Dead Body? Larva Weakens!

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Dead Body? Larva Weakens!

Post by Nightwolf901 » 19 Jun 2017, 08:42

Summary (a quick, 2-3 sentence summary): So since larva can burst outta dead bodies.. Why not make them weaker due to the body dying. You know the Body stops pumping blood after death. They would lose HP making them a easier target.

Benefits (How this will benefit the server and game as a whole): If a Marine dies in the mid transfer of being BROUGHT ACROSS THE MAP FOR NO REASON while having a baby in them. They get punished for killing them.

Details (Description of how you think this would work, the benefits, etc): Dead body = either through killing ones self or the xeno killing the host.

Implementation (Optional, if you have an idea how to implement it): *tapes paper to face* C 0 d 3 r 5
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Re: Dead Body? Larva Weakens!

Post by solidfury7 » 19 Jun 2017, 08:50

A neat idea, however I'm unsure on how it could be implemented coding wise, simply anyway.
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Re: Dead Body? Larva Weakens!

Post by Crab_Spider » 19 Jun 2017, 09:18

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What was the point of this?
What were you trying to get here?
You just said "weakens" as though that gives us an idea of what we're supposed to be against or in support of, it doesn't though. "Weaken" as in, the chestburster loses health and is easier to kill?
It has to spend more time progressing?
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Re: Dead Body? Larva Weakens!

Post by caleeb101 » 19 Jun 2017, 09:20

Gonna have to agree with Crab_Spider. You mean a minor health debuff? Speed debuff? What is it?
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Re: Dead Body? Larva Weakens!

Post by Nightwolf901 » 19 Jun 2017, 09:20

Crab_Spider wrote:...
What was the point of this?
What were you trying to get here?
You just said "weakens" as though that gives us an idea of what we're supposed to be against or in support of, it doesn't though. "Weaken"
caleeb101 wrote:Gonna have to agree with Crab_Spider. You mean a minor health debuff? Speed debuff? What is it?
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Re: Dead Body? Larva Weakens!

Post by Crab_Spider » 19 Jun 2017, 09:26

Nightwolf901 wrote:Fixed in Editing
Then no. That is way too fucking punishing. "Marines have it worse, they're killed easily" well here's the hint, humans have armor and it's just as easy to kill the lesser castes, chestburster don't need much effort to take care of and what about players spawned on the Alymayer? This is as shitty as Marines camping a tunnel and waiting for xenos to pop out, either chestbursters get a health regeneration or there must be specifications to what makes them lose health when the host dies.
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Re: Dead Body? Larva Weakens!

Post by Nightwolf901 » 19 Jun 2017, 09:28

Crab_Spider wrote:Then no. That is way too fucking punishing. "Marines have it worse, they're killed easily" well here's the hint, humans have armor and it's just as easy to kill the lesser castes, chestburster don't need much effort to take care of and what about players spawned on the Alymayer? This is as shitty as Marines camping a tunnel and waiting for xenos to pop out, either chestbursters get a health regeneration or there must be specifications to what makes them lose health when the host dies.
> Easier to kill lesser castes. < Bite my Ass Spider, A YOUNGER RUNNER CAN FUCKING SURVIVE A BUCKSHOT ROUND AND WALK OFF FREELY. AND IT SURELY AS HELL TAKES MORE THAN 15 PULSE RIFLE ROUNDS. Yes marines have 'ARMOR' thats comparable to fucking tissue paper. Xenos don't target the chest, They target the Feet/hands/ or head. They NEVER target chest.
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Re: Dead Body? Larva Weakens!

Post by Crab_Spider » 19 Jun 2017, 09:36

Nightwolf901 wrote:> Easier to kill lesser castes. < Bite my Ass Spider, A YOUNGER RUNNER CAN FUCKING SURVIVE A BUCKSHOT ROUND AND WALK OFF FREELY. AND IT SURELY AS HELL TAKES MORE THAN 15 PULSE RIFLE ROUNDS. Yes marines have 'ARMOR' thats comparable to fucking tissue paper. Xenos don't target the chest, They target the Feet/hands/ or head. They NEVER target chest.
*facepalm* I think you're new here. No, they don't "eat" buckshot, when they take it, they run off because, newsflash, that just put them into semi-critical. And let me clear something up: aiming at limbs is RNG altogether, so wherever you are hit is no longer dependent on where the player was aiming for, so that's a moot point.

Easier to kill = less damage needed = successful hits.
Have you ever shot a runner to death with a pulse rifle? It's LESS THAN 15 BULLETS, unless of course, they were under the influence of warding and recovery.
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Re: Dead Body? Larva Weakens!

Post by Nightwolf901 » 19 Jun 2017, 09:38

Crab_Spider wrote:*facepalm* I think you're new here. No, they don't "eat" buckshot, when they take it, they run off because, newsflash, that just put them into semi-critical. And let me clear something up: aiming at limbs is RNG altogether, so wherever you are hit is no longer dependent on where the player was aiming for, so that's a moot point.

