Could a human kill a Xenomorph with melee weapons?

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Re: Could a human kill a Xenomorph with melee weapons?

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Post by YungCuz » 20 Mar 2018, 09:35

Clearly this means all marines should get katanas instead of combat knives standard now.
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Machete vs Katana, who will win!?
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Re: Could a human kill a Xenomorph with melee weapons?

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[Suggestion] Change the M5 Nightraider knife for the M10 Moonkiller katana
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Heckenshutze wrote:
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[Suggestion] Change the M5 Nightraider knife for the M10 Moonkiller katana
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Re: Could a human kill a Xenomorph with melee weapons?

Post by Aceluke123 » 20 Mar 2018, 17:34

I don't think a human could beat a xenomorph with the aspect of their acid blood. Gotta avoid that shit or you will definitely die after it is killed.

Overall its definitely possible, question is. Does dying after from the wounds count as a win?
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Re: Could a human kill a Xenomorph with melee weapons?

Post by Slywater » 20 Mar 2018, 17:50

Aceluke123 wrote:
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I don't think a human could beat a xenomorph with the aspect of their acid blood. Gotta avoid that shit or you will definitely die after it is killed.

Overall its definitely possible, question is. Does dying after from the wounds count as a win?
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Not gonna lie, I've never seen it happen before, as xenos excel at melee. We have guns for a reason kids...
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Re: Could a human kill a Xenomorph with melee weapons?

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Pretty sure we have an answer
I'll just leave this here

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Re: Could a human kill a Xenomorph with melee weapons?

Post by KingPhilipIII » 24 Mar 2018, 11:42

I doubt either a spear or a sword would work, for several different reasons both inherent to the weapons and due to beno physiology.

1. A spear is a piercing weapon. Wielded by a strong enough individual and well made enough, it could pierce a xeno's exoskeleton and cause damage. The problem is, when you're dealing with a thrusting weapon and a creature that has been established to be able to survive incredible amounts of trauma(Including having a large amount of it's head blown off) it's difficult to imagine you could deal enough damage before the blood or the angry xeno got you.

2. A sword, as we've already established is not as effective a killing weapon as Hollywood would have you believe. Even in times where they were prevalent as weapons few people died a quick death from swords. Normally you bled out on the battlefield, in too much pain to move, until you were trampled or rescued and later succumbed to an infection. I'm doubtful any but the strongest people armed with a very carefully made sword would be even able to cut through the exoskeleton, but it is possible, but you'd quickly face issues with the acid. You would however be more capable of killing it with fewer strokes from a sword than thrusts with a spear though.
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Re: Could a human kill a Xenomorph with melee weapons?

Post by WinterClould » 24 Mar 2018, 12:36

As established by the picture I posted above, swinging a sword at a xeno is a quick trip to acid hell. Attempting to spear a xeno would also not work well for you. You'd stab it, but then unlike a Human the xeno will not stop coming at you. It will run itself along the length of your spear melting it as it does, then it'll claw your ass to death.

Lucky enough for us both situations you'd at least trade with the xeno. While their acid will fuck a lad up its also just as much a weakness for them (In some (most?) lores). One bleeding wound will melt a xeno from the inside out since their outer hide isn't acid proof like their inside are. Unless xenos have a medic that can seal their bleeding wounds they'll slowly dissolve since it's not like a wound gushing acid blood is exactly going to clot as it melts the xenos hide.

Unless you hit a xeno with a big enough strike that they can't get up they're going to just keep coming at you, and if you did that you've prolly got acid on you now. They don't feel pain, and they don't feel fear unless it's fire or someone they recognize as a total asskicker (Like Ripply) so basically, your fucked.

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Re: Could a human kill a Xenomorph with melee weapons?

Post by KingPhilipIII » 24 Mar 2018, 15:50

Wait, where in their lore is it stated that their exterior is not tolerant of their own acid?
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Re: Could a human kill a Xenomorph with melee weapons?

Post by WinterClould » 24 Mar 2018, 16:43

KingPhilipIII wrote:
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Wait, where in their lore is it stated that their exterior is not tolerant of their own acid?
Shit now you got me tripping. I once saw somewhere that their bodies melt themselves after they're killed. No clue where though.
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Re: Could a human kill a Xenomorph with melee weapons?

