Viperious DeLamoure Commander Application.

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Viperious DeLamoure Commander Application.

Post by Viperious » 03 Aug 2018, 01:06

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Viperious DeLamoure

Make a list of links to all of your applications and (job)ban appeals, including whitelist and staff apps, within the last year. Also, provide "Ban reason; Verdict" beside each (job)ban link:
Nope, I'm a good noodle.

Do you understand that any player - even donors or staff members - can have their whitelist status revoked should they break our Server Rules or Roleplay Guidelines?
Yup, as it should be, no one is above the law, except for maybe Sylvester Stallone

Do you understand how the Battlefield Execution functions?
I believe so, I often find myself looking back over the BE rule whenever I see one to double check that it has been acted lawfully. As far as I can tell, BE is only to be performed when one is endangering the operation or plans to endanger the operation, for instance, mutiny. I am also aware that as MPs are rule-bound to enact the Marine Law and cannot mutiny, they are exempt from BE as them breaking the Marine Law is an admin issue and should be handled with a message to High Command or an aHelp.

Though I will still use it in dire cases where due process is not available and that marine in question has proved that they are incapable of working with the crew.

Do you understand you are not above Marine law or allowed to enforce it yourself?
I understand that the marine law is to be enforced by the MPs as my duty as Commander would be to lead the men. Only in cases where it involves me directly and requires a BE would I enact the law. Also, like an MP I am obligated to follow the law, and if I slip up, the MPs will sort me out.

What do you think is the job of a Commander?
Technically the commander is meant to be the face of the crew. The person that plans the operation, works closely with their command staff and tries their best to make the right call, as well as give their best response to every situation that presents itself.

The Commander is also expected to treat every situation as a new opportunity for RP, that they and those involved can enjoy to the highest extent, which I believe my time as CL and XO have prepared me for.

Without a Commander, the crew can't function correctly. In terms of a computer, the Commander would be the CPU, processing all of the information given by his command staff, and responding accordingly.

Lastly, the Commander validates the other players. He acts the part of that person in charge and people will always treat the Commander with the power they think they have.

If a member of your staff is disobeying orders, how would you handle it?
In almost all cases, the situation would allow for the MPs to be called to scene to arrest the offending staff member, as they too are not above the law. Ideally, I'll give them a chance to fix their ways, as a commander will have a harder time leading for every member of their staff that is missing, but if they continue and provide little benefit compared to their disobeying nature, I'll leave their arrest to the CMP and return to commanding.

Why should you be whitelisted?
I feel I have been around long enough to be somewhat familiar to most players. Personally, I have spent the last 4 weeks playing on the server every day outside of work and sleep, so my commitment to the server shouldn't be in question. I believe through my previous experience on other games and my current experiences with SL, CL, SO, PO and XO have built me up to a place where I can claim the title of Commander and will allow me to provide at least high levels of RP for those around me.

I believe the last thing I can be called is bald, and while I know that one's "baldness" has little relevance to being a Commander, I think it should be considered for the fact that it means I know what I'm doing and I know what others can do, which means I can utilize them.

As far as I know, I don't meta, and I won't give preferential treatment on one player over the other becuase we're friends or interact with eachother most rounds, so you don't have to worry about me abusing my power for a select few.

For as long as I can remember, I have had a fascination with military combat, procedure and strategy, and I always love it when I get to use this knowledge in actual situations. While at the start of my Commander career, I may lose operations, I am certain that as I gain more and more experience, I can be a Commander that can lead the marines to victory on regular occassion.

In the end, the decission isn't down to me, and If anyone would like to provide critique on my application, I am open and I will reapply next month.

Thank you for reading.

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Re: Viperious DeLamoure Commander Application.

Post by Eliteempire » 03 Aug 2018, 20:19

Now I don't tend to vote on these because I don't actually see half the people but this fucking madman, I've seen. I have seen him a hell of a lot and when I do it ends up really well or we all die to with some really good RP over the Com's.

+1 would follow this madman into the lower level of Ice on nearly any mission.

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Re: Viperious DeLamoure Commander Application.

Post by Slduggy » 03 Aug 2018, 20:51

I've seen the way you XO. I don't like your style, which isn't a reason to minus one an APP, but I find you get really frustrated when things don't go to plan and start taking it out on marines.

I think you need more time with XO.

So for now, -1
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Re: Viperious DeLamoure Commander Application.

