Infection (Chest Burster Kind)

[Kerek]

So, I have a question. When are marines allowed to use chest-burster knowledge, without survivors. Like, when can we put two and two together of facehugger = infection = death? This is a question I've always had and I think it would be nice for it to finally be cleared up, for me personally.

[Nezara]

I have just started playing in the last 2 weeks and I have had 2 different experiences of this.

1. When I started playing and got face hugged, I waited what I thought was an appropriate amount of time, ran up to a medic and said that I felt strange, like my chest felt tight and breathing was a little hard. They suggested I head back up on the Alamo to the med bay for a scan. I purposely avoided death, but in a way that kept to role play.
2. When I became abit more experienced I started letting the infection run its course (because its hella funny actually watching yourself explode and seeing the chaos it causes). However if the commander or SL issues orders about facehuggers causing death and that all people who have had contact must get checked out in medical, then I got get checked out.

I think you have some flexibility on how you want to handle being infected, see what more veteran players think.

[contactdenied]

I usually apply chestburster knowledge to myself when I see the full cycle of what it ends up doing. If I see a marine get facehugged for the first time, I'd RP thinking it of some sort of last ditch survival effort to choke out the marine from the facehugger or something like that. If that marine ends up bursting some time afterwards I'd start to piece it together, and if I see it happen again it's confirmed for me.

[Sneakyr]

If I see a hugger latch onto some guy and he appears fine but then later he gets a worm out of the chest, I'm going to put two and two together. Hell, in real life I'm pretty sure that even getting into such prolonged and invasive contact with native, undocumented wildlife would warrant a full medical evaluation ASAP. I usually try only to destroy eggs if I've seen friendlies do it or if I've seen a hugger come out.

[Challenger]

Ruleswise I don't think anyone's ever been bwoinked for instantly medevaccing and running to the doctors after a facehugger latches on, no matter what other information is provided. I mean, just by itself the act is really weird, a thing knocks you out by jumping at you with a penis, kills itself, and when you wake up you have a weird taste in your mouth.

RPwise different characters should have different reactions obviously. Here's some information to consider when making a decision after being facehugged.

- Did someone else describe what the facehugger did to you after it latched on? Remember, you pass out as soon as it enters you.
- Have you seen live/dead facehuggers in a research/lab area?
- Have you seen gestating aliens in a research/lab area?
- Have you seen dead, chestbursted colonists?
- Have you seen dead, chestbursted monkeys?
- Have you seen aliens carry or throw facehuggers?
- Have you seen aliens place facehuggers onto marines?
- Have you seen aliens create nests next to eggs?
- Have you seen nested chestbursted colonists/monkeys?
- Have you seen (bloody) larva?
- Have you seen xenos transform into other xenos?
- Have you seen Carriers?

Etc., there's a lot of contextual clues that can key your character into deciding to medevac, more than just "oh i got crabbed lel".

[davidofmk771]

It seems insanely asinine to be barred from seeking medical help after an unknown alien species hops on your face and shoves something down your throat. That's why I like to RP short-term memory loss of the few moments before I was jumped. It makes sense that sudden loss of consciousness would cause some memory loss.

What I REALLY don't like is the culture of people who believe that one has absolutely no reason to worry after being dragged away by the same monsters that just murdered your brothers at arms. Yes, you do not know about the chestbursters, but does that really mean you are safe from a fate worse than death? If I found myself in that situation, I would commit suicide pretty quickly out of fear of being eaten alive by 2 story tall alien monsters that spit acid on their food like flies (I try not to do this simply because it reduces my xeno-respawn chances and subverts the xeno-reproduction mechanic to disastrous effect, however). Why should I automatically assume that capture means safety when it comes to bug-like murder-machines?

I would much rather that alien resin/being facehugged SEVERELY reduce your ability to move and preform actions at some expense of resin-effectiveness, like maybe marines can use one-handed items on their person (but not able to pick up items on the tiles adjacent to them) in nests or somesuch. One thing I love is how the skill system removed the need to hold back common, obvious knowledge like drugs and engineering simply to keep the game balanced, as that whole thing really kills my immersion and leaves me with a bit of the "what-could-have-been" blues.

[misto]

even if the exact specifics of what huggers and bursters do are forbidden, its just common sense to get checked up after a giant spider thing gets you and you pass out. it coulda been venomous or something. your blood could be clotting up inside you right then and there or whatever evil poison or venom effects you could imagine.

then it's in the hands of the medics and doctors to get you back to the ship, checked out, cut open, and voila your whole team is now finally entitled to knowledge that huggers make chest babbys

[Kerek]

Like, I have played for quite some time, but its generally just this massive gray area that's never really been clarified.

