Is it just me or is the pred explosion unfair?

[caleeb101]

Marines having to deal with a predator is becoming pretty unfair now. This round, I was playing as a classic observer again. I saw a few marines firing at a pred in the center of the nexus. After the pred took a few bursts and bucks it dropped to the ground and the game froze. I was thinking: Well here comes the explosion. Rip 1 or 2 people. Then my mouth drops in amazement as half the marine force drop onto the floor in critical condition, one of them being totally gibbed. The lurking aliens closed in on the marines and you can tell what happened from there. Yet Aliens are allowed to loldodge the OB just because it's 'beeping'. They don't even know what the hell it is. Hell, they'd probably be more interested in finding out what it is instead of running away from it. It's not even a retreat of a few tiles. They know to haul ass and avoid it like the plague. The two explosions should have the same rules. Either they can both be avoided or they both eat up all their oblivious victims. (however I acknowledge that it is fairplay to the aliens to avoid the OB after they have seen it in action at least ONCE)

[Kerek]

In lore the pred explosion created ANTARTICA, it could blow up the whole map if they weighed lore over gameplay. Also, if you don't want to explode a nasty death, dont shoot the predator.

[Feweh]

They do, I have no problem with marines or xenos running from explosions.

[NescauComToddy]

In lore the pred explosion created ANTARTICA, it could blow up the whole map if they weighed lore over gameplay. Also, if you don't want to explode a nasty death, dont shoot the predator.

[Sodah]

Doesn't the pred explosion not even beep beforehand anymore?

[Casany]

Doesn't the pred explosion not even beep beforehand anymore?

The pred clicks quietly as it is about to explode, you have to listen well

Anyway, I don't agree. I say marines shouldnt kill the predator 4noraisen. I was observing this round, and here is exactly what happened

A predator went into the chapel and decloaked, then an SL came and started trying to make a deal or talk with it
A marine with a shotgun walked right up next to it, no provocation, and layed two shells into it
It punched the marine three times and took his gun, then he left
Then as he was leaving another marine layed into him 6 M41A bullets
Another marine blasted him with a shotgun
and soon all the marines except the SL were shooting at the pred for literally no other reason than they say a guy shooting at it
And it exploded and killed everyone

In situations like that, its completely the marines fault. The marines need to learn how to be less trigger happy

[TheMaskedMan2]

It beeps you just need to pay attention to it, most people are too busy kicking or clawing the Predator to notice the beeps.

[TheMaskedMan2]

The pred clicks quietly as it is about to explode, you have to listen well

Anyway, I don't agree. I say marines shouldnt kill the predator 4noraisen. I was observing this round, and here is exactly what happened

A predator went into the chapel and decloaked, then an SL came and started trying to make a deal or talk with it
A marine with a shotgun walked right up next to it, no provocation, and layed two shells into it
It punched the marine three times and took his gun, then he left
Then as he was leaving another marine layed into him 6 M41A bullets
Another marine blasted him with a shotgun
and soon all the marines except the SL were shooting at the pred for literally no other reason than they say a guy shooting at it
And it exploded and killed everyone

In situations like that, its completely the marines fault. The marines need to learn how to be less trigger happy

Also agreed on that, too many times when marines first land and im a Xeno, harmless and infront of like twenty of them, trying to RP or something, staying still for an interesting first contact, all of a sudden they just start shooting me up after the SL was trying to examine me. I know it's what I should expect but.. still.

[Recounted]

some preds just bullshit around and don't even follow the way how they said they will be "hunting" instead they just run up to marines sometimes and start getting an enitre squad on his ass then he just suicides himself for no reason other than to get a bunch of cheap kills.

[Daman453]

I tryed to hug a pred once, it then started killing people because it thought I was going to punch it. I knew preds exploded when they died so when it went down I still ran up to it to get good RP. Half the marine force died that day. Don't hug preds

[apophis775]

Beep is audible.

If you don't want to get decimated by a pred, then don't gang-bang him.

[RedsPro]

The marines need to learn how to be less trigger happy

less trigger happy

_{less happy}

It cant be done

[TheMaskedMan2]

some preds just bullshit around and don't even follow the way how they said they will be "hunting" instead they just run up to marines sometimes and start getting an enitre squad on his ass then he just suicides himself for no reason other than to get a bunch of cheap kills.

Now I'm not a mod or admin so I don't know the specifics of the rules but I imagine players like to occasionally switch up the way they are hunting from their "playstyle" in the application. I would be quite annoyed being restricted to only playing one way forever, I'm sure as long as the Predators keep it fun and fair with decent RP skills it's fine. At least that's my opinion on it.

[Jroinc1]

I know the pred explosion radius was recently HEAVILY buffed, to be about twice as wide as a max cap bomb. Besides that, can't say anything else about it.

[Dapper Stache]

It's huge, and it hurts, but at the same time, preds don't normally murderbone and keep their bullshit to individual players. So it's not often you'll get one exploding somewhere relevant unless he was provoked by something big.

[Kerek]

Just don't attack the preds and they won't attack you for the most part. and if you see a pred getting gank'd run

[Swagile]

Whats the point of a predator if your not supposed to attack them, and they stand by and don't actually do what their purpose is; aka hunt?

[TheMaskedMan2]

Whats the point of a predator if your not supposed to attack them, and they stand by and don't actually do what their purpose is; aka hunt?

