How the hell does one survive as a survivor?

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How the hell does one survive as a survivor?

Post by taketheshot56 » 31 Aug 2017, 22:43

I've been a survivor a fair amount of times now, and one thing remains the same, its fucking insane trying to survive, I get about a 20% survival rate. There are generally several tactics I've used in the past which seem to slowly stopped working over the past few weeks, and here they are, Tactic one, hiding, a locker, a fridge a cabinet etc etc.... it used to be one of the best tactics, xenos just went about collecting hosts, nowadays runners sprint around busting open every locker in the map like they knew survivors were hiding in them, this didn't use to happen at least not to the degree that it is now, tactic two, fortification, barring oneself in a room, a hallway etc. I've built AMAZING forts, with what I've had, but most of the time the runners would run around, then finally a sent would show up, and acid one wall and it would be all over. The only way the tactic worked, was if you had stupid ayys or a super quick marine drop such as 12:18, but recently deployments are at 12:30, 12:40. Not that it even matters as nowadays survivors skillsets have severe limits meaning its a hard roll to get survivor, let alone rolling for a construction capable survivor. So, I ask you this how the hell does one survive as a survivor anymore? Please share your tactics below so that I can perhaps die less as a survivor, thanks.
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Re: How the hell does one survive as a survivor?

Post by Steelpoint » 31 Aug 2017, 22:44

Sometimes the only winning move is not to play at all.

That or be a survivor on Prison Station where you can get quick access to M16s and Shotguns.
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Re: How the hell does one survive as a survivor?

Post by Kerek » 31 Aug 2017, 22:45

Get the shotgun, get medical stuffs, group with other survivors, run around the map, killing anything near you that you can, breaking into secure dome gives a shotgun and m4, incinerator unit on big reds great, hprs etc. your best chance is to get weapons and group with the other survivors, lock down an area or stay on the move. Both can be done.
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Re: How the hell does one survive as a survivor?

Post by Swagile » 31 Aug 2017, 22:55

survivor skill sets ruined survivor

the ONLY way to survive as a survivor is to be able to powergame, the moment that was removed from survvior and its now suicide mode

tbh survivors should honestly have the best skillsets in the game, they literally survived a xenomorph invasion, they are badasses in at least ONE skill, either hiding, gunning, or making forts

survivor skillsets should either be removed and make them all purpose, or make them so good in one skill set that they are like 3 people in 1 when they are said job. as a doctor they can patch someone up in seconds, as a construction worker they can put down amazing cades with double armor value, etc etc.
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Re: How the hell does one survive as a survivor?

Post by TheMaskedMan2 » 31 Aug 2017, 22:55

Hide in a bodybag in an obscure corner under shit, works every time.
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Re: How the hell does one survive as a survivor?

Post by Nightwolf901 » 31 Aug 2017, 22:58

You
A: Don't play Survivor
B: Pray to god you don't encounter 6 Runners with in the first 4 minutes of reaching security and get weaponry
C: Hide
D: Build a fucking fort in T-Comms and call the Marines Pirates
E: D is not able to be done anymore
F: Just let the xenos take you and admit defeat
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Re: How the hell does one survive as a survivor?

Post by Shuffl3 » 31 Aug 2017, 23:19

As a survivor, the only thing worse than getting killed by the xenos is getting rescued by marines.
Just have a fun time surviving and stick around to take part in the first burst wave.
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Re: How the hell does one survive as a survivor?

Post by starmute » 31 Aug 2017, 23:50

taketheshot56 wrote:I've been a survivor a fair amount of times now, and one thing remains the same, its fucking insane trying to survive, I get about a 20% survival rate. There are generally several tactics I've used in the past which seem to slowly stopped working over the past few weeks, and here they are, Tactic one, hiding, a locker, a fridge a cabinet etc etc.... it used to be one of the best tactics, xenos just went about collecting hosts, nowadays runners sprint around busting open every locker in the map like they knew survivors were hiding in them, this didn't use to happen at least not to the degree that it is now, tactic two, fortification, barring oneself in a room, a hallway etc. I've built AMAZING forts, with what I've had, but most of the time the runners would run around, then finally a sent would show up, and acid one wall and it would be all over. The only way the tactic worked, was if you had stupid ayys or a super quick marine drop such as 12:18, but recently deployments are at 12:30, 12:40. Not that it even matters as nowadays survivors skillsets have severe limits meaning its a hard roll to get survivor, let alone rolling for a construction capable survivor. So, I ask you this how the hell does one survive as a survivor anymore? Please share your tactics below so that I can perhaps die less as a survivor, thanks.

Sometimes it is useful to pretend to be dead. I've pretended to be dead a few times by resting in big red. It took a good long while for the ays to break into where I was hiding and even then I pretended to be dead when it was dragging me I ran off to the closest gunfire and was saved. Then I was killed by a sentry turret later but... yep.
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Re: How the hell does one survive as a survivor?

Post by davidofmk771 » 01 Sep 2017, 00:13

I don't like that survivors are (afaik) hardcapped at 3. This is pretty much a death sentence during 120+ rounds, especially on maps like Big red where there's nothing blocking the queen from screeching and crippling the survivors that manage to find each other. I think the cap should be raised to 5 for high-pop rounds (120-150 players). Survivor RP always makes me happy, the story of a bunch of rag-tang underdogs doing anything and everything they can to stave off the horrible that killed everyone they know.

