Slashing Forbidden question

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Slashing Forbidden question

Post by Jembo » 26 Mar 2017, 10:45

So I recently got into a disagreement to what the full extend of what it means to have slashing off. I see it as a sign that the queen wants as many alive hosts as possible so to kidnap without harming them. Going as far as to forbid xenos from using harmful intent until the queen allows it. But we have xeno casts that can do damage and kill people without slashing. So is that going over the queens orders by harming / potentially killing hosts? So what's the difference between slashing and corrosive acid? They're both used kill potential hosts so wouldn't both not be allowed until the queen allows it? Forcing xenos to use neurtoxin in it's place? I'm open to suggestion but I'm bias as I feel the coded system for forbidding harm is a clear sign of the direction the games direction until that button is pushed.

But I also understand on the other hand, sometimes it's easier to harm/kill a tricky host. And at what point is it okay for xenos to ignore the queens no slashing to just start harming hosts from their own free will. Is it a situation where each situate is special and should be treated as such? Or is it, xenos can harm hosts at any point if they see fit to do so.

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Post by Karmac » 26 Mar 2017, 11:43

I feel like it'd help if you played xeno once in a while.
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Re: Slashing Forbidden question

Post by Crab_Spider » 26 Mar 2017, 14:05

Corrosive Acid can't be used to harm hosts when slashing is restricted, it simply does no damage.

Xenos can only harm or let hosts live if the Queen wills it, although in canon, she sees everything the underlings do and has the ability to change their actions as she sees fit, in game, this isn't possible for purposes of lag.
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Re: Slashing Forbidden question

Post by MrJJJ » 05 Apr 2017, 01:13

Meh, usually nobody does it, once marines are down, and there is a infected host running around, you run a big risk of deaths because they can't hug them neither hurt them, the only way is to charge or stomp, or somehow get close enough.

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Re: Slashing Forbidden question

Post by Casgair » 05 Apr 2017, 13:49

Crab_Spider wrote:Corrosive Acid can't be used to harm hosts when slashing is restricted, it simply does no damage.
Can't speak for spitter acid, but I'm positive boiler gas can cause damage regardless of slash restrictions.

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Post by Jembo » 06 Apr 2017, 08:00

Casgair wrote:Can't speak for spitter acid, but I'm positive boiler gas can cause damage regardless of slash restrictions.
This is exactly the situation I personally encountered. Also I do play xeno it's not as easy as people make it out to be, but still not that difficult. The only point I'm trying to make is, why can't marines pick up sadars and use them? Because they're not allowed. Why should xenos be allowed to harm hosts if slashing is clicked off?

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Post by Crab_Spider » 06 Apr 2017, 08:23

Jembo wrote:This is exactly the situation I personally encountered. Also I do play xeno it's not as easy as people make it out to be, but still not that difficult. The only point I'm trying to make is, why can't marines pick up sadars and use them? Because they're not allowed. Why should xenos be allowed to harm hosts if slashing is clicked off?
Marines don't have training to use the SADAR from an RP standpoint (you need actual training to use a rocket launcher) and the fact it'd fuck over balance and make it a-okay to strip a spec of his SADAR to use it this would also extend over to other spec weapons too.

The slashing thing is a bit tricky to talk about. when it's off, xenos have no other choices but to combat hug (like idiots) or stay out of combat. When it's restricted, it meabs xenos can still slash but all damage is reduced.
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Re: Slashing Forbidden question

Post by Karmac » 06 Apr 2017, 10:48

It's more of a heavy deterrent than a straight up "That's a negative ghost rider".
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