Predators do hunt, in their own ways, and you may be mistaken because in game the Predators purpose isn't just "Hunt things!" it's more to create an interesting RP environment, and if that involves running around cloaked and occasionally spooking marines then so be it. If i'm making sense.

[Swagile]

Predators do hunt, in their own ways, and you may be mistaken because in game the Predators purpose isn't just "Hunt things!" it's more to create an interesting RP environment, and if that involves running around cloaked and occasionally spooking marines then so be it. If i'm making sense.

Xenos scare me more than predators, though, because I know a xeno will kill / hugger combat me in seconds if its close by.

Predators, though, I usually ignore 90% of the time and they don't do anything to me at all.

You only fear what will actually harm you, and since most Predators who makes spooky noises in the dark are actually pacifists, it really doesn't inspire any fear in me.

Its the same reason why we fear someone pointing a gun at us; the perceived threat that they will shoot you. But if you find out its merely a plastic cap gun, you aren't going to be afraid at all.

[Crab_Spider]

Xenos scare me more than predators, though, because I know a xeno will kill / hugger combat me in seconds if its close by.

Predators, though, I usually ignore 90% of the time and they don't do anything to me at all.

You only fear what will actually harm you, and since most Predators who makes spooky noises in the dark are actually pacifists, it really doesn't inspire any fear in me.

Its the same reason why we fear someone pointing a gun at us; the perceived threat that they will shoot you. But if you find out its merely a plastic cap gun, you aren't going to be afraid at all.

Lets step back on that comparison, predators are powerful enough to pull a human's skull from the body with the spine still attached, and their appearance itself is more than threatening. They're more than 7 feet tall, muscular, have 4 mandibles, make an indecipherable clicking sound (what can't be understood makes a threat even more threatening because they can't be reasoned with), their skin is rather rough and super durable, and they have infrared vision naturally.

[caleeb101]

Lets step back on that comparison, predators are powerful enough to pull a human's skull from the body with the spine still attached, and their appearance itself is more than threatening. They're more than 7 feet tall, muscular, have 4 mandibles, make an indecipherable clicking sound (what can't be understood makes a threat even more threatening because they can't be reasoned with), their skin is rather rough and super durable, and they have infrared vision naturally.

There is just a certain point where you can't ask players to be more ignorant than they are already begged to be. They're already asked to forget that the aliens are there even though they KNOW that they are there. Players KNOW predators won't harm them if they don't do anything and so they don't fear it. You can't force yourself to be scared of something that you know is harmless. Metagaming will always be a factor in rounds. Only real dedicated players can supress their ooc self and really immerse themselves into the game. Nobody cares that they are 7 foot and whatnot. On the game, they're just the pixels you DON'T care about.

[Swagile]

There is just a certain point where you can't ask players to be more ignorant than they are already begged to be. They're already asked to forget that the aliens are there even though they KNOW that they are there. Players KNOW predators won't harm them if they don't do anything and so they don't fear it. You can't force yourself to be scared of something that you know is harmless. Metagaming will always be a factor in rounds. Only real dedicated players can supress their ooc self and really immerse themselves into the game. Nobody cares that they are 7 foot and whatnot. On the game, they're just the pixels you DON'T care about.

This sums up my thoughts.

[Feweh]

There is just a certain point where you can't ask players to be more ignorant than they are already begged to be. They're already asked to forget that the aliens are there even though they KNOW that they are there. Players KNOW predators won't harm them if they don't do anything and so they don't fear it. You can't force yourself to be scared of something that you know is harmless. Metagaming will always be a factor in rounds. Only real dedicated players can supress their ooc self and really immerse themselves into the game. Nobody cares that they are 7 foot and whatnot. On the game, they're just the pixels you DON'T care about.

What are you talking about, if you shoot your gun, have a gun on you or kill/attack aliens you're a valid target.
You can be just standing there doing nothing and be the target of a predator.

This is the problem with players who complain about predator, they're completely ignorant of Predators.

[Swagile]

What are you talking about, if you shoot your gun, have a gun on you or kill/attack aliens you're a valid target.
You can be just standing there doing nothing and be the target of a predator.

This is the problem with players who complain about predator, they're completely ignorant of Predators.

Your right.

The problem is a lot of Predators ive seen don't actually take this as seriously as you think.

Some predators are glorified spectators who simply watch the entire round and don't do anything except make spooky noises.

Others build a home in the jungles... and don't do anything except loot the colony for more building supplies.

They don't act like a predator, they act more like OP Survivors.

That is the complaint; that they just don't get involved in the round as much. When I saw a Predator rush into a marine squad to take down one marine that ran away from a honor duel and managed to succeed even while being shot at by AP and then whizzed away at high speed, I was actually afraid for myself. That, however, is actually rare; which it shouldn't be.

[Feweh]

Your right.

The problem is a lot of Predators ive seen don't actually take this as seriously as you think.

Some predators are glorified spectators who simply watch the entire round and don't do anything except make spooky noises.

Others build a home in the jungles... and don't do anything except loot the colony for more building supplies.

They don't act like a predator, they act more like OP Survivors.

That is the complaint; that they just don't get involved in the round as much. When I saw a Predator rush into a marine squad to take down one marine that ran away from a honor duel and managed to succeed even while being shot at by AP and then whizzed away at high speed, I was actually afraid for myself. That, however, is actually rare; which it shouldn't be.

K but heres the problem, when one does what they're supposed to do and mass hunt and kill a bunch of people... everyone cries and complains.
Now people are complaining that predators don't hunt and kill people enough.

Damned if they do, damned if they don't