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Re: How the hell does one survive as a survivor?

Post by taketheshot56 » 01 Sep 2017, 00:41

starmute wrote:Sometimes it is useful to pretend to be dead. I've pretended to be dead a few times by resting in big red. It took a good long while for the ays to break into where I was hiding and even then I pretended to be dead when it was dragging me I ran off to the closest gunfire and was saved. Then I was killed by a sentry turret later but... yep.
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Re: How the hell does one survive as a survivor?

Post by starmute » 01 Sep 2017, 01:11

taketheshot56 wrote:Xenos have a hud that tells them if you are alive or dead.
Wow... guess I was really lucky then. They can see it through walls?
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Re: How the hell does one survive as a survivor?

Post by kazere » 01 Sep 2017, 01:26

The HUD is not on by default so you are really lucky there
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Re: How the hell does one survive as a survivor?

Post by Shuffl3 » 01 Sep 2017, 01:50

The skull icon that pops up over dead mobs is not part of the Xeno Status HUD and will always indicate if a mob is dead or not.
You can confuse it by resting on the same tile as another dead mob. Unless the Xeno checks the contents of the tile it will just look like one ded dude.

The Xeno knew you were alive, thats why it was dragging you off.
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Re: How the hell does one survive as a survivor?

Post by Hulkamania » 03 Sep 2017, 01:43

Survivor is a flavor role, and an intentionally difficult one at that. Your best hope is for an early deployment by the marines and then a rescue..

Course you could just end up getting gunned down because no one bothered to shut off the turrets.
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Re: How the hell does one survive as a survivor?

Post by Heckenshutze » 05 Sep 2017, 12:02

Currently until a rework happens, survivor is a tool for marines to go all the way to the caves destroying eggs and performing abortions.

So just hide until marine deployment
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Re: How the hell does one survive as a survivor?

Post by Robotonic » 05 Sep 2017, 14:15

I've found that taking the nearest shotgun, loading it with buckshot and then running like hell yakety saxing it all over the place works pretty well. Running away from them, suddenly turning around and blasting them, repeat this until they either back-off from damage or boredom, or you manage to run away yourself. Then you sit down for a lil while, maybe a minute or two, in a building somewhere.

I personally find the more people I'm grouped-up with the more likely I am to die, probably because most people try and make a fortress. I don't think fortresses really work.

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Re: How the hell does one survive as a survivor?

Post by caleeb101 » 26 Sep 2017, 06:58

just dab and hope the xenos die of cringe
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Re: How the hell does one survive as a survivor?

Post by Symbiosis » 26 Sep 2017, 08:15

Flamethrower and buckshot.

A single flamethrower burst kills Young/Mature runners and Young T2's. Buckshot can instagib Runners and Hunters that you'll faceS On Big Red you'll unfortunately have to deal with the Queen eventually. High pop survivor is RNG if the other survivors link up. If they do? You'll have a better chance of surviving.
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Re: How the hell does one survive as a survivor?

Post by Casany » 26 Sep 2017, 08:43

Just remove the skill system for the survivors, and the survival rate will go back up. If I wanna make walls in the sand temple and hide in a body bag, I should be able to. Instead, I just don't have the skills and I die anyway.

I mean, survivors already had a hard time surviving, why'd you handicap them more with the skill system?
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Re: How the hell does one survive as a survivor?

Post by Crab_Spider » 26 Sep 2017, 12:05

Grab some plasteel from that storage, make a knife grip, make a knife blade, attach them, screwdrive them together, pick it up. Get your hands onto a bulky-huge item, grab some wood, find an area that's easy to fortify but hard to overrun, grab a radio. You're not guaranteed to survive. This is a role that's based on luck and skill, you have no armor, and you have little light. You're a civilian. You get a gun, but you won't use it with much success.

Focus on making a knife, getting wood (who said you'll be an engineer), and getting a radio. Anything else is bound to slow you down and get you caught. If you're pressed for time, get a fucking body bag (you powergaming fuck) go to an area that will be last searched, get a knife, and hide in that area. Get robotic limbs too.

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Re: How the hell does one survive as a survivor?

Post by misterjoper » 17 Oct 2017, 05:58

RP with aliens,make puppy eyes,poke aliens and beg for mercy.May be the Queen will be kind enough not to kill you.
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Re: How the hell does one survive as a survivor?

Post by Sargeantmuffinman » 17 Oct 2017, 10:21

On LV:

Get the guns or not, hide.
Wait for marines.
Pray.

Big Red:

Southern research contains one W-Y firearms crate.
In the Administratio building, there's MP7s and 88Mod pistols.
And just stay in the research lab.

Ice Colony:

Get the snow shovels, the double barrel shotgun in the bar, barricade yourself in the crashed ship.
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Re: How the hell does one survive as a survivor?

Post by OatzAndHoes » 17 Oct 2017, 16:39

Another thing that severely nerfed survivors on LV was the implementation of fog. It limited locations where you could hide and got rid of survivors abilities to make a tunnel north of the river and camp out there with tables/barricades.

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Re: How the hell does one survive as a survivor?

Post by HR171 » 23 Oct 2017, 16:06

'how the hell does one survive as survivor?"
With difficulty
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Re: How the hell does one survive as a survivor?

Post by spookydonut » 25 Oct 2017, 06:39

Find other survivors that are better than you and then hide behind them (this works for me)

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