Infected predators attacking themself when captured.

[Mvp777]

Was spectating a round earlier and 2 predators got captured and infected, supposedly 1 of them started attacking themself which contributed to them later dying.

From an RP/fairness aspect what is your opinion on Predators actively attacking themself when captured?

Is it Justified? BadRP? Allowed? Distasteful but acceptable?

[AccointNaim]

Its better to die, than to die and give birth to an abomination, better than dying by marines and being captured, worse than blowing yourself up.

[manezinho]

Sounds like an attempt at restoring honor, like the self destruct. Though I don't know for sure.

[TehSpoderman]

Sounds valid. I believe getting infected is a extremely dishonorable thing to happen to a pred so he basically just tried to commit sudoku.

[edda]

If SD while infected is allowed, why would attacking oneself while infected not be?

[TheMaskedMan2]

It's no different from killing yourself as a Marine. Sounds completely fine to me.

[Heckenshutze]

Totally legit. As predator, you cannot allow an abomination to burst. Abominations are above the Code, meaning that everything must be done to prevent / end them

[Wubs4Scrubs]

Essentially what Heckenshutze said, as far as I know when an abomination is involved the preds do anything possible to prevent it. If that means committing suicide, so be it as to let it come into existence would bring far more dishonor.

[Mvp777]

It personally appears to be Game-wise distasteful for the aliens, due to the sheer difficulty of actually getting a predator infected and contained only for it to just stab itself to death. Yet it makes sense from a Lore/RP sense.

[Renomaki]

To be infected is considered one of the greatest forms of dishonor to a Yautja. You can't even get it removed, because the mere fact that you allowed a serpent to infect you will bring shame to your family and your clan.

Better to die and wipe away the mark then to let it be marked in stone.

[Solarmare]

Abominations must not occur, so everything is allowed to stop them more or less.

[Sulaboy]

While we are at it should we lay down some reasonings for why humans can kill themselves when infected? In the movies it seems that the growth of a chestburster is very painful, and the more info known about the aliens lets the marines know that it will kill them. My criteria for suicide in a nest as marine is, I must know why the xenomorphs capture humans and understand they are being used as hosts for their reproduction, I must also have a proper weapons, boot knife is abit too barbaric for suicide as stabbing yourself over and over again does not seem normal even in this dire situation. I also make sure that the firearm or grenade would do the majority of damage to my chest. If I know the larva is within my chest it makes more sense for me to aim at it when the real goal is to try and kill it.

[x31stOverlord]

Abominations must not be allowed to spawn through any means necessary. Usually by bracer SD. If unavailable (typically because a ravager has taken off the arm) well more reason to try to die to:

A) Not allow the dishonour of being infected and spawning an Abomination.

B) Allow the technology to possibly fall into hands of non Yautja

And

C) If saved somehow (despite likely being killed any Yautja who finds them) the Yautja just lost an arm and will be subject to slavery and not able to hunt.

So in any situation death is the preferable alternative to communism dishonour and living

[Heckenshutze]

While we are at it should we lay down some reasonings for why humans can kill themselves when infected? In the movies it seems that the growth of a chestburster is very painful, and the more info known about the aliens lets the marines know that it will kill them. My criteria for suicide in a nest as marine is, I must know why the xenomorphs capture humans and understand they are being used as hosts for their reproduction, I must also have a proper weapons, boot knife is abit too barbaric for suicide as stabbing yourself over and over again does not seem normal even in this dire situation. I also make sure that the firearm or grenade would do the majority of damage to my chest. If I know the larva is within my chest it makes more sense for me to aim at it when the real goal is to try and kill it.

Marines can suicide when captured, if they can.

[Sulaboy]

Marines can suicide when captured, if they can.

Are there no RP rules about knowing what's going to happen to them? I mean I'm fine with being able to suicide when captured, but it's too easy sometimes. Unless that sentinel is really on your case it is easy to kill yourself if you are put into one of those resin cell nests. You have enough time before they can open the door. Also a word to Xenos and drones, resin cages are not good for nesting non SSD hosts, make a proper nesting room with space and just keep multiple sentinels in there, it makes it much easier to make sure hosts don't kill themselves if you don't build resin doors.

