Could a human kill a Xenomorph with melee weapons?

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Could a human kill a Xenomorph with melee weapons?

Post by Heckenshutze » 13 Mar 2018, 14:39

Nothing much to say, debate, give your reasons.


I'd say yes, and my arguments are solely based in the LORE (Movies, games and such).

Humans according to the lore are capable of kicking a xeno away from themselves (Corporal Winter)

Pin down a xeno with their leg to shoot him (Vasquez)

And stab them with a spear (Lex)


I do accept the fact that a human would likely die 2/3 of the times to acid or another type of wound, so most of the times the human COULD kill the xeno but die in the process, still, I'd put the balance at 70% for xeno and 30% for human.

Depends on the human himself, the circunstances and the weapon he's wielding. (A short knife would likely get him killed without doing shit to the xeno)

A full armored crusader with a bastard sword and shield could kill a xeno? Yes. And any armored-medieval-trained human would. Even a tribal with a spear. Despite the fact xenos are like bugs, with chitin and exoesqueleton they are not inmune to get slashed and stabbed by a sharp blade/point; still, the tricky factor here is the human would need more than 1 weapon or make an one-hit kill attack, since the acid blood of the Xeno would melt his blade/spear/sword/axe to goo in seconds.
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Re: Could a human kill a Xenomorph with melee weapons?

Post by Cognito » 13 Mar 2018, 14:46

https://youtu.be/eNr0WXQ3Ho4?t=6s

With my harsh memory of the l o r e™ I'd wager so.
However I'd say it would have to be a really pointy stick.
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Re: Could a human kill a Xenomorph with melee weapons?

Post by Thatnewguy1 » 13 Mar 2018, 14:47

<Runs xenomorph through with spear <gets splattered with acid <Both die

Being honest though, xenos are only muscle, meaning a good slice with a blade, should it pass the initial carapace, should go right through it with one clean swipe. but the way a xenomorph moves when it fights means stabby weapons would work best, which would lead to the user get burned pretty bad
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Re: Could a human kill a Xenomorph with melee weapons?

Post by Musely » 13 Mar 2018, 14:56

Didn't some samurai-wannabe kill a Predator with a Katana? Predator's kill Xenos, so yeah why not.

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Re: Could a human kill a Xenomorph with melee weapons?

Post by Heckenshutze » 13 Mar 2018, 14:59

Well, blades have better AP than a bullet since they're harder, sharper and made of better material (don't shatter to bones or armored vests) and can pierce armor and other alloys.

Yes, if the human with the spear rams through the xeno like tribals do with lions he'll likely get burnt to a crisp since the acid would fall all on him, but what if the kill was made by decapitation in one,clean slash like in AvP? the acid wouldn't splash the human.

Also, how mortal could be the acid splat? Hicks got splattered in the face and survived. I think it would need a very generous spray of acid to kill a human, not a single splash.
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Re: Could a human kill a Xenomorph with melee weapons?

Post by RobBrown4PM » 13 Mar 2018, 15:46

Musely wrote:
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Didn't some samurai-wannabe kill a Predator with a Katana? Predator's kill Xenos, so yeah why not.
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Re: Could a human kill a Xenomorph with melee weapons?

Post by Jonesome » 13 Mar 2018, 18:43

Depends which lore, in some cases an alien is capable of throwing a fully grown man across a room with ease and incapacitating him, in other cases a person could sit on an alien and shoot it in the head. Everyone has different interpretations of xeno strength. Although in my mind, they are instant killing machines and even getting near one would mean immediate death, or worse.
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Re: Could a human kill a Xenomorph with melee weapons?

Post by SecretStamos (Joshuu) » 13 Mar 2018, 22:25

definitely with a katana for sure

not sure about anything else

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Re: Could a human kill a Xenomorph with melee weapons?

Post by WinterClould » 15 Mar 2018, 09:10

So this is what happens when you melee a xeno

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Re: Could a human kill a Xenomorph with melee weapons?

