stupid RO not giving me my BC damn you!
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Re: stupid RO not giving me my BC damn you!
The main reason RO's tell their crew to give the BC's to Smartgunners is that they are the only weapon on the ground that's guaranteed not to kill a marine unless the wielder is a high level retard.
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Re: stupid RO not giving me my BC damn you!
I don't like barrel chargers because they reduce your rate of fire.
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Re: stupid RO not giving me my BC damn you!
BFA BC smartgun straight up MURDERS in close quarters. It's especially perfect for the smartgunner on FOB duty to keep those pesky T2's from picking at the barricades. However;
There are people who suggest burstfiring an unmodified smartgun is somehow a bad thing.
Focus on that keyword unmodified and consider that means they think a smartgun with either attachment that reduces burstfire accuracy and effectiveness is somehow better to burstfire than maximum-accuracy unmodified smartgun. That does not make sense
On-topic, didn't we just have an update recently that increased requisition's vendor stock? I've been noticing req has been a bit more generous about giving out attachments at least.
There are people who suggest burstfiring an unmodified smartgun is somehow a bad thing.
Focus on that keyword unmodified and consider that means they think a smartgun with either attachment that reduces burstfire accuracy and effectiveness is somehow better to burstfire than maximum-accuracy unmodified smartgun. That does not make sense
On-topic, didn't we just have an update recently that increased requisition's vendor stock? I've been noticing req has been a bit more generous about giving out attachments at least.
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Re: stupid RO not giving me my BC damn you!
They have. I had 8 barrel chargers the valentine's round, so once the smarties had their pick, I opened it up to privates et al.
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Re: stupid RO not giving me my BC damn you!
Attachment and general vendor stock has been increased across the board (at the cost of M41A incendary ammunition and special ammo for the M4A2). You also get more things like grenade boxes and webbing.
M41A extended magazines are a lot more common in the vendor, you start with an equal number of those and AP magazines.
M41A extended magazines are a lot more common in the vendor, you start with an equal number of those and AP magazines.
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^ Good to know, thank you.
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Re: stupid RO not giving me my BC damn you!
Curse you RO for not unga'ing my dunga.
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But I dooooooooo.
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Re: stupid RO not giving me my BC damn you!
You're too nice Rain. I just go with the normal "PFCs only get 2 weapon attachments, and they don't get incen anything" and the "BCs are for SGs"
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Re: stupid RO not giving me my BC damn you!
We didnt have an ammo box and I didnt want to spend the points ;_;
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Re: stupid RO not giving me my BC damn you!
unforgivableValGarilovich wrote: ↑26 Feb 2018, 20:36We didnt have an ammo box and I didnt want to spend the points ;_;
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Re: stupid RO not giving me my BC damn you!
Barrel chargers to privates is a nightmare for medics. FF is bad enough from standard rifles.
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Re: stupid RO not giving me my BC damn you!
There's almost no reason to deny BCs to PFCs as REQ starts with more. BC makes a huge difference especially when loaded with AP and on burst fire on a M41, guaranteed to melt benos. Hell, not even SLs should use BCs, they're meant to be leading not going guns blazing like a madman.
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Re: stupid RO not giving me my BC damn you!
This' a bad mindset.
In my eyes, if CAS, OBs, or Mortars aren't available/practical to use, the SL should be pushing the line alongside his men, and taking advantage of Issue-Order as it becomes available. He's an element/squad leader, not an overwatch officer. He carries a gun and yells louder than everyone else in his squad, thus he should be carrying (and of course shooting) his gun, and yelling orders.
Seeing my SL fighting usually makes me want to come up alongside him, and get fighting too.
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Re: stupid RO not giving me my BC damn you!
Specialists don't need BCs because they should be using their gun.
SLs don't need BCs because they should be leading.
Engis/meds don't need BCs because they should be doing their fucking jobs.
That leaves SGs and Privates*. These are the ones you should be handing BCs to, imo.
*does not apply if the PFC in question is a crewie.
SLs don't need BCs because they should be leading.
Engis/meds don't need BCs because they should be doing their fucking jobs.
That leaves SGs and Privates*. These are the ones you should be handing BCs to, imo.
*does not apply if the PFC in question is a crewie.