Easier to kill = less damage needed = successful hits.
Have you ever shot a runner to death with a pulse rifle? It's LESS THAN 15 BULLETS, unless of course, they were under the influence of warding and recovery.
Crab I've been playing since nearly the starting of Sulaco my dude. I'm not fucking new. Yes they can run away after being in SEMI CRIT, but they can COME BACK 30 SECONDS LATER. And we all know that warding shit is busted for xenos. Look again at my Account creation and tell me 'You must be new' You've been on my ass for the past year and you've been a twat multiple times.
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Re: Dead Body? Larva Weakens!

Post by Crab_Spider » 19 Jun 2017, 09:43

Nightwolf901 wrote:Crab I've been playing since nearly the starting of Sulaco my dude. I'm not fucking new. Yes they can run away after being in SEMI CRIT, but they can COME BACK 30 SECONDS LATER. And we all know that warding shit is busted for xenos. Look again at my Account creation and tell me 'You must be new' You've been on my ass for the past year and you've been a twat multiple times.
Just to put an end to this:

1) I'm aware of all of this
2) That was sarcasm, if not, a joke.
3) I barely talk to you and I barely interact with you.
4) That's a commonly used phrase in place of "I think you're confused".
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Re: Dead Body? Larva Weakens!

Post by Bronimin » 19 Jun 2017, 10:58

Sounds a bit janky, I'd be cool with making monkey-spawn weaker though. Smaller, easier to kill even as they evolve. Stunted, the opposite of what happenw when you infect a predator.

Encourage ayys to infect marines and survivors more often, burn through the initial larva pool faster too.

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Re: Dead Body? Larva Weakens!

Post by MrJJJ » 19 Jun 2017, 21:53

Crab_Spider wrote:4) That's a commonly used phrase in place of "I think you're confused".
No it isin't.

Crab_Spider wrote: And let me clear something up: aiming at limbs is RNG altogether, so wherever you are hit is no longer dependent on where the player was aiming for, so that's a moot point.
Its not 100% RNG, if i am at head, most of my shots will probably hit head, but will still sometimes miss, it basicallymakes it have better chance to hit, how do you think xenos slash off hands and feet still so much?
Nightwolf901 wrote: And we all know that warding shit is busted for xenos.
I don't know what this means, but warding currently is super powerful when a xeno reaches mature as a prae or queen, either can survive 6 nades and not go into crit but just be near death after that encounter, even with some bullet assistance.

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Re: Dead Body? Larva Weakens!

Post by tuzz » 20 Jun 2017, 07:35

-1, this would keep larvas that burst on the Almayer from evolving unti the queen boards. I think single xenos on the ship bring too much fun for both teams for this to be removed.

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Post by caleeb101 » 20 Jun 2017, 10:57

tuzz wrote:-1, this would keep larvas that burst on the Almayer from evolving unti the queen boards. I think single xenos on the ship bring too much fun for both teams for this to be removed.
yes, yes killing all the unfortunate unarmed personnel on the almayer because if you run into a marine you'll die. and running from everyone on the ship and hiding in the most scummy places? so much fun.
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Re: Dead Body? Larva Weakens!

Post by nerocavalier » 20 Jun 2017, 18:40

-1. If it's shipside, the larva gets screwed over for factors they can't control. Planetside, it's also relatively pointless. "Easier target" doesn't mean anything since in your scenario xenos are dragging someone across the map which implies there's no marines around to take advantage of the lower health.

The punishment also isn't very effective since well the larva can just heal on weeds and evolve like normal.
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Post by TheMaskedMan2 » 21 Jun 2017, 02:09

-1 For reasons mentioned above.
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Re: Dead Body? Larva Weakens!

Post by K0NFL1QT » 21 Jun 2017, 02:31

Larva shouldn't be bursting from dead marines anyway. The xeno infestation grows like a tumorous cancer; it's not an implanted egg. If the host dies, the growth process should be disrupted. Unless there's credible canon examples of larva bursting from dead guys I'm unaware of?
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Post by Crab_Spider » 21 Jun 2017, 11:49

K0NFL1QT wrote:Larva shouldn't be bursting from dead marines anyway. The xeno infestation grows like a tumorous cancer; it's not an implanted egg. If the host dies, the growth process should be disrupted. Unless there's credible canon examples of larva bursting from dead guys I'm unaware of?
The extreme psychological impact of the Chestburster's birth mechanism has actually been known to have an adverse effect on the survival of other embryos — witnesses to the gory spectacle who discover they are impregnated themselves often seek to end their life before enduring such an agonizing end, whether through their own actions or euthanasia. This can be fatal for the Chestburster, although depending on the manner of death it is possible for it to survive even after the host has died and emerge later.[2]Stasis is known to halt Chestburster development and prevent birth, as seen when Corporal Tequila was placed into hypersleep to prevent the embryo inside her from hatching.[18]
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