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No eating Llving marines.

Post by LocalizedDownpour » 18 Apr 2016, 01:06

Summary (a quick, 2-3 sentence summary): I don't think it should be allowed to devour and entire living marine...transport him to the hive, then spit out an equally alive marine. For one. your mouths are way too small, unless you're like a t3/queen or something I just don't see how a runner is making this happen. I'm fairly sure this is just to let aliens speedily bring people back to the hive but...I disagree, huggers keep you down long enough to be dragged.

Benefits (How this will benefit the server and game as a whole): I think it gives people a chance to be saved while being brought back to their death sentence, seeing a runner zip by possibly having a giant ass marine in them...youed never know he is in there, seeing a runner dragging someone? well someone is going to react if they see you, also this might encourage more forward hives.

Details (Description of how you think this would work, the benefits, etc): I think this would encourage alien forward hives and gives marines a slightly better chance to be saved, and may encourage aliens to hunt in packs as well to avoid friends helping their fellow marines.

Implementation (Optional, if you have an idea how to implement it): Make it a rule.

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Re: No eating Llving marines.

Post by Jeser » 18 Apr 2016, 01:08

Huggers don't keep you stunned enough to be dragged from Nexus to hive. Also, that's the only way aliens can use tunnels to move marines.
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Re: No eating Llving marines.

Post by ThatOneEngie » 18 Apr 2016, 01:09

+1

Never really thought about it until now.
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Re: No eating Llving marines.

Post by LocalizedDownpour » 18 Apr 2016, 01:19

I'm really not one for nerfing aliens, I have fun playing as aliens, but this is just silly from any point I look at it, I simply do not see how a runner is eating a marine in full gear and still moving at lightning speed...the host only getting oxy damage...no acid burns or nothing. Eat dead bodies all you want...just not living ones.

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Re: No eating Llving marines.

Post by ThatOneEngie » 18 Apr 2016, 01:20

LocalizedDownpour wrote:I'm really not one for nerfing aliens, I have fun playing as aliens, but this is just silly from any point I look at it, I simply do not see how a runner is eating a marine in full gear and still moving at lightning speed...the host only getting oxy damage...no acid burns or nothing. Eat dead bodies all you want...just not living ones.
Personally I disagree with the last statement, but the rest rings true.
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Re: No eating Llving marines.

Post by Wickedtemp » 18 Apr 2016, 01:24

Then the xenos have NO POSSIBLE WAY of transporting marines through tunnels. So... until they're given an alternative, no. -1.

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Re: No eating Llving marines.

Post by LocalizedDownpour » 18 Apr 2016, 01:35

Wickedtemp wrote:Then the xenos have NO POSSIBLE WAY of transporting marines through tunnels. So... until they're given an alternative, no. -1.
Just make it so they can be dragged through...like marines do with ladders.

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Post by coroneljones » 18 Apr 2016, 05:23

They do get acid burns if they stay in there for too long I belive
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Re: No eating Llving marines.

Post by Minijar » 18 Apr 2016, 05:51

I find people abusing the burns to near crit Marines and then nest them.

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Post by Derpislav » 18 Apr 2016, 06:16

It's not the transporting part that irks me the most about devour, it's removing a body from the planet entirely, with all it's gear and hopes of being retrieved.

Both could be solved by changing it into a "strong grab".
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Re: No eating Llving marines.

Post by TeknoKot » 18 Apr 2016, 06:26

Derpislav wrote:It's not the transporting part that irks me the most about devour, it's removing a body from the planet entirely, with all it's gear and hopes of being retrieved.

Both could be solved by changing it into a "strong grab".
Why not just slowly kill the ayylamo who devoured dead bodies.
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Post by Jeser » 18 Apr 2016, 06:45

Minijar wrote:I find people abusing the burns to near crit Marines and then nest them.
Yeah, this really takes place.
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Post by TR-BlackDragon » 18 Apr 2016, 07:06

And just a heads up. Huggers do not knock you out long enough to drag back to the hive. Half the time it's not even enough time to devour and run back with the way some drones and hive lords go door crazy

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Post by Page Avenue » 18 Apr 2016, 08:36

I watched a Spitter eat 4 marines back to back. You'd think they'd need to digest things.

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Re: No eating Llving marines.

Post by Mitchs98 » 18 Apr 2016, 09:21

-1. This is actually one of the worst suggestions I've seen. I do believe you mean DEAD marines. Devouring dead marines is the issue here.