Post by YungCuz » 15 Mar 2018, 09:24

Dude as long as you're sure you can kill it with melee go for it otherwise its normally best to just shoot it until it dies.
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Re: Could a human kill a Xenomorph with melee weapons?

Post by Troika » 15 Mar 2018, 20:08

It happens ingame occasionally but it's rarer than it used to be. That said, don't underestimate a crafty survivor with a fire axe.

Also, I think that if an alien swallows a marine, the marine can use a bayonet to burst out of and gib the alien.
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Post by Rivero » 15 Mar 2018, 22:58

Well we need to use the bayo for something else that clear weeds... Scuad bayo cargue FTW
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Post by zoboomafoo » 16 Mar 2018, 02:04

Trying to melee a non-stunned xeno is like asking to be tackled. Even if it's stunned, think of the acid blood! It hurts a lot.
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Re: Could a human kill a Xenomorph with melee weapons?

Post by kooarbiter » 16 Mar 2018, 03:09

You could use blunt force trauma on the skull without piercing the chitin and exposing blood if the blunt weapon was strong enough
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Re: Could a human kill a Xenomorph with melee weapons?

Post by Youbar » 18 Mar 2018, 04:04

SecretStamos (Joshuu) wrote:
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definitely with a katana for sure

not sure about anything else
Katanas aren't the only weapons with a sharp blade. Even a cleaver could work.
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WinterClould wrote:
15 Mar 2018, 09:10
So this is what happens when you melee a xeno

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Safe to say it is against your best interests.
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Shouldn't acid should be capable to melt through the bone too? I assume they just drew it like that to made it cool, but imagine calcium actually was resistent to molecular acid, and having someone know that and just run around with a bone armor killing them all with melee.

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Re: Could a human kill a Xenomorph with melee weapons?

Post by Mvp777 » 18 Mar 2018, 04:26

Kill with a melee weapon? Yes.

Survive killing it with a melee weapon without debiliating or potentially lethal acid burns? Bit more difficult.

You'd need either acid resistance gear, or clothes/armor that burns slow enough to remove it before it starts eating into your flesh.
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Re: Could a human kill a Xenomorph with melee weapons?

Post by SecretStamos (Joshuu) » 18 Mar 2018, 07:54

Youbar wrote:
18 Mar 2018, 04:04
Katanas aren't the only weapons with a sharp blade. Even a cleaver could work.
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SecretStamos (Joshuu) wrote:
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it's okay, I've met people with desynchronized world views before. I'll try and talk slow so you can understand me

katana cannot be beaten, change my mind

there's a reason all modern special forces soldiers carry them as their primary backup weapon
What about the tacticool knives used by silly germans?
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Re: Could a human kill a Xenomorph with melee weapons?

Post by Sambalu » 18 Mar 2018, 16:31

killing a xeno with a bladed weapon would be easy. The trick is not getting acid all over yourself.

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Post by RobBrown4PM » 18 Mar 2018, 21:15

Also, where there's 1 Xeno, theres probably 50...or 500 more.
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Re: Could a human kill a Xenomorph with melee weapons?

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SecretStamos (Joshuu) wrote:
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there's a reason all modern special forces soldiers carry them as their primary backup weapon
Special Forces do not use katanas. They use combat knives.
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Re: Could a human kill a Xenomorph with melee weapons?

Post by Wubs4Scrubs » 20 Mar 2018, 01:37

Depends on how thick xeno exoskeleton is. A penetration weapon like a bayonet or spear would do it, however slashing with like a sword would only get the person killed. Look up a video of people trying to get through something even as old as chainmail and you'll see how ineffective swords are, if we assume that a xeno is at least as strong as that, then you're probably SOL with melee weapons.
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Re: Could a human kill a Xenomorph with melee weapons?

Post by SecretStamos (Joshuu) » 20 Mar 2018, 08:58

Youbar wrote:
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Special Forces do not use katanas. They use combat knives.
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Re: Could a human kill a Xenomorph with melee weapons?

Post by SecretStamos (Joshuu) » 20 Mar 2018, 08:58

Pretty sure we have an answer

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