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Post by Biolock » 19 Aug 2016, 13:28

Summary (a quick, 2-3 sentence summary):
With the transfer over to alpha, we left many things behind on the decrepit Nostromo. One of those things was the personal survival kit which was loaded (I think) with gauze wrap, a tricord auto injector, a flare and a set of internals. With leaving the endless void of space, we did not recognize the need for a survival kit, as internals were the primary thing stored inside. I think we should bring back the Survival Kit in more of a "Medical Kit" fashion.

Benefits (How this will benefit the server and game as a whole):
From a realism perspective, every single soldier and marine who's going to see combat, is going to have their own miniature first aid kit on them. This is both so that they can provide medical aid to themselves if necessary, and so if they're downed, and no medical specialists are nearby, their buddy can remove the kit and provide basic first aid.

Details (Description of how you think this would work, the benefits, etc):
I think that each med-pouch should act like a box, spawning in every marine's backpack with an assortment of medical tools. Gauze wrap, ointment, a dexplus injector (To be replaced by the decompression needle if/when it's implemented), and perhaps a single anti-toxin pill. This would be a realistic way to ensure that a marine can provide self/buddy aid in a dire situation, and free medics up to not force them to have to treat every single cut a marine gets.

Implementation (Optional, if you have an idea how to implement it): Fairly self-explanatory, though, in a perfect world, I'd like to see the pouch be in its own special storage slot, one that can not be removed and filled with something else; and the box being unable to accept any item that isn't one of those basic medications.
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Post by Sarah_U. » 19 Aug 2016, 14:05

I'm for it, will allow for aliens to be buffed a little so that things get a little bit dirtier while not leaving itself to being completly unfair.

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Post by Fritigern » 19 Aug 2016, 15:53

+11111111

In the real world, every soldier in a modern army carries an IFAK (Individual First Aid Kit, but there are different variations on the name). Basically bandages and a few simple medications, and space muhreens shouldn't be any different. Right now bringing your own medical supplies as a standard marine is a pain and there isn't nearly enough to go around. If we're REALLY going to remove cloning anytime soon, then every marine is going to need basic medical supplies. I suggest we duplicate what we see with the flare pouches and have the storage lockers hand out FAKs that contain a bandage pack, a tricord injector, a very mild painkiller (either a tramadol pill or something new with less power), and maybe a pack of splints.

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Post by NoahKirchner » 19 Aug 2016, 16:09

Fritigern wrote:+11111111

In the real world, every soldier in a modern army carries an IFAK (Individual First Aid Kit, but there are different variations on the name). Basically bandages and a few simple medications, and space muhreens shouldn't be any different. Right now bringing your own medical supplies as a standard marine is a pain and there isn't nearly enough to go around. If we're REALLY going to remove cloning anytime soon, then every marine is going to need basic medical supplies. I suggest we duplicate what we see with the flare pouches and have the storage lockers hand out FAKs that contain a bandage pack, a tricord injector, a very mild painkiller (either a tramadol pill or something new with less power), and maybe a pack of splints.
What about paracetamol for the weak painkiller?
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Post by Warnipple » 19 Aug 2016, 18:47

+1

I've always grabbed some bandages before going down as a marine. A personal medical kit would be greatly appreciated. I'm sure American soldiers in the Vietnam war were AT LEAST carrying bandages. Maybe more.
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Post by Neray » 19 Aug 2016, 20:57

+1, bring back good things.
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Post by completelynewguy » 20 Aug 2016, 03:57

+1, I'm getting tired of my squad not picking up the first aid kits I drop off before briefing.

A minor tweak I suggest is that Cargo should have at least twelve lFAKs, six in each Ammo Vendor.

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Post by KingKire » 09 May 2017, 15:12

I think it would be a nice addition to the marine kit.

Inside could hold 2-3 supplies maybe.

(Oitment, gauze, maybe tricord or tramadol pill)


There is also a good suggestion to create some "ointed guaze". i think it would be nice to just merge ointment and gauze into a singular patch.
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Post by contactdenied » 10 May 2017, 00:08

1+

I always grab basic medical supplies from the nano meds, but sometimes I'm too late or it could be out of stock. Giving a little medical kit to each marine reduces the amount of marines swarming medics in order to patch a bruise.
I'd recommend for the box to hold 3-4 medical items, like gauze, ointment, a Tricord autoinjector, and a Tramadol pill bottle if possible. Additionally, in case you run out of medical supplies in your pouch, you could replace it by adding med pouches to squad prep room uniform vendors. Just restock the vendor with the empty pouch, and get another one with the same medical supplies.
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Post by Biolock » 10 May 2017, 09:47

Forgot about this post. I think this is even more imperative since cloning has been removed.
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Re: Self Med-Pouch

Post by nerocavalier » 10 May 2017, 13:59

Would be a nice touch so marines can help each other and not slowly, oh so slowly bleed out because of one cut.
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Post by TheMusician321 » 10 May 2017, 14:15

+1 pls.
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Post by Breen » 10 May 2017, 15:08

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Post by Jeser » 31 May 2017, 04:29

Yes, I miss them. Tramadol pill in it saved my life so many times I can't remember.
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Post by TheMaskedMan2 » 31 May 2017, 18:30

+1 Makes perfect sense, have it be a small little container or box. Inside would be gauze, ointment, a trico injector, and a tramadol pill.

I don't think marines need an entire pill bottle at all, and I am thinking even more they may not even need the tramadol pill. Still want medics to have things to do. This would just be a basic "Not die" kit.
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Post by NoahKirchner » 31 May 2017, 22:05

In the rule clarification thread, apop just confirmed that marines don't really know what tramadol is/what it does. So removing that might be better
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Post by Jory13 » 31 May 2017, 23:36

Lets please add IFAK's +1
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Post by contactdenied » 01 Jun 2017, 00:37

A med box would hold gauze, ointment, a tricord injector, and, since marines don't know what tramadol really does, splints?
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Post by Jory13 » 01 Jun 2017, 00:45

Ointment and gauze, thats it, maybe tricord too.
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Post by darkwahn » 01 Jun 2017, 02:10

+1 Because I was just about to make this suggestion. Think it should be gauze, ointment, tricord auto.

Pain killer would be nice, but think that this stands a better chance without it.
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Post by Jeser » 01 Jun 2017, 02:23

On pre-Alpha we had this and exactly tram pill was the most important thing in it. This what can save marine's life. ANyway, this is good, but with Tram it will be best.
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Post by Ikmalmn » 01 Jun 2017, 05:10

Mostly +1 due to the fact that Marines can sustain themselves when there is no medic.

Also, eases the jobs of medic all around if the Marines are equiped with roll of gauze which stops bleeding. Making them easier to transport.
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Post by PestoVerde » 01 Jun 2017, 06:26

I completeley agree on this one, since there are plenty of situation where you are bleeding out and there isn't a gauze in the range of 30+ tiles, on top of that it would make medic's job easier and would prevent the medical dispenser to get emptied instantly.

Since I was at, I also made some sprites for it, resembling closeley one of those first aid pouches thingy.
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Post by Jeser » 01 Jun 2017, 06:55

Yep, I asked Apop exactly about tram and he said that marines don't know about them, so no tram in pouch.
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Post by Challenger » 01 Jun 2017, 07:01

His reply was somewhat ambiguous and I think he meant that you shouldn't be asking for a pill bottle of tram as a spec/smger first drop. That's basically giving away controlled substances on a whim without even confirming that it's gonna be a combat drop.
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