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Post by TR-BlackDragon » 18 Apr 2016, 10:26

Devouring dead marines is no longer an issue either as it no longer causes the lag like it used to

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Re: No eating Llving marines.

Post by Boltersam » 18 Apr 2016, 10:33

Derpislav wrote:It's not the transporting part that irks me the most about devour, it's removing a body from the planet entirely, with all it's gear and hopes of being retrieved.

Both could be solved by changing it into a "strong grab".
You know what would be cool? If aliens had an unbreakable grab, but marines could stand up while grabbed, so they could fire.
There was even a suggestion for being able to drag marines into vents and tunnels like in the movies! Spoopy!

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Re: No eating Llving marines.

Post by LocalizedDownpour » 18 Apr 2016, 10:36

Mitchs98 wrote:-1. This is actually one of the worst suggestions I've seen. I do believe you mean DEAD marines. Devouring dead marines is the issue here.
Devouring dead marines isn't an issue...not to me at any rate. if you're dead and an alien is eating you you're likely in the hive and you're not coming back. I'm simply looking at alien physics here...they're just not big enough to hold a living person in them and them birth them out, not to mention moving at full speed AND hacking them back up through their mouth in one piece...it just doesn't make sense.

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Re: No eating Llving marines.

Post by Jeser » 18 Apr 2016, 10:55

Boltersam wrote: You know what would be cool? If aliens had an unbreakable grab, but marines could stand up while grabbed, so they could fire.
There was even a suggestion for being able to drag marines into vents and tunnels like in the movies! Spoopy!

This is, actually, the only good idea how replace current devour/use tunnel/reurgiate system, which sucks in all ways.
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Re: No eating Llving marines.

Post by Zilenan91 » 18 Apr 2016, 11:02

If a live human has ammo on them the ammo should detonate and explode inside the xeno if it tries to devour them

Would still let survivors be able to be transported back but forces aliens to make forward hives once marines come out, reducing turtling.

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Re: No eating Llving marines.

Post by forwardslashN » 18 Apr 2016, 12:06

Derpislav wrote:It's not the transporting part that irks me the most about devour, it's removing a body from the planet entirely, with all it's gear and hopes of being retrieved.

Both could be solved by changing it into a "strong grab".
+1

I don't care about the retrieval part too much, but other marines should have access to the gear at least. Also eating bodies is silly as hell and we need grabs.
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This is, actually, the only good idea how replace current devour/use tunnel/reurgiate system, which sucks in all ways.
All of this, yeah. All for it. I think it was derp who suggested that heavy grabbing marines would cause pain, so you could transport them safely after you had a good grip on them.
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Re: No eating Llving marines.

Post by Logi99 » 18 Apr 2016, 13:39

Okay. As much as I gotta say the devouring is a silly mechanic but there is no other way to transport marines. I tried to transport a hivelord made tunnel like near the river and a marine nearly killed me. Getting larvas from marines will be impossible because:
1. Doctors can take it out.
2. MArines will just fucking kill the larva that comes out.
Tunnels is an important mechanic for aliens and so does the devouring as much silly it is.
Plus devouring takes time. And you can easily kill aliens by killing from the inside. Sooooo. I'll just gives this a -1.
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Post by ThatOneEngie » 18 Apr 2016, 14:10

Logi99 wrote:Okay. As much as I gotta say the devouring is a silly mechanic but there is no other way to transport marines. I tried to transport a hivelord made tunnel like near the river and a marine nearly killed me. Getting larvas from marines will be impossible because:
1. Doctors can take it out.
2. MArines will just fucking kill the larva that comes out.
Tunnels is an important mechanic for aliens and so does the devouring as much silly it is.
Plus devouring takes time. And you can easily kill aliens by killing from the inside. Sooooo. I'll just gives this a -1.
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Re: No eating Llving marines.

Post by Logi99 » 18 Apr 2016, 14:13

ThatOneEngie wrote: I was that marine, you ran in circles for a solid minute while pulling me along.
I'm pretty sure it was Egokor who I was taking but he fucked me up cause i went lone carrier lol.
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Post by ThatOneEngie » 18 Apr 2016, 16:10

Logi99 wrote: I'm pretty sure it was Egokor who I was taking but he fucked me up cause i went lone carrier lol.
Ah, not me then, It was a runner for me
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