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Shit now you got me tripping. I once saw somewhere that their bodies melt themselves after they're killed. No clue where though.
They probably just melt after death, like face huggers.
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Re: Could a human kill a Xenomorph with melee weapons?

Post by KingPhilipIII » 24 Mar 2018, 18:05

Looking at the wiki, apparently xenomorph chitin is resistant to the acid, even after removal from the xenomorph or the creature's death.
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Re: Could a human kill a Xenomorph with melee weapons?

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KingPhilipIII wrote:
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Looking at the wiki, apparently xenomorph chitin is resistant to the acid, even after removal from the xenomorph or the creature's death.
I also looked it up on the wiki and seem to totally somehow completely made it up. Maybe I fooled myself with the whole facehuggers melting themselves thing.
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Re: Could a human kill a Xenomorph with melee weapons?

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KingPhilipIII wrote:
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Looking at the wiki, apparently xenomorph chitin is resistant to the acid, even after removal from the xenomorph or the creature's death.
Oh yeah? Then explain this. /s
https://youtu.be/eo0XNBbx9F8

Yeah the actual xenomorphs probably don't melt from their own blood, that would be a very bad trait to have. They do have very high blood pressure that causes their acid blood to spray out when a wound is made, which is a helpful trait.
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Re: Could a human kill a Xenomorph with melee weapons?

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Sulaboy wrote:
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Oh yeah? Then explain this. /s
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Yeah the actual xenomorphs probably don't melt from their own blood, that would be a very bad trait to have. They do have very high blood pressure that causes their acid blood to spray out when a wound is made, which is a helpful trait.
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Re: Could a human kill a Xenomorph with melee weapons?

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Sulaboy wrote:
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Oh yeah? Then explain this. /s
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Well with evidence like that, I guess I might as well just give up.
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Re: Could a human kill a Xenomorph with melee weapons?

Post by ManyBones » 11 May 2018, 21:40

Although Alien vs Predator its not very good canon, there a predator makes a shield with the chitin of a xeno's head and gives it to the protagonist. It's resistant to acid, yes

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Re: Could a human kill a Xenomorph with melee weapons?

Post by Gut_TC » 12 May 2018, 02:47

Yuuup. It's possible. Just needed some luck and the type of Xeno one is fighting with. And the melee type you are using.

Although you'd usually go crit afterwards should you succeeded.
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Re: Could a human kill a Xenomorph with melee weapons?

Post by Casany » 12 May 2018, 11:43

Well from the movies we found out in Alien that the acid blood is neutralized on contact with air quite quickly. So fighting an alien in space would just mean the acid is always harmful, but fighting in any place with an atmosphere with oxygen could neutralize the acid quickly. Yeah it’d burn and hurt but if you were just splashed slightly it would probably not get through the first layer of skin. Hicks survived with only minor burns, the only reason he was taken out was because he was overexerted and the alien literally exploded when he shot it.

In my opinion if you stab a xeno and are splashed with acid you wouldn’t die, probably just get some minor or major burns.

Drake literally only died because he burned an alien causing it to explode all it’s acid on him, so.
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Casany wrote:
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Well from the movies we found out in Alien that the acid blood is neutralized on contact with air quite quickly.
What about the scene when they first arrive on the colony and they find that blood pool that went through like multiple floors? Maybe there was supposed to be a xeno body lying there so it continually bled out and eventually fell through all the levels but the hole didn't seem that big.
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What about the scene when they first arrive on the colony and they find that blood pool that went through like multiple floors? Maybe there was supposed to be a xeno body lying there so it continually bled out and eventually fell through all the levels but the hole didn't seem that big.
In Alien Ash says the blood oxidizes quickly when out of the body. My guess is the use of explosives cause the xenos in question to explode acid everywhere, so it took longer for it all to oxidize because there was so much of it. If it was just a drop it wouldn’t probably have gone that far
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Re: Could a human kill a Xenomorph with melee weapons?

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WinterClould wrote:
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So this is what happens when you melee a xeno

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Safe to say it is against your best interests.

First. Yes they could kill a xeno with a melee weapon but not lose a limb...? Debatable.

Second...what's up with that uniform? He an officer or something of the USCM?
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Re: Could a human kill a Xenomorph with melee weapons?

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Vispain wrote:
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First. Yes they could kill a xeno with a melee weapon but not lose a limb...? Debatable.

Second...what's up with that uniform? He an officer or something of the USCM?
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