Queen Mass Gibbing

[Madventurer]

The topic.
Apparently, the Queen is allowed to mass-gib the bodies of the dead regardless of the threat they posed. Just systematically head to the front and gib all marine corpses she comes upon.

IMO this shouldn't be allowed as plain power/metagaming, since it's pretty hard to justify it without anything but preventing defibs and killing that pesky B18, the latter of which is perfectly legitimate after the 50th slash does nothing.

But, opinions?

[misto]

if the queen has enough spare time to waste gibbing fuckers one by one instead of doing more productive things like fighting/screeching or making eggs+generating evo points then the marines are probably already losing hard, or they will use this lull to make a comeback and make her regret this wasteful action as she is punished for her hubris

[DefinitelyAlone0309]

Really don't care. You will make sure someone is dead too if they have a SADAR and they have used it to kill your boilers.

Queen can gib all she wants is my opinion.

[Mizari]

I'm sorry but yeah Queens gibbing whoever she wants is entirely the players choice....They cant drag dead bodies and if they see you dragging bodies away to revive then I think it's entirely fair game.

[kastion]

The amount of times I have beat a sadar or spec half to death and dragged them way away from battle to kill them only to see them later in the round running around is ridiculous. Until told otherwise I will gib every sadar and b18 i can get my claws on as queen.

[BOw and Arrow]

queen gib everyone,like almost every marine on a round i play yesterday

[NethIafins]

yeah

Gibbing is a pretty good tradeoff between risking queens ass and denying few revives or killing someone that has a powerful armor

[MattAtlas]

Soon we're not gonna have any permakill methods and we're gonna have to fight the same guy 20 times in a row.

So what happens? Drones start hugging people, they get hugged, dragged off and killed, then dragged off further.

This is nerfed too, so people start using paincrit to drag others off and slash em... and so on.



I really dont understand why people complain about queen gib. It's ONE xeno, and if your body is RIGHT NEXT TO THE QUEEN and she has enough time to gib you, do you SERIOUSLY think you would have ever been defibbed?

[Madventurer]

Soon we're not gonna have any permakill methods and we're gonna have to fight the same guy 20 times in a row.

So what happens? Drones start hugging people, they get hugged, dragged off and killed, then dragged off further.

This is nerfed too, so people start using paincrit to drag others off and slash em... and so on.



I really dont understand why people complain about queen gib. It's ONE xeno, and if your body is RIGHT NEXT TO THE QUEEN and she has enough time to gib you, do you SERIOUSLY think you would have ever been defibbed?

I can understand this point of view, whatwith marines being able to revive amazingly wrecked corpses, but so far all of the points raised for gibbing have been from gameplay perspective.
Discussion about the meta part of that is what I was hoping for, as while CM is a game, it's a role-playing game among other things.

For potential changes? Have gibbing have a cooldown in the 15-30 second range to prevent fast removal of entire dead squads, permanently.

[MattAtlas]

I can understand this point of view, whatwith marines being able to revive amazingly wrecked corpses, but so far all of the points raised for gibbing have been from gameplay perspective.
Discussion about the meta part of that is what I was hoping for, as while CM is a game, it's a role-playing game among other things.

For potential changes? Have gibbing have a cooldown in the 15-30 second range to prevent fast removal of entire dead squads, permanently.

It's not fast by any means even right now, it takes about 5 to 10 seconds to gib a single corpse. If nobody pushed during that, then I'm afraid you weren't going to be revivable anymore bud.

[CABAL]

If she gibs any nearest marine, then it's fair. At some point it's advantage for marines, becouse she wastes time and plasma to remove injured who medics would waste time to revive. If she chooses to gib marine based on his name and/or rank and not on the weaponry, then it's meta. I don't care that this is CO, or XO, or Avalanche, or any other robusto, if they only had a pulse rifle, then gibbing only them is clearly knowledge that xeno character didn't have = Definition of Metagaming. Gib all, or specs/smartgunners, or none. Rest does not matter and is fair.

Bwoink Queens for "Cherry Marine Picking/Gibbing" few times and they will learn not to meta.

[ThesoldierLLJK]

She has the mechanic, she can use it.
Besides if she has the time to go around gibbing everyone, that means something has gone wrong in the operation.

[adrenalinetooth]

[RobBrown4PM]

Completely an IC issue.

[Audi_Gzz]

I don't really see a issue here. Queen gibbing wastes plasma and it takes like 5 seconds or 8. As Matt said, if you got gibbed, did you really think you were gonna be revived? Unless the marines charge in and kill the queen as she's gibbing a corspe. 50/50 chance that the marines are gonna kill the queen or get wrecked to shit by xenos around the queen.

[Griffith78]

I like gibbing playing that are still alive, that way they can watch it happen lol

[RobBrown4PM]

I like gibbing playing that are still alive, that way they can watch it happen lol

This.

It's so satisfying

[KittyHawkpilot019]

But, opinions?

Queen should only be able to gib perma-dead, because quickly killing a human and then gibbing them is a scummy thing to do (IMO) because they're perma-dead. They've removed gibbing on synthetics, so they should remove gibbing on revive-able. I'm most likely going to gitlab it if it isn't there already.

[Garrison]

Soon we're not gonna have any permakill methods and we're gonna have to fight the same guy 20 times in a row.

So what happens? Drones start hugging people, they get hugged, dragged off and killed, then dragged off further.

This is nerfed too, so people start using paincrit to drag others off and slash em... and so on.



I really dont understand why people complain about queen gib. It's ONE xeno, and if your body is RIGHT NEXT TO THE QUEEN and she has enough time to gib you, do you SERIOUSLY think you would have ever been defibbed?

I agree with this. In any "common" instance I can think of. You would already be brain dead or unable to be saved in time. In the few rare exceptions, the Queen or her hive would be wounded or even killed cause she was too busy gibbing to shatter a critical marine engagement with her screech.

[TheMaskedMan2]

Defibbing is extremely too reliable at the moment in my opinion and the Queen taking the time to gib is entirely her own decision.

[AcuteCircle]

If queen has time to gib you, you probably weren't going to be saved in the first place. Imo gibbing all specialists/medics is low tier shittery but it's a mechanic that's given to Queens so they can utilize it however they want.

[Karmac]

Defibbing is extremely too reliable at the moment in my opinion and the Queen taking the time to gib is entirely her own decision.

this is heavily debatable

medics being attacked while defibbing or dragging bodies to safety is so common and such a reliable way to stop them getting it done it's not even funny

but yeah gibbing is balanced in its own ways so I don't really care about it

[GriffinG]

I was gibbed alive once as PO, That was the first time I knew that the queen was able to do that. I was surprised at that but IMO it takes the queen a while to gib and it's the queens decision if she does it or not.

[lurkermain]

this is heavily debatable

medics being attacked while defibbing or dragging bodies to safety is so common and such a reliable way to stop them getting it done it's not even funny

but yeah gibbing is balanced in its own ways so I don't really care about it

I mean.. that's how the game works.. if you attack someone they typically have to stop what they are doing and fight back, it is not unique to medics.
Just drag the body to a safe location.

[Karmac]

my point is people complaining about defibbing being 'too reliable' is dumb and stupid

not that it's unfair and far too common that medics get disrupted from their duty