[taketheshot56]

Yea its a weird spot I mean, when I get facehugged I kinda just go up to the medic and say "oh shit man some thing jumped on me and knocked me out" and the medic usually says "gee man better go to the medbay" and when I get to medbay they just scan me and do the surgery. Its a massive gray area.

[Jagdges]

The discovery is inevitable and nobody really wants to be the first person dead. Like others have stated, the action alone warrants medical attention.

[GoliathTheDespoiler]

According to lore, an infected entity suffers from traumatic amnesia caused by the chems a Facehugger pumps into their body.

Unless there were witnesses to it, you shouldn't know what it did until you die or you witness it happen to someone else.

For me, I roleplay ignorance until someone tells me I got faceraped. If they tell me to go seek medical attention back home I tell them they're smoking it because I don't remember it and just get a medic to scan me.

[GoliathTheDespoiler]

it coulda been venomous or something. your blood could be clotting up inside you right then and there or whatever evil poison or venom effects you could imagine.

Antitox would make this redundant. And a scanner would detect something in the bloodstream.
People who see it happen know that the infected get violated by the hugger, but they don't know what it did other than a hentai reenactment.

[Blade2000Br]

Antitox would make this redundant. And a scanner would detect something in the bloodstream.
People who see it happen know that the infected get violated by the hugger, but they don't know what it did other than a hentai reenactment.

you got violentely face-raped and you don't think this seeks medical attention...?

Never go to the army.

[Crab_Spider]

you got violentely face-raped and you don't think this seeks medical attention...?

Never go to the army.

You wouldn’t know you were faceraped, the facehugger dies and decomposes long before that.

[GoliathTheDespoiler]

you got violentely face-raped and you don't think this seeks medical attention...?

Never go to the army.

The log is all that the marines see.

"Falls limp after violating their face". I'd wager anyone who would see tbat would think "well its dead so it probably failed at whatever"

[Blade2000Br]

You wouldn’t know you were faceraped, the facehugger dies and decomposes long before that.

but you saw the thing leaping...into your face...

I mean, even on aliens, a marine that got faceraped knew he would burst so...yeah.

The log is all that the marines see.

"Falls limp after violating their face". I'd wager anyone who would see tbat would think "well its dead so it probably failed at whatever"

if I was besides a guy that got literally faceraped by a thing, saw him uncounscious and the thing after a few seconds, would instantly think "Holy shit, this guy needs medical attention ASAP or mgiht die to space aids!"

being real though, I would not stand and watch a guy being faceraped and then be like "ah, he's ok. just fell unconscious after being attacked and raped by a a crab alien."

[Tidomann]

Get bit by dog- you'd probably seek help to check for rabies.

Get knocked unconscious? You'd probably walk of shame to get checked up as well

[4thsurviver]

but you saw the thing leaping...into your face...

I mean, even on aliens, a marine that got faceraped knew he would burst so...yeah.


if I was besides a guy that got literally faceraped by a thing, saw him uncounscious and the thing after a few seconds, would instantly think "Holy shit, this guy needs medical attention ASAP or mgiht die to space aids!"

being real though, I would not stand and watch a guy being faceraped and then be like "ah, he's ok. just fell unconscious after being attacked and raped by a a crab alien."

In Aliens the marines knew the life cycle of the Xenomorphs from Ripley's report I believe.

I think it depends on when you get knocked out by the face hugger. Is it when it whips into your face, when it chokes you with its tail or when it sticks the tube down your throat? In terms of space aids or disease you could argue that with any contact you have with any of the xenos, they are slashing you up and getting their blood in your wounds or sending mysterious gas clouds your way. The mission is just one big bio hazard really. So often nothing less than a missing limb will get you excused from the battlefield I think going up the ship because a crab hit you in the face is a bit excessive if you don't have a witness telling you what happened.

Normally when I get hugged I try to just shrug it off and make some hints at it and see what people have to say about it. If no one gives me concrete information I'll head back to a secure area and bitch and moan about my symptoms and try and cause a scene. That way when I burst I hope someone is paying attention and can put some pieces together.

[JennerH]

What I did once as a medic is when a marine got crabbed, I asked if she gave consent. She said no, so I told her to evac on account of being a rape victim. Probably saved her life

[GoliathTheDespoiler]

What I did once as a medic is when a marine got crabbed, I asked if she gave consent. She said no, so I told her to evac on account of being a rape victim. Probably saved her life

If she said yes, would that be bestiality?

Does she then go to the brig?

[JennerH]

If she said yes, would that be bestiality?

Does she then go to the brig?

We don't judge here in the USCM. As long as your gun is holstered and your hair is regulation length, you can fuck dead bodies for all we care. Just not one of our own