Is xeno rp with survivors fail rp?

[Pictish20]

I think that a place from which this stems is the fact that the xenos are antagonists. They exist as a plot point to impose danger on the Marines and humanity as a whole, and they do so by being the ruthless, ultimate killing machines, which cannot be negotiated with, al a Tyranids. Part of what makes them so fierce is how inhuman they are. They are alien in every way, and their intelligence is effectively incomprehensible to us. In their thought process, all the benefits of a human slave are immediately negated by the waste of a host. By taking survivors as slaves or whatever, the xenos lose that sense of extreme exoticism and alien-unstoppable-force-ness. If you want to be an enemy of the Marines and have compassion, then play on HvH.

[Rataca100]

Yeah, but you cant recreate lusty Xeno made then, can you? :P

[Crab_Spider]

Yeah, but you cant recreate lusty Xeno made then, can you? :P

That story was...

[davidofmk771]

Yeah, but you cant recreate lusty Xeno made then, can you? :P

Of course not. Now, the Lusty Arcturian Maid, however....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YEnoLnq8OZg

[Rataca100]

Of course not. Now, the Lusty Arcturian Maid, however....

Never looked up what one of them is, that sounds horrifying though.

[Szunti]

On one hand xeno lore is that they want to infect or kill everyone. On the other hand it's common sense that every parasite that kill all hosts die with them. You have to choose between nonsense lore and realism. Nonsense works in movies and shooter games. But RP needs a logical universe.

[davidofmk771]

Never looked up what one of them is, that sounds horrifying though.

Well, the only sources on them other than that clip come from puply sci-fi novels and a board game.

On one hand xeno lore is that they want to infect or kill everyone. On the other hand it's common sense that every parasite that kill all hosts die with them. You have to choose between nonsense lore and realism. Nonsense works in movies and shooter games. But RP needs a logical universe.

I really don't think you understand the problem here.

1. Trying to make sense of xeno actions from a human perspective is completely futile.
2. Xenos kill their hosts upon infecting them as part of their hatching process.
3. The xenos aren't exactly super-genius beings because the queen can figure out how a computer console works.

The xenos are not rational like humans, they do not have ego's and they have no desire to continue living that is not based purely on survival. There is no xeno heaven, hell, karma, or doors of perception. Not any that affect their mindset, at least. Their only reason for living is to produce more of themselves through hosts by ANY means necessary. If you want to say the Mother Queen has advanced forethought (and I suppose you can), just remember one thing:

The xenos are kept around by an even higher power because they are the ultimate prey in the eyes of Yautja society. If they can understand that humans acknowledging them could lead to their extermination, they sure as hell could figure out that these big dreadlocked guys haven't just exterminated them all for some reason.

[JennerH]

Ok, I think we're delving too deep into this. From a purely gameplay perspective, the queen convincing a tallhosts, infected or not, to do their bidding really adds flavor. From a lore perspective, not as much, although earth war showed infected hosts actually trusting the queen. I know from lore the queen is very much capable of plans that involve telepathy, and it's not far fetched for her to do this. Also, xenos are low rp, and it's not like they're doing it to marines. If it doesn't hurt anybody then there's no issue

[Robotic Potato]

Personally the thing that puts a bad taste into my mouth is the most is for some reason Queens wanting to take human pets/slaves.

From an RP stance it makes no sense, from a gameplay stances it also makes little sense, you're a highly advanced killing machine only focused on reproducing your species it's pretty much all you know or care about. If you want to 'RP' with survivors you can always torment and spook them and when I say that I don't mean doing some weird SAW like shit because it would be funny.

[davidofmk771]

I honestly like that more than the round-interrupting negotiations nonsense. Gives me lots of opportunities to escape after getting captured.

[solidfury7]

The only time Xenos should really spare humans is if they are immediately more useful alive than dead.

The end goal will be to infect them sooner or later.

[JennerH]

The only time Xenos should really spare humans is if they are immediately more useful alive than dead.

The end goal will be to infect them sooner or later.

That's almost always the case. If they can't do something with me they tend to just infect me and call it good

[Rataca100]

Extension of above, it would have to be the queen allowing them to live etc.

I will get back to you when i try "operation be cute" to escape execution by the marines.

[Steelpoint]

Most xeno on human RP that is not the researcher doing this...



...is usually bad. Xenomorphs interactions with captured or soon to be captured Humans are near non-existent except for ensuring they remain secured.

[Heckenshutze]

Ok, I think we're delving too deep into this. From a purely gameplay perspective, the queen convincing a tallhosts, infected or not, to do their bidding really adds flavor. From a lore perspective, not as much, although earth war showed infected hosts actually trusting the queen. I know from lore the queen is very much capable of plans that involve telepathy, and it's not far fetched for her to do this. Also, xenos are low rp, and it's not like they're doing it to marines. If it doesn't hurt anybody then there's no issue

It is a damn issue.

[manezinho]

To answer the topic question: Yes. If it's not already infected, why are you trying to RP with it? Just infect it already. Even then, don't go all hippie mode and dance with the dude/woman. You're a xeno.