What counts as a Victory?

[Lyiat]

One thing I've noticed is people randomly spouting off "MARINE-MAJOR!" or "XENO-MAJOR!" when ascribing victory for a match. I get that these are usually in jest or to be ironic, but I had to stop in think. What actually does constitute as a marine or xeno victory? The destruction of the Almayer doesn't seem like a marine win to me, unless they managed to get a lot of personnel off via evac and killed all the xenos (read: No xenos planetside either).

So what exactly do you guys think? What are the parameters for a xeno, marine, or, say, admin (PMC) win?

[Heckenshutze]

Marine Major: Total xeno genocide.

Xeno Major: Almayer becomes new Hive. No survivors or evac'd humans.

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Marine minor: Defeat the xenos but get themselves killed in the process and the Xenomorphs will stay off the spotlight.

Xeno minor: Kill all the marines but sadly, some survived and escaped, meaning that eventually they'll come and shoot down your new Ship/hive.


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PMC Major: Rescue the CL and gather a specimen for testing and research.

UPP Major: Kill the marines/xenos and took the ship and it's technology.

CLF Major: Hijack the Almayer and use it to liberate other colonies.

[Philby0]

One team wins when the other is wiped out. If the amount of humans or xenos reaches 0, it's over.
SD is considered marine minor, because the xenos can't leave the planet then.

Major and minor just represent how easy it was. If you struggle to win, minor, if you obliterate the other team, major. There's kind of a grey zone in the middle.
Just remember that there's no real victory, only a round end.

See Heck's post for examples

[Skimmy2]

Pizza Major: Survive after delivering the Pinapple and Pepperoni.

The Xeno/Marine Minor/Major are old victory conditions no longer used in game as now we simply end it with a final note.

[x31stOverlord]

CL Major: Single handedly EVAC yourself by using the ERT dropship whilst running away from the Xenos hot on your tail after killing said ERT

[ZaeCathe]

Marine Major: All/some survivors airlifted, and all xenos put six feet under, minimal marine losses.

Xeno Major: Almayer crew wiped out, all survivors wiped out, all marines wiped out, minimal deaths.

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Marine Regular: Some/no survivors airlifted, all xenos dead, some marine losses.

Xeno Regular: Almayer crew wiped out, pods ejected with survivors, some deaths.

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Marine Minor: No survivors airlifted, all xenos dead, moderate/severe marine losses.

Xeno Minor: Almayer crew wiped out, escapees on the pods and the Normandy, moderate/severe deaths.

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Marine Minimal: No survivors airlifted, xenos wiped out on Almayer, severe losses.

Xeno Minimal: Almayer crew wiped out, many survivors on pods and Normandy, severe deaths.

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Draw: SD activated. Even if there are survivors on the Normandy, on the planet, or in the escape pods, it's still a draw.

[Sargeantmuffinman]

An actual marine minor would be - Marines kill the queen, all remaining drones, eggs and possible larva. This means the marines can safely, in large numbers, kill all the remaning xenomorphs and/or capture one for experimentation.

Stalemate - Almayer self-destructs killing all marines and xenos without any eggs left on the planet and the ship, in addition to no survivors leaving the Almayer via the escape pods. This in turn means the events of this situation occuring will repeat until one ship is able to relay the message or win.

Marine/Xeno Major - Complete annihilation of the opposing team. Marines get to go extermination on all these things and come up with ways to better defeat them. Xenos can infest more worlds, spreading the hive.

Xeno minor - They take the ship but there were survivors that either relayed info to High Command/their overlords or they've escaped through the evac pods. Their success hinders on evidence they brought with them.

[Gnorse]

It was a thing during the alpha (aka sulaco days) where the round end screen actually shows the type of victory :
-Marine major : All xenomorphs killed.
-Marine minor : 20 Minutes passed with no queen, thus the hivemind died.
-Planetary Annihilation (Aka SD) : All marines and Xenomorphs dead.
-Xeno minor : Most marines killed. Some escaped via escape shuttles.
-Xeno major : All marines killed. No survivors.