Post by Sulaboy » 03 Aug 2018, 21:09

I believe so, I often find myself looking back over the BE rule whenever I see one to double check that it has been acted lawfully. As far as I can tell, BE is only to be performed when one is endangering the operation or plans to endanger the operation, for instance, mutiny. I am also aware that as MPs are rule-bound to enact the Marine Law and cannot mutiny, they are exempt from BE as them breaking the Marine Law is an admin issue and should be handled with a message to High Command or an aHelp.

Though I will still use it in dire cases where due process is not available and that marine in question has proved that they are incapable of working with the crew.
This is outdated. The commander can BE MPs, but not the CMP. Also only the CMP is rule bound to marine law, MPs are not bound to the law, but are supposed to face IC punishment for breaking it. The fact that I have to point this out wouldn't usually bother me but you stated that you often look over the rule, and it hasn't been changed since Rahl left.

While at the start of my Commander career, I may lose operations, I am certain that as I gain more and more experience, I can be a Commander that can lead the marines to victory on regular occassion.
I also just plainly dislike this statement as a reason to be whitelisted.

This application gives me a very bad feeling about how you would play commander. I can't find the words to explain what's wrong with it, but from this application I wouldn't trust you to play as the commander properly. -1
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Re: Viperious DeLamoure Commander Application.

Post by Viperious » 04 Aug 2018, 04:40

Eliteempire wrote:
03 Aug 2018, 20:19
Now I don't tend to vote on these because I don't actually see half the people but this fucking madman, I've seen. I have seen him a hell of a lot and when I do it ends up really well or we all die to with some really good RP over the Com's.

+1 would follow this madman into the lower level of Ice on nearly any mission.
I'm so glad someone gets it! Do or die brother!

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Re: Viperious DeLamoure Commander Application.

Post by Viperious » 04 Aug 2018, 04:43

Slduggy wrote:
03 Aug 2018, 20:51
I've seen the way you XO. I don't like your style, which isn't a reason to minus one an APP, but I find you get really frustrated when things don't go to plan and start taking it out on marines.

I think you need more time with XO.

So for now, -1
I will not deny that I get frustrated when things don't go to plan, especially when it's due to unga marines not completing an assigned task that is vital to the success of all the other squads. However, I think that element of how I play is important to both me as a player and me as a commander, because we're all human, and it would be boring if EVERY commander was always calm and collected and never shown any emotion. I mean, there are some Commander's out there who would BE you just for trying to steal their boots during the briefing.

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Re: Viperious DeLamoure Commander Application.

Post by Viperious » 04 Aug 2018, 04:50

Sulaboy wrote:
03 Aug 2018, 21:09
This is outdated. The commander can BE MPs, but not the CMP. Also only the CMP is rule bound to marine law, MPs are not bound to the law, but are supposed to face IC punishment for breaking it. The fact that I have to point this out wouldn't usually bother me but you stated that you often look over the rule, and it hasn't been changed since Rahl left.



I also just plainly dislike this statement as a reason to be whitelisted.

This application gives me a very bad feeling about how you would play commander. I can't find the words to explain what's wrong with it, but from this application, I wouldn't trust you to play as the commander properly. -1
It seems I should have re-read the rule while writing the application, but due to my confidence and the answers given in other accepted applications, I believed that BE was not available to MPs in general. Then again, I still don't think BEing an MP would be wise as them breaking marine law would be an IC issue that should be handled by the CMP. Unless my life is directly threatened, or the CMP is not fulfilling their obligation to correctly punish an MP, I see no reason to personally BE one.

Onto your second point, I think the thing that you dislike is the fact that I make it sound like I'm green in commanding and intend to learn the job as I go. However, I feel these is down to my own inability to properly explain what I meant. I have no doubt that I will be able to lead the crew effectively as a commander. However, the Commander job has atleast a few more obligations than the XO job or being aCO. So when I say I intend to get better over time, I mean in terms of things only the CO can do, and not leading general.

Thankyou for responding to my application.

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Re: Viperious DeLamoure Commander Application.

Post by Sulaboy » 04 Aug 2018, 05:21

Viperious wrote:
04 Aug 2018, 04:50
Onto your second point, I think the thing that you dislike is the fact that I make it sound like I'm green in commanding and intend to learn the job as I go. However, I feel these is down to my own inability to properly explain what I meant. I have no doubt that I will be able to lead the crew effectively as a commander. However, the Commander job has atleast a few more obligations than the XO job or being aCO. So when I say I intend to get better over time, I mean in terms of things only the CO can do, and not leading general.

