Remove alien limb targetting

[HalfdeadKiller]

Summary (a quick, 2-3 sentence summary): Basically, remove the ability for aliens to target limbs, ONLY IF it is possible to randomize the limb location aliens slash. It'll randomly swap from chest, to head, to hands, to feet, to legs, in any order. This would prevent all the salt from aliens targetting only one limb, and would kinda make having different armor values interesting.

Benefits (How this will benefit the server and game as a whole): Mostly summed in the summary.

Details (Description of how you think this would work, the benefits, etc): See Summary

Implementation (Optional, if you have an idea how to implement it): Code I'd imagine. Not entirely sure how, however.

[Jeser]

Also, it would be pretty logical, because in fight no one can always hit the same part of a body, even if he really trying. If I'm not mistaken, bullets of marines can hit sometimes not that part where you are aiming at.

[spheretech]

Surprised this is coming from a dev. I thought you guys could just decide amongst yourselves. I never had a problem with limb targeting until ravagers got that crazy speed and charge update. I don't remember the last time I had a limb cut off by something other than a ravager. I am ok with this though

[TeknoKot]

B-but muh feet slashing. -1

No, I disagree, this'll cause more salt for the aliens than muhreens. Dying is literally part of the game for marines and they should be more careful than rather rambo in like an idiot.

[spheretech]

Teknokot sounds like a diehard alien player though, disagreeing on everything when it comes to aliens

[Wickedtemp]

-1
Pretty sure the selected limb isn't hit 100% of the time anyways.

[TeknoKot]

Teknokot sounds like a diehard alien player though, disagreeing on everything when it comes to aliens

bud, I play muhreen most of the times. I don't really like going alien, unless I want to go as a ravager for shits and giggles, or carrier.

[freemysoul]

-1/2 Don't remove limb removal just make it ALOT more fucking dangerous to the player so we aeren't stuck there in a nest in paincrit for 20 fucking minutes. -Insert just ghost remarks and do something else remarks-

Pre Ghost Remarks: You can't be cloned when you ghost.

Pre Something else Remarks: Still does solve the fact a leg being removed should be fucking deadly without medical care on standby.

[monkeysfist101]

+1
In the source material, unless they were going for the head bite, the xenos always attacked the torso. From a gameplay standpoint, intentional dismembering is a cheap way to take a player out of the round for 20+ minutes.

[Jeser]

-1
Pretty sure the selected limb isn't hit 100% of the time anyways.

B-but muh feet slashing. -1

No, I disagree, this'll cause more salt for the aliens than muhreens. Dying is literally part of the game for marines and they should be more careful than rather rambo in like an idiot.

You are in group of marines, ravager rushes inside of a crowd, 2-4 slashes aimed at arm, rushes out and running away in bushes. Congratulations, you all now miss that arm he was targeting at.

Hunter pounces me from the corner, 3 slashes - my foot flies off.

Yes, in both cases marines were near,aliens retreated without capturing and no one died, but other wounded and me were taken out of game for nearly 20 minutes in 4-6 seconds. I'd look at you if you got in that situation.

And this happens more often, than you think.

I don't like total removing aiming at limbs, but adding a bit of RNG in that would be good.

[HalfdeadKiller]

Surprised this is coming from a dev. I thought you guys could just decide amongst yourselves. I never had a problem with limb targeting until ravagers got that crazy speed and charge update. I don't remember the last time I had a limb cut off by something other than a ravager. I am ok with this though

We could, but I like seeing how the community feels on topics. Especially ones that I don't think have been discussed yet. I'm also relatively new to the development of CM in my opinion, at least, compared to the other devs.

B-but muh feet slashing. -1

No, I disagree, this'll cause more salt for the aliens than muhreens. Dying is literally part of the game for marines and they should be more careful than rather rambo in like an idiot.

And aliens don't get salty from E-grilles and mines and stuff? Randomly targetting body parts won't really cause many issues in my opinion. And having your leg cut off in one single ravager charge is stupid if you ask me. You could possibly lower the armor values of arms and legs with random slashing, so that IF the code targets the arms, their arm will be hurt. This prevents all the aliens from targetting SPECIFICALLY that one unarmored part. Marines don't even get a real choice to aim at alien's body parts. They don't even get limbs blown off or damaged, so why should we allow aliens to slash only one specific limb because there is no armor there?

[Rey]

I like the idea, +1.
I think it should instead aim for chest with a chance to hit head or something else (critical) instead of random limb targeting.

[OatzAndHoes]

+1
I'd like to see you still be able to aim at limbs, but with a heavy RNG element involved. Something like 50% chance to hit the limb you were aiming at/50% chance to hit something else.

[Wickedtemp]

You are in group of marines, ravager rushes inside of a crowd, 2-4 slashes aimed at arm, rushes out and running away in bushes. Congratulations, you all now miss that arm he was targeting at.

Hunter pounces me from the corner, 3 slashes - my foot flies off.

Yes, in both cases marines were near,aliens retreated without capturing and no one died, but other wounded and me were taken out of game for nearly 20 minutes in 4-6 seconds. I'd look at you if you got in that situation.

And this happens more often, than you think.

I don't like total removing aiming at limbs, but adding a bit of RNG in that would be good.

It happens to me frequently as well. As a doctor while the Sulaco was being invaded, I stayed in the far back lines away from conflict. Despite this I still got shot by a marine offscreen, stray bullets are a bitch. While I'm making sure I don't die, a Ravager shows up. They charge, I lose my arm and after a while I get hugged but I die before I burst.

And you know what I felt?

"Huh. Well that escalated quickly! Time to play Stardew for a while " and then I went and played Stardew for a while. And then I went back to CM once the round restarted.

If you die as a survivor or a marine, it really isn't THAT big of a deal. There's no real time investment, you don't LOSE anything other than maybe you got lucky and had that attachment you always wanted. If you could respawn, it wouldn't take you ten minutes to gear up and be just as you were before. But for Xenos, there's a time investment. If you die as a T3, you're going to be waiting a good chunk of time to reach that again. You actually lose something.

[Logi99]

-1. It's the marines fault if they die not the ravagers. Queen is intelligent to say to aim for limb. So they go for the limb.

It's as simple as that..

[Lostmixup]

Going for the limbs is apart of the game, removing it would kinda be going backwards.

[ShortTemperedLeprechaun]

I think the biggest reason why aliens don't aim for the torso, is for most classes, the damage isn't enough to actually phase the marine, and it would most likely just cause pain-crit. For example with the runner caste, aiming at the torso is a horrible idea, because their damage output is low as hell in comparison to other castes, and hthe armor makes it almost nothing. Neutral

[Lucius Jones]

-1 yep, going for the limbs IS part of the game.

[MrJJJ]

How about we just, you know, extend armor much better to arms and legs, ya know? because it seems like people are disagreeing on removing limb targeting

still +1 this, due to how armor is made half useless when you can target a less armored part

[Sikillgard]

+1.

It's not like it's entirely removed, just placed it up on the RNjesus block.

In a certain perspective, it's pretty hilarious to see a ravager surgically remove a hand with it's mile-high blade.

[ThatOneEngie]

+1

Please jesus

[Feweh]

Aliens are intelligent creatures, it's logical theyd attempt to disable their target.

-1

[HalfdeadKiller]

But what fun is just having your feet lopped off all the time Feweh?

[Azmodan412]

Solution A: Buy better boots.
Solution B: Don't get in melee range with them to begin with.

[Feweh]

But what fun is just having your feet lopped off all the time Feweh?

Its not, but I think we can find a better solution to this than having random limb targeting.