Keep in mind that these were the alpha's victory conditions, so they probably changed a bit.

[Weaselburg]

Marines can get major with all xenos left hiding in vents AND with infected monkies/marines.

[Weaselburg]

And I consider SD with xenos on planet a middle ground.

[davidofmk771]

Yeah see that's why this major minor stuff is dumb. One of the big aspects of xenos is all it takes is one to completely overrun you. They're smart hunters when they're low in number, and will methodologically pick off hosts to bring their hive up to a fighting level.

The unfortunate truth is that xenos are second only to the Yautja in the game's world. Humans are woefully unequipped to deal with the tactics used by xenos (propensity towards dense habitations, sentimentality, and cowardliness), and one little victory wouldn't have many far reaching effects beyond further enabling W-Y to study and eventually use genetic modification to make xenos even WORSE as humans are like to do.

The ultimate lesson here is that in the dark corporate future of 2186, nobody wins.

[Renomaki]

Honestly, in my case, sometimes the best [personal] victories are the games where marines (or xenos) put up a heavy fight and go past the 2 hour mark.

Sure, getting a total victory is nice and all, but winning as a marine is often not all that easy (provided the xenos are not dumb, anyways). However, depending on how hard marines fought to HOLD the planet, you can at least feel good knowing that you fought tooth and nail for the colony, rather than pussy out and just let them win.

It is why when I go CO, I order my marines to hold as hard as they can rather than give up the moment the going gets tough. If I could just hold the colony till 14:00, that alone is an accomplishment for me, even if we lose. People might hate me for it, but that is just how I like to play.

[DriedMilk]

Marine Major: All Xenos die

Marine Minor: SD engages

Xeno Major: All marines die

Xeno Minor: Xenos survive with no Queen for 20 minutes.

[ComradeCorbyn]

And I consider SD with xenos on planet a middle ground.

Honestly, the Marines failed their mission if that happened. However, the purpose of the game is to survive, in my opinion. I'd consider that a marine minor.

[xXen0zS1ay3rXx]

I kind of consider the end of screen major victory for marines screen as a victory, but since I always see it I've been using my frag count as a range.

10-20 kills, minor victory 21-40 victory, 40+ major.

[Bronimin]

The greentext for which side has won is gone, but the end round music is still different for each victory type.

[Lyiat]

I would never consider any sort of SD a marine victory. If the marines have to use the SD then they have absolutely failed every objective. Their ship is gone, all their comrades are dead, and they can't salvage the situation in any way. Marines who managed to evac in that situation get a personal victory, but the USMC as a whole lost.

[Philby0]

I would never consider any sort of SD a marine victory. If the marines have to use the SD then they have absolutely failed every objective. Their ship is gone, all their comrades are dead, and they can't salvage the situation in any way. Marines who managed to evac in that situation get a personal victory, but the USMC as a whole lost.

SD is marine sacrificing themselves in order to prevent xenos from spreading, that's why it's often considered marine minor.

[CSolaris]

The greentext for which side has won is gone, but the end round music is still different for each victory type.

Is there a way to sample each EoR music for each of the categories?

I’ve only really heard the colonial marines theme and then the more solemn intro to the theme, and I can’t really tell which is supposed to indicate which.

[spookydonut]

Per the actual code,
marine major = wiped out xenos
marine minor = wiped out xenos and evac finished (this is more from when endgame was evac not SD)
draw = SD detonates
xeno minor = no humans left alive on almayer but evac finished (this is more from when endgame was evac not SD)
xeno major = boarded almayer, all humans dead

[Gut_TC]

Predator Major: Hunt, Kill and Skin all type of xenos at least one per each type of xenos including Queen and Larva (?). Decapitate and collect at least one head of every each different squads, classes and ranks of combatants Marine (PFC, CPL, SGT, SSGT, etc...) Bill Carson is included as exclusive legendary big game hunt.