Squad Colors

[ExpoStealth]

I was just thinking about this, but what if the squads didnt have colors, and instead each person had the little thing that SL's, Smartgunner's, medic's, and Spec's have, so basicly PFC have them too.

Idk I just think that it would feel more military like if we werent all painted with bright colors, I mean wouldnt it look cooler with just the base color of our armor?

Say what you think, id like to know.

[ImHereToHelp]

The colors are for the player's sake. Do you memorize the pixel combination of everyone's face?

[ExpoStealth]

The colors are for the player's sake. Do you memorize the pixel combination of everyone's face?

Yes, actually I color everyones face by hand and write their name down in my journal every round.

Thats why everyone would have a tag beside their head.

[ImHereToHelp]

Yes, actually I color everyones face by hand and write their name down in my journal every round.

Thats why everyone would have a tag beside their head.

A tag for what? Their role?

That's a lot of floating symbols.

[ExpoStealth]

A tag for what? Their role?

That's a lot of floating symbols.

The small square that every role besides PFC has, might as well give it to PFC's too.

[Trench007]

I assume you mean each PFC would have a small squad colored symbol following them around, right?

[Pictish20]

I think colors are handy, especially for new players. They can easily see which prep, which brief area, which so on and so forth, and it just naturally carries over to armor. Plus, I think the armor looks better with the colors.

[Clayton_Kelly]

I think if the colors were more subdued, that'd be cool.

[ExpoStealth]

I think colors are handy, especially for new players. They can easily see which prep, which brief area, which so on and so forth, and it just naturally carries over to armor. Plus, I think the armor looks better with the colors.

Yes I know that is the main point of the colors, but it just feels childish after a while. Like arent we suppose to be tough, scary, space murins? Not some toy soldier with bright red, or purple on them.

[Voldirs]

space murins

[ExpoStealth]

Goddamnit, i stand corrected.

[SecretStamos (Joshuu)]

This is actually something we've given a lot of thought. The colors really diminish from the armor, but they serve a very important gameplay function.

We're definitely interested in hearing potential alternatives.

[Trench007]

This is actually something we've given a lot of thought. The colors really diminish from the armor, but they serve a very important gameplay function.

We're definitely interested in hearing potential alternatives.

A small colored symbol for each squad would appear next to standards, just like with specs, SLs, medics, smartgunners, and engineers. Yes, there would be more icons and it may be annoying. However, if they were reduced in size and made more transparent, that would greatly help reduce the eyesore of it all.

It probably wouldn't be that hard to test, have one round with them and see what player responses are like.

_{(I know the OP basically said this, but this has 'added clarification' in it)}

[ExpoStealth]

A small colored symbol for each squad would appear next to standards, just like with specs, SLs, medics, smartgunners, and engineers. Yes, there would be more icons and it may be annoying. However, if they were reduced in size and made more transparent, that would greatly help reduce the eyesore of it all.

It probably wouldn't be that hard to test, have one round with them and see what player responses are like.

_{(I know the OP basically said this, but this has 'added clarification' in it)}

Honestly the little tags for every squad member but PFC's is what i look for, they could even make the PFC's just have a tiny one or somethin, just showing they are Bravo PFC.

[Heckenshutze]

Make a suggestion about this, with some good neat ideas. I personally like this but you must find a good alternative, colors help a lot actually in-game

[Renomaki]

am I the only one who has no trouble noticing squad colors?

No wonder people friendly fire each other so often, they don't seem to have the most basic of observational skills. I was willing to tolerate giving special roles icons, but I don't think EVERY SINGLE MARINE needs a giant square next to them. It would just feel awkwardly cluttered.

If you really need a more blatant indicator of who belongs to who, maybe changing how armor is detailed. Maybe more obvious coloring instead of small lines might do the trick. Maybe something like... This?

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File ... _Gules.svg

[Trench007]

am I the only one who has no trouble noticing squad colors?

No wonder people friendly fire each other so often, they don't seem to have the most basic of observational skills. I was willing to tolerate giving special roles icons, but I don't think EVERY SINGLE MARINE needs a giant square next to them. It would just feel awkwardly cluttered.

If you really need a more blatant indicator of who belongs to who, maybe changing how armor is detailed. Maybe more obvious coloring instead of small lines might do the trick. Maybe something like... This?

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File ... _Gules.svg

The complaint is not that it's too hard to see who belongs to what squad, but that the armor looks cartoonish with the bright colors.

[ExpoStealth]

am I the only one who has no trouble noticing squad colors?

No wonder people friendly fire each other so often, they don't seem to have the most basic of observational skills. I was willing to tolerate giving special roles icons, but I don't think EVERY SINGLE MARINE needs a giant square next to them. It would just feel awkwardly cluttered.

If you really need a more blatant indicator of who belongs to who, maybe changing how armor is detailed. Maybe more obvious coloring instead of small lines might do the trick. Maybe something like... This?

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File ... _Gules.svg

That is a good alternative though, instead of the bright long lines and such, just a nice visible but not huge like path on the arm, peck, or back, maybe helmet too.

[SecretStamos (Joshuu)]

That's not a good alternative. A shield decal won't read visually on the armor or helmet given the very limited space we have.

[Renomaki]

That's not a good alternative. A shield decal won't read visually on the armor or helmet given the very limited space we have.

It wasn't what I meant.

I meant, instead of a small, dingy line along a helmet and slightly on the shoulders, maybe a more thicker line that goes down the right (or left) side of either the helmet or armor, giving it a stylistic and much easier to notice design.

The shield was just a demonstration.

[frozentsbgg]

I'm a big fan of the Colours being slightly dulled, still clearly visable but not so bright.

I really enjoy the Helmets specifically, the colours liike pretty on point there

[Pictish20]

Going back to why the armor is colored from an IC standpoint, from the special armor we see on Ice Colony, the USCMC uses multiple suits of armor for each marine. It would make perfect sense for each ship to be equipped with different sets of uniform for different situations. Knowing they would be dropping to the colony at night, and knowing that they would need their armor lights anyway, making camouflage pointless, they would give out the painted armor for easy identification at a glance. For the suggestion part, it would be interesting if there were multiple different patterns of paint (there are for the armor, if I'm not mistaken), specifically for the helmets. If there was a differently painted helmet in every other locker or something like that, it would increase immersion. I figure that the moment a marine got their hands on some paint, they'd personalize their get-out. There could be helmets like we have now, and one that is half one color, say, or an awful lot of other designs.

[Clayton_Kelly]

If you go the icon route, just make it a red box or whatever color to keep it simple. That way you can still find the important people easily.

[Steelpoint]

What would be interesting is if outsiders (Anyone not wearing a marine headset) did not see the armour colour strips on marine armour. So survivors or response teams would see the Marines as one singular appearance instead of a multi-coloured power ranger squad.

[Challenger]

I do find it hard to tell different groups of PFCs apart "at a glance", especially charlie/delta since their colors are almost exactly the same.

90% of the reason I love fireteams isn't because of their inherent worth but because the colored number next to a PFC makes it that much faster to ID his squad and find out if you/they're in the right place doing the right thing.

I'd suggest adding a squad-HUD box similar to the lcpl+ ones to all PFCs, which would be just a small dot instead of anything bigger.