So they removed pain killer surgery (not Oxy)

[Undeademon]

First of all, sorry I won't be able to reply immediately.

Ok, I don't enjoy using Oxycodone as surgery painkiller, especially using that bug to have pretty much unlimited amounts of it, so I was quite happy when I could use a blend of painkillers to substitute it, so I could perform surgery.

Now the biggest reason why, was not for emergency surgery, but rather that I could perform normal surgeries on people, whilst they are conscious, as it made it entertaining for the person who would be performed on (e.g. Oh shit, shouldn't he be using anes- and those are my lungs), there is also the addition how this had little negative affects on the general game, but rather the RP in how it doesn't make sense.

Ideally I would have preferred the painkiller mix (not including oxy) have been left alone, to allow this, continued entertainment of it.

Also yes, if anyone who reads this and realizes it, a few months ago I was a crazy surgeon, I did perform successful surgeries nearly without fault, and there were no lasting ill effects, the only thing that happened that mattered, was how people wanted to RP afterwards, and it would all be for fun.

I am not expecting any kind of change, I am merely voicing an experience which I found fun, and others found fun, however it has now been removed. This is merely a game, not a serious simulator that will last forever, it's really the choice to make changes that makes the game more serious and lose fun aspects, losing your player base part by part, or make your game more fun and improve on what already exists, increasing your player base.

[Karmac]

It comes down to this:

The military doesn't enlist insane/idiotic marines.

Nor would they enlist insane/idiotic doctors to patch them up.

I'm tempted to believe that trained doctors would see using painkillers to keep a patient under when there's a ready anaesthetic tank as 'Un-Professional'.

[Undeademon]

It comes down to this:

The military doesn't enlist insane/idiotic marines.

Nor would they enlist insane/idiotic doctors to patch them up.

I'm tempted to believe that trained doctors would see using painkillers to keep a patient under when there's a ready anesthetic tank as 'Un-Professional'.

You say this, and people can have unlimited stocks of oxy just by sticking it in a machine, and taking it out again.

Also they enlist androids that can turn into crazy robots that kill people.

Not to forget, what effects does this have on the game? All surgeries can be completed in the same manner as anesthetic, hell we already perform surgeries while people are awake, because it is considered safer, also they call it anesthetic when I believe it should be called "anesthesia" instead.

I mean fuck, if you really want to get into it, Anesthetic in the game is actually Anesthesia, but they call it Anesthetic because they think it's right, but it's wrong.
Whoever (and I mean RP) labeled those Anesthesia Gas canisters "Anesthetic" should be fucking fired for being an illiterate bastard.

[wastedfate]

It comes down to this:

The military doesn't enlist insane/idiotic marines.

Nor would they enlist insane/idiotic doctors to patch them up.

Military enlists idiotic marines.

Military enlists idiotic doctors.

Military sends said idiotic marines on a suicide mission to purge aliens from a planet.

CM in a nutshell.

[Undeademon]

Military enlists idiotic marines.

Military enlists idiotic doctors.

Military sends said idiotic marines on a suicide mission to purge aliens from a planet.

CM in a nutshell.

This person has so much more common sense.

[Swagile]

Only idiots would be crazy enough to keep fighting against hulking monstrosities that can rip a tank apart with their bare hands and still joke about it.

Honestly, some of the more interesting moments ive seen is when a doctor ignores one patient that is about to burst to save another critical, and right when the larvae bursts, the doctor goes gun hoe with a circular saw on the larvae then washes their hands calmly then throws the bursted marine towards cloning and continues surgery on everyone else like they didn't just kill a alien, but like it was just another day.

Thats just in general from what ive seen anyway.

[Telegnats]

I feel as though "Well a real military wouldn't do this" is a weak argument considering we're talking about a spacefaring corporately sponsered/controlled military ~140 years in the future

[Toroic]

Local anesthetic has been a thing for a long time.

[Undeademon]

Local anesthetic has been a thing for a long time.

Well aware of that, question is, why can't I perform conscious surgery, since we do actually have that today, instead of using Anesthesia (i.e. the labelled "anesthetic" gas they have in the ORs), or in the very least, be able to mix a concoction of Painkillers to make a improvised Anesthetic?

Also this is my opinion, people who are in charge are way too nit-picky, when you've got shit like marines and MPs killing each other. Don't want to hire a psycho doctor who is successful in nearly all his operations? (dont give me that shit "nearly", we know how badly they can go), then maybe stop hiring psycho MP or psycho Marines?

[apophis775]

Why don't you take the autoinjector called ANESTHETIC out and use that for surgery?

[Undeademon]

Why don't you take the autoinjector called ANESTHETIC out and use that for surgery?

because that is more stupid than military hiring crazy doctors, marines, military police, incompetent CM, etc, etc, etc, do you see where I'm going with this?

It's also a waste, with such a limited supply and how you need Plasma to create it, which is an even bigger waste. (also stupid because we already make powerful anesthetics without plasma)

It was always easier to make my own concoction of painkillers, so I could perform surgery on people on the fly, and I didn't have to use Oxy, so I wouldn't be wasting anything, plus if I went planet side, it wouldn't be unlimited like Oxy.

[Karmac]

because that is more stupid than military hiring crazy doctors, marines, military police, incompetent CM, etc, etc, etc, do you see where I'm going with this?

It's also a waste, with such a limited supply and how you need Plasma to create it, which is an even bigger waste. (also stupid because we already make powerful anesthetics without plasma)

It was always easier to make my own concoction of painkillers, so I could perform surgery on people on the fly, and I didn't have to use Oxy, so I wouldn't be wasting anything, plus if I went planet side, it wouldn't be unlimited like Oxy.

You know you can restock anaesthetics right?

And if they hack the medvends planetside, they can take anaesthetics too.

[Undeademon]

You know you can restock anaesthetics right?

And if they hack the medvends planetside, they can take anaesthetics too.

Yes, I do, but I reiterate "that is more stupid than military hiring crazy doctors, marines ..."

Plus why remove from the game, painkillers you are required to make, that are LIMITED and even have a cooldown in the rate it is made, to perform surgery, instead of literally stronger painkillers that you can have an UNLIMITED SUPPLY of at a instant, just by sticking it into a machine?!

The logic is nonsensical.