Should we abandon the lore?

[spookydonut]

It's not going out the window?

[NoahKirchner]

It's not going out the window?

I reread my post, I meant in terms of the OP but I didn't make it very clear

[Freedominspace]

I'd say we should start moving away from it. Just so we have more creative freedom. However, I understand that it'd be a lot of work.

[Build_R_]

I'd say we should start moving away from it. Just so we have more creative freedom. However, I understand that it'd be a lot of work.

The problem is that there's a lot of people wanting a major change but very little people actually willing to help with a change and even fewer still are qualified.

[solidfury7]

The THREE WORLD EMPIRE lore would be a lovely place to start on lore expansion.

[Maxim Inc]

I believe I already posted that

Huh....must have missed that.

[solidfury7]

This is a fucking retarded idea and you should be ashamed of yourself for even thinking of it. Keep it aliens-related or just kill the server.

Abandoning the lore doesn't mean ditching the concept you dolt.

It means shifting to an alternative yet similar universe. The aliens cm universe doesn't even have that much official lore tbh

[Maxim Inc]

The THREE WORLD EMPIRE lore would be a lovely place to start on lore expansion.

I support this 150%

[Azfrief]

Abandoning the lore doesn't mean ditching the concept you dolt.

It means shifting to an alternative yet similar universe. The aliens cm universe doesn't even have that much official lore tbh

Fuck no, that's completely retarded. I'm amazed the person who made the thread isn't some new person from summer and someone who's been here a long time. If you really want that to happen then get the fuck out and never come back. Make your own server rather than ruining an already good one.

[Azfrief]

The problem is that there's a lot of people wanting a major change but very little people actually willing to help with a change and even fewer still are qualified.

I HIGHLY doubt that there's that many people. And if there is they should really either all shut up and accept the circumstances or just leave.

[solidfury7]

Fuck no, that's completely retarded. I'm amazed the person who made the thread isn't some new person from summer and someone who's been here a long time. If you really want that to happen then get the fuck out and never come back. Make your own server rather than ruining an already good one.

You do realise our lore is already different from the aliens lore.

So you do realise how silly you sound.

[Azfrief]

You do realise our lore is already different from the aliens lore.

So you do realise how silly you sound.

I'm aware, but still, don't make it any different than it already is with the completely idiotic ideas OP and seemingly everyone who agrees with him in this thread has. You know what I mean. Just because we're already not that accurate doesn't mean to go ALL THE FUCKING WAY with shit like alternate dimensions and shit that that one server that also has space marines already does. Either accept things for what they are or just get out.

[Build_R_]

I HIGHLY doubt that there's that many people. And if there is they should really either all shut up and accept the circumstances or just leave.

As the thread replies show, a fair amount of people are encouraging major changes. However, I don't think they should shut up and accept what they're given, just because they have pie in the sky ideas doesn't mean the ideas not useful.

[Nickvr628]

Fuck no, that's completely retarded. I'm amazed the person who made the thread isn't some new person from summer and someone who's been here a long time. If you really want that to happen then get the fuck out and never come back. Make your own server rather than ruining an already good one.

Toxic much? I think major changes will be forced on us whether we like it or not. We are not going full corporate mercenaries, just shifting to a similar universe with similar aspects, just none of the copywrited stuff. Besides, CM is already a mix of lores and we break a decent amount of it already.

Also I doubt that, besides the aesthetics, people care about the lore all that much. Marines want to shoot scary aliens in a trashed colony in a medRP military environment. Renaming WY, a few of the weapons, and changing the look of a few sprites, will minimally effect gameplay and gives us the opportunity to explore new ideas without being bogged down with existing lore restrictions.

[Azfrief]

Toxic much? I think major changes will be forced on us whether we like it or not. We are not going full corporate mercenaries, just shifting to a similar universe with similar aspects, just none of the copywrited stuff. Besides, CM is already a mix of lores and we break a decent amount of it already.

Also I doubt that, besides the aesthetics, people care about the lore all that much. Marines want to shoot scary aliens in a trashed colony in a medRP military environment. Renaming WY, a few of the weapons, and changing the look of a few sprites, will minimally effect gameplay and gives us the opportunity to explore new ideas without being bogged down with existing lore restrictions.

>How to make a server lose most of it's population in one major change.txt
People are here for ALIENS and/or because the gameplay's good. Nothing more. Nothing less. Also, the community.

[Azfrief]

As the thread replies show, a fair amount of people are encouraging major changes. However, I don't think they should shut up and accept what they're given, just because they have pie in the sky ideas doesn't mean the ideas not useful.