Thankyou for responding to my application.
My second point wasn't about you being inexperienced, from what it sounds like you've gotten plenty from your time as XO. My problem with that statement was that winning seemed to be your goal. If your reason for being commander is to make the marines win, I feel there is a disconnect with your perception of the role, and mine. It gives me the notion that you care more about "winning" the game instead of playing it. That was my problem with it.
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Re: Viperious DeLamoure Commander Application.

Post by Viperious » 04 Aug 2018, 05:27

Sulaboy wrote:
04 Aug 2018, 05:21
My second point wasn't about you being inexperienced, from what it sounds like you've gotten plenty from your time as XO. My problem with that statement was that winning seemed to be your goal. If your reason for being commander is to make the marines win, I feel there is a disconnect with your perception of the role, and mine. It gives me the notion that you care more about "winning" the game instead of playing it. That was my problem with it.
Quite the opposite really. I was trying to make the point that "winning" wouldn't be my main goal as CO and would simply become something I could achieve later down the line. Otherwise, I would have said, "I'm always trying to win and I'm going to keep trying until I do". Honestly, if you've seen me around, you might have noticed I like to join late when the Marines are losing to scoop up those late-game defenses, but even then that's as a PFC and not a command role.

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Re: Viperious DeLamoure Commander Application.

Post by superjo98 » 04 Aug 2018, 18:19

I haven't played with a long time so you can take my experiences with you with a grain of salt, but I will also comment on some of your answers. I dislike your answer to how you would react to if a staff member was disobeying orders. Frankly I think calling the MP's before asking them why they were disobeying is just not something I think someone would do. From my experiences with you in the past you always mouthed off command when something went wrong saying that your plan would have worked. This doesn't make me feel too confident that you would be very fun to work under as CIC staff but I don't know if you've changed since I last played with you. I understand you addressed sulaboy's statement about you being a commander that wants to win but overall I still have to go with a -1
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Re: Viperious DeLamoure Commander Application.

Post by Viperious » 04 Aug 2018, 19:58

superjo98 wrote:
04 Aug 2018, 18:19
I haven't played with a long time so you can take my experiences with you with a grain of salt, but I will also comment on some of your answers. I dislike your answer to how you would react to if a staff member was disobeying orders. Frankly I think calling the MP's before asking them why they were disobeying is just not something I think someone would do. From my experiences with you in the past you always mouthed off command when something went wrong saying that your plan would have worked. This doesn't make me feel too confident that you would be very fun to work under as CIC staff but I don't know if you've changed since I last played with you. I understand you addressed sulaboy's statement about you being a commander that wants to win but overall I still have to go with a -1
Honestly, I don't know how you got that from my Question. I stated that I would bring an MP after giving the SO a chance, which I would assume generally includes asking them why they are causing problems to the OP. Calling an MP to detain the SO is the preferred option as opposed to just BEing them like other commanders since they technically fit the description of being a danger to the OP.

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Re: Viperious DeLamoure Commander Application.

Post by superjo98 » 04 Aug 2018, 20:05

Viperious wrote:
04 Aug 2018, 19:58
Honestly, I don't know how you got that from my Question. I stated that I would bring an MP after giving the SO a chance, which I would assume generally includes asking them why they are causing problems to the OP. Calling an MP to detain the SO is the preferred option as opposed to just BEing them like other commanders since they technically fit the description of being a danger to the OP.
Crap I misread it, sorry. I'm switching over to neutral.
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Re: Viperious DeLamoure Commander Application.

Post by Viperious » 04 Aug 2018, 20:23

superjo98 wrote:
04 Aug 2018, 20:05
Crap I misread it, sorry. I'm switching over to neutral.
It's appreciated. Thankyou for replying to my application.

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Re: Viperious DeLamoure Commander Application.

Post by ThesoldierLLJK » 04 Aug 2018, 20:46

I’m sticking to neutral as I want to continue watching. But my only concerns are you appear to be the type who wants to throw his toys out of the pram when things don’t go your way.

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Re: Viperious DeLamoure Commander Application.

Post by Viperious » 04 Aug 2018, 20:49

ThesoldierLLJK wrote:
04 Aug 2018, 20:46
I’m sticking to neutral as I want to continue watching. But my only concerns are you appear to be the type who wants to throw his toys out of the pram when things don’t go your way.
I can neither deny nor confirm.

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Re: Viperious DeLamoure Commander Application.

Post by adrenalinetooth » 05 Aug 2018, 12:48

Doesn't seem to understand the military chain of command, and constantly goes against command's orders whenever I play with him, calling command dumb or retarded.
Furthermore, Viperious got into a very immature argument with Freemysoul on discord voicechat earlier this morning regarding adminhelps. Would hate to see someone with his attitude as a CO.

