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Feed the Drones!

Post by Butterrobber202 » 22 Dec 2016, 13:00

Summary (a quick, 2-3 sentence summary): After some chatting in MChat with Slc and others, I thought 'Man, when cloning gets removed, there is going to be alot of bodies lagging the server up.'. This is my Lore Friendly Fix to that. So my Suggestion is to allow the Drone Caste (excluding the Queen and Carrier, sorry Queens ) to be able to break down Human Corpses and use it to boost their plasma storage.

Benefits (How this will benefit the server and game as a whole):
-Less Marine Bodies Everywhere after Cloning is removed
-Neat, Lore-Friendly Solution
-Small Buff to Drones

Details (Description of how you think this would work, the benefits, etc): So how this would work, is that Drones would get a new Verb called 'Consume Corpse' or something like that, and what this does, it will break down any Corpse the Drone is currently GRABBING, which will take about 20 seconds, and give them a 150 boost to their plasma.

( NOTICE: It will not boost the MAX Plasma they can store only the CURRENT AMOUNT, meaning they can go PAST the Cap but they will not RAISE it. Meaning something like , 650/500 , would be possible)

Now, this has a cooldown, you can only eat 2 Corpses per 20 minutes.

Implementation (Optional, if you have an idea how to implement it): Code n' Stuff.

QUICK NOTICE: I'm only saying this should be added /after/ cloning is removed.
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Re: Feed the Drones!

Post by Boltersam » 22 Dec 2016, 13:04

Another lore-friendly solution would be having weeds slowly break down the bodies for nutrients. Because that's what they do.

+1, anyways, at least after cloning is removed.

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Post by Sarah_U. » 22 Dec 2016, 13:04

-1
It won't lag the server.
Eating bodies for that purpose is not entirely lore-friendly, check your facts and bring proof please.
Xenos generally let the bodies rot on their weeds as the weeds drain the strenght and organic matter of the creatures, I have made a suggestion soemwhere for that.
Drones don't need a buff, they're support and OP at ancient.
I already see a ton of players being rude as hell deleting bodies all-over the map even though they're full. (Drop weed, eat, drop weed, eat).
CM was obviously inspired by Starcraft: Ghost opening. At least when marines takes too long to deploy.
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Post by TopHatPenguin » 22 Dec 2016, 13:06

Personally I'd prefer if the bodies stayed where they fell as imo it adds to the atmosphere of the area.

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Re: Feed the Drones!

Post by Butterrobber202 » 22 Dec 2016, 13:21

TopHatPenguin wrote:Personally I'd prefer if the bodies stayed where they fell as imo it adds to the atmosphere of the area.
Yeah, but think about this, Huge battle at the Bridge, lots of Marines die, corpses left behind as the marines pull back to the Nexus.

30-ish minutes later when the marines are back to fighting power, they rush back to the bridge to find... all the Corpses are gone.

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Post by Snypehunter007 » 22 Dec 2016, 13:31

Devouring was removed for a reason . . .
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Post by Butterrobber202 » 22 Dec 2016, 13:43

Snypehunter007 wrote:Devouring was removed for a reason . . .
That reason being Cloning.

Cloning is getting Removed.
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Post by Sarah_U. » 22 Dec 2016, 13:45

No, devouring was removed because it was pretty annoying and everyone -1'd it's existence.
CM was obviously inspired by Starcraft: Ghost opening. At least when marines takes too long to deploy.
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Post by Butterrobber202 » 22 Dec 2016, 14:11

Sarah_U. wrote:No, devouring was removed because it was pretty annoying and everyone -1'd it's existence.
And to be fair, this isnt devouring. This is similar to devouring but it's not.
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Post by InterroLouis » 22 Dec 2016, 14:20

It has the same effect as devouring, though, does it not?

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Post by Casany » 22 Dec 2016, 14:27

Ima -1ing this as it is basically adding back devouring for drones. Yeah, clonnings going soon but it's still here. It adds atmosphere for all the bodies to remain, and I just think this is a huge alien buff, specifically for drones
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Post by Butterrobber202 » 22 Dec 2016, 14:49

Casany wrote:Ima -1ing this as it is basically adding back devouring for drones. Yeah, clonnings going soon but it's still here. It adds atmosphere for all the bodies to remain, and I just think this is a huge alien buff, specifically for drones
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Post by Snypehunter007 » 23 Dec 2016, 01:49

Yeah going to have to -1 as well.
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Post by Artouris » 23 Dec 2016, 10:00

To be honest I would probably -1 this even after cloning is removed. I don't want to say all xenos players do things to be asshole to the other team, but you see it quite often. Even if cloning gets removed what'd you would see is drones instantly eating dead bodies on the front lines so they can't get defibed or whatever marines get after that update. Hell i've had xenos injure me to the point of near death and then devour me to transport me and then never spit me out because the stomach acid killed me. So I mean I would try not to impliment systems that can be heavily gamed by one or the other side like this.
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Post by solidfury7 » 23 Dec 2016, 11:19

- 1

I could see this being abused pretty heavily. Aliens could simply devour all the most valuable crew to prevent cloning.