Then I can only hope that the admins are smart enough to never listen to you brain dead fools on this.

[GenericUsername]

You seem a little mad there fella, you should remember that people are free to express their opinions about the server, and yelling and cussing at them makes no sense If you want to criticise their ideas.

[Azfrief]

You seem a little mad there fella, you should remember that people are free to express their opinions about the server, and yelling and cussing at them makes no sense If you want to criticise their ideas.

Oh no no. I'm not that mad at all. I just swear a lot.

[Renomaki]

One thing everyone should remember here is that we are not just dealin with FOX anymore.

Guess who owns ALIENS?

DISNEY

And if there is one thing Disney likes, it is asserting their dominance, not unlike Nintendo who shuts down fan projects the moment they catch a whiff of them.

Changes are bound to happen, but I like to view that as a good thing, because it could provide us with a great deal of fresh (kinda) content. That, and as mentioned before, it would allow us to create and expand our own lore, rather than having to stick to a rather incomplete ALIENS wiki.

... Well shit, what we gonna do with Predators?

[Azfrief]

One thing everyone should remember here is that we are not just dealin with FOX anymore.

Guess who owns ALIENS?

DISNEY

And if there is one thing Disney likes, it is asserting their dominance, not unlike Nintendo who shuts down fan projects the moment they catch a whiff of them.

Changes are bound to happen, but I like to view that as a good thing, because it could provide us with a great deal of fresh (kinda) content. That, and as mentioned before, it would allow us to create and expand our own lore, rather than having to stick to a rather incomplete ALIENS wiki.

... Well shit, what we gonna do with Predators?

>Using the wiki.
Well now we know where you got your terrible fucking idea from.
And nothing. We're not doing anything to predators since there isn't going to be a change, ever, for any reason.
I should specify: My previous post about me not being mad was a joke.

[Renomaki]

>Using the wiki.
Well now we know where you got your terrible fucking idea from.
And nothing. We're not doing anything to predators since there isn't going to be a change, ever, for any reason.

I wasn't gonna say it... But I'm gonna say it.

OW THE EDGE

But in all seriousness, you gotta accept that change is going to happen, no matter what. If you don't like that, then enjoy it while you can, because I know it is going to change, just like how the old Alien sprites changed many times over. Still miss the classic, non-copyright infringing designs, I admit (even if they were really MS painty).

I made this very topic because I realized that the owners of ALIENS are no doubt going to let this server fly without some serious revisions, but then I realized that this could go beyond a few simple texture updates, but an entire overhaul that changes a lot of things, big or small, paving the way for a more community created lore than a restrictive existing lore that in itself is rather flawed and/or stupid when you think about it.

[Azfrief]

I wasn't gonna say it... But I'm gonna say it.

OW THE EDGE

But in all seriousness, you gotta accept that change is going to happen, no matter what. If you don't like that, then enjoy it while you can, because I know it is going to change, just like how the old Alien sprites changed many times over. Still miss the classic, non-copyright infringing designs, I admit (even if they were really MS painty).

I made this very topic because I realized that the owners of ALIENS are no doubt going to let this server fly without some serious revisions, but then I realized that this could go beyond a few simple texture updates, but an entire overhaul that changes a lot of things, big or small, paving the way for a more community created lore than a restrictive existing lore that in itself is rather flawed and/or stupid when you think about it.

It's actually funny that you think they would even care about this.

And an overhaul does nothing but bad things, gotcha.

[Nickvr628]

You must either be very young or very ignorant if you think Disney is going to let us have a server with 100+ people on almost 24/7, using their new IP they just bought from Fox. They have already made us change the name, the logo, and Weyland Yutani, you think they are stopping there?

We should use this forced change for the better.

[Azfrief]

They did none of that though? I'm just going to assume you're just a bullshitting liar who wants to change things to how he sees them.
Just give up man.

[TrollanKojima]

I can't lie. I started playing here BECAUSE I'm a huge Alien/Predator fan. If this were just a combat-based SS13 server, I'd have been almost entirely disinclined to even touch it. To me, this was the only thing that made up for the lack of a good MP AvP game since AvP2. That being said, I'd miss the fun and camaraderie I've had with you guys over the years if I left. So it's a bit of a double-edged sword for me: Either I bail when we drop the Aliens lore/setting/sprites, or I stick around for a game that I derived 50% of my enjoyment from the setting, and the other 50% from the players.