this is not very good but everyone else did

while you might've gotten your synth application through, that doesn't mean you can stop caring and put a low effort co app out

try again later, you're generally an ok rper and this was just not up to par

[WinterClould]

Same with the others. I took one look at the length of the app and I got worried this might have been rushed. I know you can do better so I hope in your next app you do a good full job. Then you'll have my plus.

[Arbs]

From what I’ve personally seen you are a good RPer that can offer decent interactions. Perhaps it’s not the best written CO app, but I do remember a lesser app that got passed as well.

As far as the role goes I have been confident in your ability to follow on the tasks that I’ve assigned to you or that you’ve been assigned. A decent SO, though I’d like to see you as an XO more often, taking things in hand more often to try working out your own strategies, tactics and management.

I do believe that these apps are more about what you can offer to the role and if you can be trusted with it rather than how they’re written. Maybe thats just me.

Anyways for what it’s worth it’s a +1 from me. Good luck.

[Avalanchee]

This is a bit complicated, you are definetly capable to play as a Commander and you are indeed a good roleplayer.
You could have made this application a bit better tho.

I am staying neutral to positive for now.

[Lumdor]

Know who your character is in-game, and have had quite a few interactions with you.

Though I've never really seen you play as SO+.

Kind of wanna see you play as XO where you lead the operation a few times before I can give my full honest opinion on your application.

Most people believe CO is some hardcore role but really it is just an XO with the power to execute people they deem a threat to the operation.

Once I've seen you lead a few operations I'll gladly throw a big'ol +1.

[edda]

Hmm. I know you're a good player and a good synth. This app, though... And also I rarely see you in Command roles.

Since you're staff, I'm still comfortable shooting you a +1, but if you put a bit more effort into the app, most of these posts would be +1s right now.

[Bancrose]

I've seen her as SO, While I'd like to see you log some time in as an XO

I'll +1 because that SO round you showed some decent leadership skills and some strategic thought in your mind.

[Omicega]

Initial assessment was too harsh. Quality/quantity of app isn't anything I'd consider a relevant factor anymore.

+1

[Lumdor]

I'm gonna change mine to +1.

They're a competent player and believe they'll be more than able as a CDR.

Good luck!

[Sleepy Retard]

Garbage application, no effort put into it. Like I said before.

But, doesn't matter known in game and does rp sometimes. +1