Plus, there is nothing better(RP wise) than finding the marines you served with earlier completely wiped out, in the same spots as earlier
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Post by Sarah_U. » 23 Dec 2016, 12:05

Like most people said, and also because #1: recovery recovers your plasma faster if given by another xeno (Teamwork oi') and #2: Because the work of carrying dead bodies and/or reviving them enmass is already a BIIIIG work. Players would be salty as hell toward drones and generally, xenos are allowed to hide bodies already.
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Post by Jroinc1 » 23 Dec 2016, 17:21

solidfury7 wrote:- 1

I could see this being abused pretty heavily. Aliens could simply devour all the most valuable crew to prevent cloning.

Plus, there is nothing better(RP wise) than finding the marines you served with earlier completely wiped out, in the same spots as earlier
He said once cloning's removed.
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Post by Artouris » 23 Dec 2016, 21:33

Jroinc1 wrote:He said once cloning's removed.
Would prevent defibs. It'd be the equal of combat nesting but worse since that still prevents your revival. It'd be used as a tactic for xenos to be complete assholes. And you see xeno's go out of their way sometimes to do such things. All this would do is generatelling more salt.
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Post by Jroinc1 » 24 Dec 2016, 00:57

Artouris wrote:Would prevent defibs. It'd be the equal of combat nesting but worse since that still prevents your revival. It'd be used as a tactic for xenos to be complete assholes. And you see xeno's go out of their way sometimes to do such things. All this would do is generatelling more salt.
Well... if you've lost him for long enough that the ayys had time to reach, then devour him (while standing still), he's prob not revivable.
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Post by Artouris » 24 Dec 2016, 02:53

Jroinc1 wrote:Well... if you've lost him for long enough that the ayys had time to reach, then devour him (while standing still), he's prob not revivable.
Well the medical rework isn't going to make it so you need to be defibed in 5 minutes, its probably going to be a bit longer before you're permadead. But even then five minutes is long, more than enough marines to push back up forward to where xenos were holding out, or even for xenos to drag marine bodies in and devour them. You'd be surprised that many times how quickly it can change. But getting them devoured like this is really easy to do, especially in combat if you have sniper spitters and crushers just keeping alot of marines down. There are multiple ways to game your way into devouring dead marines on the front lines before they can be rescued even with a counterattack that's inbound in like 2 minutes and would push the xenos back far enough to regain your bodies.

Also to futhermore counter the original post, we already know weeds are what technically deal with corpses. Drones don't need a buff considering they aren't combat roles and they already get pretty good plasma regen, we're not here for hivelord regen but they do get buffs to regen when working in a team. However the whole "we gotta stop the lag with bodies" is totally wrong. The server if anything lags more with cloning than without it since there's always MORE bodies if cloning is at work, so removing cloning already solves that issue. Not to mention deleting a marine by devouring them actually GENERATES lag. The fix for devouring dead bodies( earlier in alpha) was to literally teleport the body out into the middle of space in centcomm, which clearly shows this doesn't fix what is supposedly broken or needs improvement upon.

This suggestion legitimately would add not much of anything, but like i said stuff to generate salt for marine players. I understand that this was originally intended to help with the serverside lag, but it's not going to fix it since it actually runs in the face what it originally attempts to do (as in it would generate lag).

So once again I'm going to -1 this for the reasons of: Drones don't need buffs, plasma regen is good enough for drones (especially with added bonuses from recovery), it wouldn't reduce lag or would increase it, gameplay trumps lore (even though in this case its flimsy on the lore), and because this would be only used to generate shittons of salt.
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Post by apophis775 » 28 Dec 2016, 15:07

We did this pre-alpha it ended... poorly if any of you remember.

It was basically impossible to recover marines for healing/cloning.
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Post by forwardslashN » 27 Jan 2017, 13:01

Would be interesting to see humans get absorbed into resin.
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