Update Discussion thread (14FEB18)

[BluntForce420]

Also, there is something sneaky. Injectors in first-aid pouches now have 15 units, so don't OD yourself.

This is fine, then, since for the most part people only vended like 5 pouches to get enough 5u injectors to match

the difference is like 15u (one injector) vs. 20u (four injectors) so it evens out

[Casany]

To copy them we would have to have played there and know what they do. I haven't and doubt Phil has, how can we when their server is up a few hours a month?

Wow, diss. Nah they're a cool place, and they're up about 16-24 rounds a month

[immaspaceninja]

There is a free stack of metal and plasteel for each team of engineers, I feel like this aliviates, not like they can carry heaps more without sacrificing other stuff anyway.

25 metal and 10 plasteel, not stacks.

Before the update, if I started, I could fit everything valuable from the prep along with 3 rifle mags in my webbing, armor, satchel and pouches. Right now my bag is almost empty most of the time and I always have a free slot in my armor, so no, engies dont have to sacrifice anything.

Mind that in talking about lowpop.

[zoboomafoo]

So huggers thrown from carriers actually do what they are supposed to now. Learned that one the hard way.

[phil235]

Legit they just copied from Mercdonalds

Just wanted to concur with spookydonut: no, we haven't copied anything, I've never played on this server.


Also, if engi supplies are too low on lowpop, we might increase the static amount of metal in the tools vendor.

[MattAtlas]

That's a bit harsh, isn't it ?
So basically we have to rely on medics even more now, since first-aid injectors did most of the work.

You can take 2 first aid pouches though, the option isn't greyed out for me as a spec.

[immaspaceninja]

Also, if engi supplies are too low on lowpop, we might increase the static amount of metal in the tools vendor.

Might be a solution as well.
Claymores need love tho. I think putting a box of claymores in that vendor is a good idea too, because you wont see engies pick claymores on lowpop otherwise 99% of the time.

[BillyBoBBizWorth]

Looks like the spare powerpack as a SG has become available in their vendor for a high price, so thats still a option now which is nice.Looks like you must go to your nearest REQ outlet to get it refilled though.

As a medic, it has the feel and approach now that your a "one use" medic(could be the intention), as you cant refill any of your injectors (that arent painstop and firstaid ones VIA the nanomeds) and as of now you would have to ask medical staff(which are usually quite busy) for some from the medbay vendors, so its another line of waiting like at the REQ line.Does REQ even have medical injectors and/or able to order them?

Thats just for your injectors, for all the other supplies will have to be sourced elsewhere as well.

I tried to see if i could use my expended injectors to refill the vendors in your squad prep room and get the points back to get some more out, but it didnt work.

[Steelpoint]

Likely a coincidence the new vendor mechanics are similar in execution to the CorpMerc server.

My main issue with the vendor update, is i feel the Medics got the short end of the stick. I constantly feel I'm lacking enough equipment to get the job done. The lack of splints, and the expense to buy more, is a major impairment, and I feel that Adv First Aid kits are too expensive. Also I feel the SMG Mags are a honeypot for new players to waste their points into, the Shotgun is the premium Medic weapon, but that's another separate balance issue.

A small buff I feel of lowering the cost of splints, and granting an extra Adv First Aid Kit right off the bat, would go a long way I feel. Lowering the cost of other meds like splints and pill bottles would help. Also I think buying autoinjectors should give you a bundle of them instead of a single injector, otherwise its a waste in comparison to a pill bottle.

[spookydonut]

Medics should take mostly pills, you'll be able to stay useful for 2+ hours using pills. Also since this change I've had no problems getting resupplied by asking doctors on med radio to put together a care package.

[Pogo92]

Medics should take mostly pills, you'll be able to stay useful for 2+ hours using pills. Also since this change I've had no problems getting resupplied by asking doctors on med radio to put together a care package.

Not to mention many maps you can get a Med Vendor planetside with a little bit of grunt and engineer work, making resupplying a non-issue.

Overall I like the new vendor changes, though maybe the engineer point value can be tweaked a bit. I played a bit during low-pop yesterday and felt fairly gimped.

I will also say this vendor stuff can definitely be expanded upon to add more flexibility to all marine prep and also alleviate some of the pre-briefing Req issues during high-pop. Things like Webbing, Grenades, and AP mags could be made available to all marines for a very high-point cost or a "pick one" option.

[BillyBoBBizWorth]

Medics should take mostly pills, you'll be able to stay useful for 2+ hours using pills. Also since this change I've had no problems getting resupplied by asking doctors on med radio to put together a care package.

Fair points, noted.

[Heckenshutze]

I think its pretty cool you can take the dog tags (without taking the ID itself) of dead marines and add them to the memorial in the garden so their names appear in the slab.

[Nickvr628]

The memorial should log the list of every marine that dies across rounds, it would be a proper memorial walk then.

[Cry of Wolves]

The memorial should log the list of every marine that dies across rounds, it would be a proper memorial walk then.

then start collecting dog tags and putting them on it.

[TheMaskedMan2]

I haven't seen any dog tags on the Memorial for days.

[Steelpoint]

Its a bit of a hassall, perhaps allow dog tags to stack so you can have five or ten dog tags occupying the same inventory slot.

[Hoodedhero]

Its a bit of a hassall, perhaps allow dog tags to stack so you can have five or ten dog tags occupying the same inventory slot.

You can do that, click on a tag with another tag.

[Steelpoint]

Well, good to know.

It's still a hassle to take em back to the Almayer, it kinda comes down to you doing it if you are forced back to the Almayer and you survive to do it.

[Sulaboy]

Well, good to know.

It's still a hassle to take em back to the Almayer, it kinda comes down to you doing it if you are forced back to the Almayer and you survive to do it.

The easier it is to do, the less the gesture is worth.

[kooarbiter]

got hit by the new explosive OB and it insta cucked 4 beanos, most of us were mature T2 and I was a mature defender, not even the crushers survived, and we had no warning, just our games freezing a couple seconds then ded

[Gnorse]

got hit by the new explosive OB and it insta cucked 4 beanos, most of us were mature T2 and I was a mature defender, not even the crushers survived, and we had no warning, just our games freezing a couple seconds then ded

Is the big ol' "BEEP BEEP BEEP" OB sound gone or ... ?

[Cry of Wolves]

got hit by the new explosive OB and it insta cucked 4 beanos, most of us were mature T2 and I was a mature defender, not even the crushers survived, and we had no warning, just our games freezing a couple seconds then ded

Sounds like a great OB. Also, I believe the lack of an audio warning is a bug.

[Dolth]

Okay. Get ready I am about to say something nice about devs, which is rare from me.

The vendor update -IS- great in my opinion as it allows you to customize even more your loadout. Got 10 mines as engi while others build FOB. Gor 2 OB as QRF SL to provide hard support, etc etc. It's great, really.

(I still whine about the QF EB removal and dual wielding.)

[Gnorse]

-snip-

Imho, the vendor update is a great buff for medics/engineers/specialists/SLs, even smartgunners.
Slight nerf to PFCs though.

But yeah, devs did great on that one. OB system is pretty sick as well.