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Re: stupid RO not giving me my BC damn you!
Just saying, as RO.
BC shouldn't be handed to every PFC asking for it.
There is no whitelist for Spec, but RO can whitelist the cool shits.
Any baldie can take one of the 4 slots that the whole platoon needs ? Yep, but they won't be able to take one of my BCs.
The BCs, and the good attachments, can be spared in a good amount of it (You can take 2 to 4 QF, and 4 to 6 BCs from the attachments vendors). You just order shitload ot AP, and some good AP boxes.
And start finding the robustos. Then, ask them to have a second robusto, or decent marine. One carry the box. The other cover the carrier. The box refills. And the two will pew pew like badasses.
It works. And it's fun.
Random-baldies do not NEED barrel chargers.
Marines do not NEED attachments. When they know how to play WITHOUT attachments, they accept and take profit the attachments BUFFS.
An attachment is not something to prevent you from being a dipshit. It's something making you better when you are already decent, and to suit your playstyle.
As a SL, I prefer the QF EB for its versatility, its pin-point accuracy, ammo conservation and yet ability to suppress or to deal huge amount of damage to T2 and T3 when loaded with AP.
Give me 4 AP mags, one AP box, and my QF EB, I can lead the squad whereever it needs to be led, while supplying my lads with AP (and supplying Xenos with AP).
BC shouldn't be handed to every PFC asking for it.
There is no whitelist for Spec, but RO can whitelist the cool shits.
Any baldie can take one of the 4 slots that the whole platoon needs ? Yep, but they won't be able to take one of my BCs.
The BCs, and the good attachments, can be spared in a good amount of it (You can take 2 to 4 QF, and 4 to 6 BCs from the attachments vendors). You just order shitload ot AP, and some good AP boxes.
And start finding the robustos. Then, ask them to have a second robusto, or decent marine. One carry the box. The other cover the carrier. The box refills. And the two will pew pew like badasses.
It works. And it's fun.
Random-baldies do not NEED barrel chargers.
Marines do not NEED attachments. When they know how to play WITHOUT attachments, they accept and take profit the attachments BUFFS.
An attachment is not something to prevent you from being a dipshit. It's something making you better when you are already decent, and to suit your playstyle.
As a SL, I prefer the QF EB for its versatility, its pin-point accuracy, ammo conservation and yet ability to suppress or to deal huge amount of damage to T2 and T3 when loaded with AP.
Give me 4 AP mags, one AP box, and my QF EB, I can lead the squad whereever it needs to be led, while supplying my lads with AP (and supplying Xenos with AP).
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Re: stupid RO not giving me my BC damn you!
You can give all of the goodies to people that you know will use it well, sure, or you can just sprinkle the goodies all over and give everyone a few each. Personally, I don't see a problem handing out BC to anyone who asks.
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Re: stupid RO not giving me my BC damn you!
Medic mains are going to hate you so much.
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Re: stupid RO not giving me my BC damn you!
Bruh what. How is BC worste than a BFA and how is a BFA acceptable in any situation with a smartgun?!
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Re: stupid RO not giving me my BC damn you!
It'll probably get you killed, but when using BFA and a BC on a smartgun, one burst in close range is going to one-shot most xenos if all shots hit.
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Re: stupid RO not giving me my BC damn you!
I haven't tried the BFA on the Smartgun in months and months so I totally forget if its trash or not *shrug
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Re: stupid RO not giving me my BC damn you!
its garbage, use standardWinterClould wrote: ↑03 Mar 2018, 23:48I haven't tried the BFA on the Smartgun in months and months so I totally forget if its trash or not *shrug
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Re: stupid RO not giving me my BC damn you!
All attachments in reqs scale with population, the lowest i've seen it is 2 BCs
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Re: stupid RO not giving me my BC damn you!
Yeah, we were stuck on the ground at Prison. We critted it as a group and I blasted it.
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You can give a smartgun to every marine, and they would still find a way to FF with it.
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Re: stupid RO not giving me my BC damn you!
HPR with rds/grip/BC on burst is pretty scary. I've taken marines arms off with it before.WinterClould wrote: ↑15 Feb 2018, 13:34M4RA can't take a BC. The HPR can and it can kinda works, not totally sure though. Gun's kinda slow enough as is.
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