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Re: Viperious DeLamoure Commander Application.

Post by VortexGaming » 05 Aug 2018, 14:33

Alright other people have said most of what I wanted to say, So ima -1
I heard stories of you losing a bc shotgun and proceeded to hunt down everyone with a shotgun and check the attachments on them.

Honestly, I think I would want to see you go a month or two without any stupid commotions and immaturity as other people have said and I'll reconsider my vote and your next commander app.
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Re: Viperious DeLamoure Commander Application.

Post by KingPhilipIII » 05 Aug 2018, 15:09

While I don't have specific issues with your ability to understand and play competently, I'm going to have to agree with what's been said with regard to your attitude and your mentality. Your approach to the game as something to be won rather than played makes me hesitant to condone you controlling the marine force.

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Re: Viperious DeLamoure Commander Application.

Post by ThesoldierLLJK » 05 Aug 2018, 15:18

I've seen you throw your toys out of the pram too much if it's dealing with other players, staff, or almost everything.
At this moment I do not believe you have what it takes to command
Good luck in the future
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Re: Viperious DeLamoure Commander Application.

Post by Brotemis » 05 Aug 2018, 16:30

KingPhilipIII wrote:
05 Aug 2018, 15:09
While I don't have specific issues with your ability to understand and play competently, I'm going to have to agree with what's been said with regard to your attitude and your mentality. Your approach to the game as something to be won rather than played makes me hesitant to condone you controlling the marine force.

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Re: Viperious DeLamoure Commander Application.

Post by Viperious » 05 Aug 2018, 22:19

oof, I had thought there was a chance things could turn around, but it's clear that my application has unfortunately failed.

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Re: Viperious DeLamoure Commander Application.

Post by Viperious » 05 Aug 2018, 22:24

VortexGaming wrote:
05 Aug 2018, 14:33
Alright other people have said most of what I wanted to say, So ima -1
I heard stories of you losing a bc shotgun and proceeded to hunt down everyone with a shotgun and check the attachments on them.

Honestly, I think I would want to see you go a month or two without any stupid commotions and immaturity as other people have said and I'll reconsider my vote and your next commander app.
I was a B18 spec running a rifle/buckshot kit and managed to get the last BC for my shotty. After getting set on fire by a teammate, I was forced to the ground to get rid of the fire and had my armour removed to not cook alive (or I died and was getting revived, can't remember clearly). While a medic was tending to me, a marine took my shotgun onto the DS, and since I didn't catch his name, I checked everyone's shotgun. I didn't find it in the end, but was incredibly frustrated.

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Re: Viperious DeLamoure Commander Application.

Post by ThesoldierLLJK » 05 Aug 2018, 22:44

Viperious wrote:
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oof, I had thought there was a chance things could turn around, but it's clear that my application has unfortunately failed.
I’m not going to be a jerk, and I say this so you have a chance to improve if it’s denied and you get another chance in the future. Or if it’s approved and you do get whitelisted.

Everything that can go wrong for you as a CO will. You will have an entire crew trying to play the game their way and sometimes they want to get away with soft antagonist roles. You will go rounds where the MTs will screw with you, the CMP/MP will go full shitler mode and arrest any and all your marines for the slightest infraction. Your crew will also unintentionally do things that will you make you angry.

How I’ve seen you react to certain situations this week are why I gave you a negative one.

However here is how you can improve.

1. Quit getting mad at videogames
-You will lose your precious guns, you will have marines defy your orders, and you will have everything that can go wrong just because. You need to learn to keep your cool.

2. Have a better relationship with the staff
-Being the commander you will have situations more than a normal marine where you will need to use ahelp or the fax machine to notify high command. I gave you a message from a senior admin the other day and you were pretty angry that it wasn’t the answer you wanted to hear. I understand you may get frustrated, but we remember players like that and don’t forget

3. Change your reputation
-If denied go the entire time and use it to rehabilitate your image. I can tell you right now if you were to go a complete 180 from where you are now, you would have a +1 from me.

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Re: Viperious DeLamoure Commander Application.

Post by Sargeantmuffinman » 07 Aug 2018, 06:53

From hearing all of the feedback, sadly I'll be giving you a minus one on the application.

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Re: Viperious DeLamoure Commander Application.

Post by ChengChan » 16 Aug 2018, 11:30

Been joining a marine and you are the XO, in my opinion you are not ready yet to become a commander because there is no leadership within you but you are a good combat marine. Maybe soon maybe you need to be more active in staff role for now and I'll observe you always or us players. -1
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