[Heckenshutze]

Are there no RP rules about knowing what's going to happen to them? I mean I'm fine with being able to suicide when captured, but it's too easy sometimes. Unless that sentinel is really on your case it is easy to kill yourself if you are put into one of those resin cell nests. You have enough time before they can open the door. Also a word to Xenos and drones, resin cages are not good for nesting non SSD hosts, make a proper nesting room with space and just keep multiple sentinels in there, it makes it much easier to make sure hosts don't kill themselves if you don't build resin doors.

Well, I, as a human being, afte seing the corpses of the colonists or the lack of it, and after being dragged to the bug's nest, my first guess is they would eat me. So yeah, better a bullet in my head than eaten alive.

Besides, yeah, from a rule perspective, you can suicide as soon you're captured. If you manage to do it, it's the Xeno's fault for being awfully bad and dumb.

[jalen earl]

Predator harakiri

[jalen earl]

https://youtu.be/bfPhIe5F_68

[AverageSpitter]

Got to admit i giggled at the thought of a predator just stabbing itself to death instead of SD like it's expected

However, Im pretty sure a predator isn't allowed to SD while infected, correct me if wrong

[x31stOverlord]

Got to admit i giggled at the thought of a predator just stabbing itself to death instead of SD like it's expected

However, Im pretty sure a predator isn't allowed to SD while infected, correct me if wrong

Preds are 100% allowed to SD whilst infected.

Abominations are excepted from any and all honour rules, they are to be exterminated at whatever cost and if a pred knows he is infected he should SD or kill himself to prevent the spawn of the Abomination and remove the stain on his and his clans honour

[Symbiosis]

Preds are 100% allowed to SD whilst infected.

Abominations are excepted from any and all honour rules, they are to be exterminated at whatever cost and if a pred knows he is infected he should SD or kill himself to prevent the spawn of the Abomination and remove the stain on his and his clans honour

No. They can't. It was disabled unless recently changed again.

As for them attacking themselves? Scummy IMO. Only reason they're ABLE to do so is the tackle changes that Predators had recently. It's goofy that 5 Xenos can't keep a Predator tackled. When I play Queen I try to keep my hive close because there's no real reason to mess with Predators right now. Between the trap change and tackle change the only way to take a Pred is mob it and body block it. Capturing would require 2 arms removed TBH. Then just stick it in a resin wall nest.

[Mvp777]

I vaguely recall hearing that a predator can ATTEMPT to activate SD when infected? or was it when actually captured/handcuffed? One or the other; I've never actually seen an infected predator detonate so its probably the latter rather than the former.

[x31stOverlord]

No. They can't. It was disabled unless recently changed again.

As for them attacking themselves? Scummy IMO. Only reason they're ABLE to do so is the tackle changes that Predators had recently. It's goofy that 5 Xenos can't keep a Predator tackled. When I play Queen I try to keep my hive close because there's no real reason to mess with Predators right now. Between the trap change and tackle change the only way to take a Pred is mob it and body block it. Capturing would require 2 arms removed TBH. Then just stick it in a resin wall nest.

Ah, then I am mistaken, though I was speaking more from a lore point of view.

Still confusing as to why they wouldnt be able to initiate SD if they've been infected *shrug*

[Symbiosis]

Ah, then I am mistaken, though I was speaking more from a lore point of view.

Still confusing as to why they wouldnt be able to initiate SD if they've been infected *shrug*

Gameplay. An infected Predator could be held down by a Xeno, especially two or even a single T3 with ease. But gameplay restricts that.

Gameplay restricts the SD for that reason.

[AverageSpitter]

Ah, then I am mistaken, though I was speaking more from a lore point of view.

Still confusing as to why they wouldnt be able to initiate SD if they've been infected *shrug*

It's bc preds are pro-choice :^)